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KOS Klaim-35% of the Iraqi population is either dead, maimed or a refugee
KOS | 9-26-07 | ME

Posted on 09/26/2007 7:51:44 AM PDT by tcrlaf

269 reply's, most bashing America and the Administration, and not a SINGLE LINK to a Reliable FACT that backs up these numbers...

Welcome to the world of LEFTIST PROPOGANDA

MEANWHILE, the documented and PROVABLE deaths are:

Documented civilian deaths from violence 73,713 – 80,333 http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/

Can someone explain to me why fallacies like this are allowed, and even REINFORCED by so many on the left?

A Couple of KOS'rs attemted to procvide the FACTS, but were largely ignored.....

The postings on this do provide a glimpse into the insane lunatics that have taken control of the Democratic Party.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: insane; kos; kosisahomo; kossuckers; moonbat; propoganda
A few selected comments from the replys to these "Facts".

"The Americans are the "bad guys" and prove it daily with their aggessive, selfish actions in the rest of the world. "

"Are we a civilized Nation if we consent to governed by serial killers?" (Are the Clinton's in charge again??!!)

"Impeachment is not an option ........It is a duty"

I ESPECIALLY liked this response!

"You know what? I didn't even read this diary. Just reading the title brings tears to my eyes, literally. I am reading an article in Foreign Affairs about how the Chinese are busting the whole world's environment by snuffing out their own arable land, potable water, and breathable air.

I really don't know how much more I can handle. Is that why I drink a scotch or two now almost every night? I used to not even care for it, choosing fine wines instead. Is it my environment, my inner rage that must be sedated?"

And THEN we have this doozy!

"You know there are some who are already predicting that Bush will attack Iran then declare a federal state of emergency, thereby canceling the '08 elections, with insane-Bush remaining in office, or handing off to other Republicans in line.

I wish I had your optimism that insane-Bush will be removed from office, but reality to date says not enough people care to remove the madman.

How bad must it get before we impeach the worst president and VP in the history of the USA???????"

1 posted on 09/26/2007 7:51:48 AM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf
Heaven forbid if the Left is going to let a few facts get in the way of good propaganda...


2 posted on 09/26/2007 7:55:09 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: tcrlaf
You can't tell the difference between terrorist propaganda from an American liberal propaganda!

They are both enemies of America!

3 posted on 09/26/2007 7:56:04 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: tcrlaf

“Sob, sob!. And leace Britney alone! Cry. Cry!”


4 posted on 09/26/2007 7:57:34 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: tcrlaf
Kos Kids are not Americans.

Ignore them.

5 posted on 09/26/2007 7:58:02 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: tcrlaf

Who cares what the Kossuckers have to say about anything!


6 posted on 09/26/2007 7:58:33 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“Leace? Leace? Where’s my coffee?


7 posted on 09/26/2007 7:58:50 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: tcrlaf
35% is approximately 9,000,000 people - - the Kos people are just insane.
8 posted on 09/26/2007 7:59:16 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have .chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: tcrlaf

What do you expect from people who are born with only two neurons and both neurons are waving goodbye to the other!


9 posted on 09/26/2007 7:59:45 AM PDT by avacado
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To: All

People, if all you do is wave your hands in the air and snicker or express outrage, you are as useless as they are.

The key to this is TIE IT TO HILLARY. It’s about winning. It’s not about anything else. A Hillary victory VINDICATES THESE WACKOS.

These people must always be referred to as sharing Hillary’s vision. They are Hillary’s base. They are Hillary’s campaign supporters. Always, no exceptions, Always refer to Kos and DU with Hillary’s name attached.


10 posted on 09/26/2007 8:02:30 AM PDT by Owen
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To: tcrlaf

50-60% will be the new number by the end of the week.


11 posted on 09/26/2007 8:02:31 AM PDT by crazyhorse691 (The faithful will keep their heads down, their powder dry and hammer at the enemies flanks.)
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To: Beckwith
100% of Kos posters are brain dead.
12 posted on 09/26/2007 8:03:10 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: Owen

Expose the left

that’s what will defeat them.

Hillary, and all democrats, need to be confronted publicly with statements like these and asked if they support these groups.


13 posted on 09/26/2007 8:04:51 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: tcrlaf

More Krazy Kos Kookiness from the 'CHIMPYBUSHITLER!!!!' screech choir.

14 posted on 09/26/2007 8:11:12 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Fight the illegal Mexican colonizers & imperialist conquistadors! Long live the resistance!)
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To: tcrlaf

Simply do the math.

4.5 years is 1642 days.

35% of Iraqis would be 8,750,000

8,750,000/1642 would be 532 Iraqis killed every day for the last 4.5 years.

OBVIOUSLY that is a lie.


15 posted on 09/26/2007 8:22:51 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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To: Owen

“A Hillary victory VINDICATES THESE WACKOS.”

No, it does not. Only truth will vindicate them and they are so far from they can’t even begin to recognize it.

“They are Hillary’s base.”

Yep, and no greater gift to the Republican Party. In their ignorance, they have no idea they are handing us an election.


16 posted on 09/26/2007 8:27:14 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: tcrlaf
"You know there are some who are already predicting that Bush will attack Iran then declare a federal state of emergency, thereby canceling the '08 elections, with insane-Bush remaining in office, or handing off to other Republicans in line.

Well there were posters on THIS SITE claiming that Clinton was going to pull the same kind if thing back in 2000
17 posted on 09/26/2007 8:45:18 AM PDT by uncbob (m first)
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To: MNJohnnie
35% of Iraqis would be 8,750,000

8,750,000/1642 would be 532 Iraqis killed every day for the last 4.5 years

The article didn't state 35% were killed. The article said 35% were "dead, maimed or refugees". The number of refugees alone could be more than 4 million.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/UNHCR/3600c843dbc8bc1408ddae9d73dd8cf2.htm

I have not seen numbers for the Iraqis maimed but it is clear that a significant number of Iraqis are maimed for each one that dies in terrorist attacks.

Whether the 35% is correct is impossible to know accurately, but the number could be close to this range.

18 posted on 09/26/2007 9:04:53 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: tcrlaf
Here's the beginning of the Presidential oath of office:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;

Shouldn't any president who takes this oath seriously start defending the Constitution against the domestic enemies we see increasingly plainly?

19 posted on 09/26/2007 9:11:16 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Prokopton
Whether the 35% is correct is impossible to know accurately, but the number could be close to this range

My math was off. It would be 5328 Iraqi casualties EVERY day of the Iraq war.

Now, Let assume your absurd number 4 million of refugees is accurate. A number NO reliable source reports. The HIGHEST number is 2.2 million and even that is absurd since NO ONE can find these 2.2 million. Think 2.2 million refuges can just disappear? Where are they?

So 8,750,000 - 4,000,000 refugees = 4,750,00 /1642 = 2892

2892 killed or maimed Iraqis EVERY day of the Iraq war It would require a daily Iraqi civilian casualty rate significantly higher then the daily casualty rate of US forces in all it's 20th century wars combined to reach that figure.

Think the US "News" media would of ignored that sort of civilian body count in Iraq?

IT is a complete made up number with NO possible base in factual reality.

20 posted on 09/26/2007 9:28:54 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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To: Prokopton
Correction.

Formula should be

So 8,750,000 - 4,000,000 refugees = 4,750,000 /1642 = 2892

21 posted on 09/26/2007 9:31:42 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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To: tcrlaf
Correction. My math was off in the original post

Simply do the math.

4.5 years is 1642 days.

35% of Iraqis would be 8,750,000

8,750,000/1642 would be 5328 Iraqis killed, maimed or made a refugee EVERY day for the last 4.5 years. OBVIOUSLY that is a lie.

22 posted on 09/26/2007 9:34:12 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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To: darkwing104

They are appealing to ignorant if not outright stupid young people and Geriatric Hippie Dopers. The emotionalism and madness is very much a strategy.. Sort of like inciting panic in a crowd. The people then rush towards what ever is held out as “Safety”..

If you notice in the Homosexual Movement their overt activities also use this technique.

The Human Waste that runs these operations is not stupid in the least...

Their technique is very effective at driving mindless mobs.

W


23 posted on 09/26/2007 9:38:16 AM PDT by WLR (Secure our Schools with Armed Staff on Campus. Build the Fence, Nuke Iran)
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To: Prokopton
Guess you missed this disclaimer Reuters put on your “4.2 million Iraqi refugees s“source””

Reuters and AlertNet are not responsible for the content of this article or for any external Internet sites. The views expressed are the author’s alone.

Seems not even Reuters was willing to buy this absurd number

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/UNHCR/3600c843dbc8bc1408ddae9d73dd8cf2.htm

So even using this fraud of a number for refugees the number remains absurdly impossible

8,750,000 - 4,200,000 refugees = 4,550,000 Iraqis killed and maimed /1642 days of the war = 2,771 Iraqis killed and wounded EVER day of the war.

PURE BS without even the possibility of a being with in a million miles of the truth.

24 posted on 09/26/2007 9:41:43 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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To: tcrlaf

“I really don’t know how much more I can handle. Is that why I drink a scotch or two now almost every night? I used to not even care for it, choosing fine wines instead. Is it my environment, my inner rage that must be sedated?” “

Bahhahaha...this is so f’n funny...Oh, this poor misguided misfit. What an elitist snob.


25 posted on 09/26/2007 9:54:22 AM PDT by never4get ("Each one hopes that if it feeds the crocodile enough, the crocodile will eat him last",)
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To: tcrlaf
Nice find tc.

Ping!

26 posted on 09/26/2007 10:15:31 AM PDT by grandpa jones (Responding To The Epic Threat)
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To: MNJohnnie

Hey, MNJ, it is only because you are assuming your base figure is accurate. If we instead assume that the entire population of Iraq was 250,000, why then the Kossack figures come out fine!

Aren’t stats fun!


27 posted on 09/26/2007 10:49:16 AM PDT by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: LexBaird

IRAQ

Population:
26,783,383 (July 2006 est.)

http://www.nationbynation.com/Iraq/Population.html

So revising the figures yet again.

26,783,383 x .35 equals 9,374,184 - 4,200,000 imaginary refugees =5,174,184 Iraqis killed or maimed /1642 days of the war = 3,151 Iraqis killed or maimed EVERY day of the war.


28 posted on 09/26/2007 11:01:40 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
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To: MNJohnnie
Reminds me of an anti-gun stat once used that said something along the lines of “Children’s deaths by firearms are expected to double every year for the foreseeable future.” Of course, anyone familiar with the “chessboard” problem realizes that if you doubled the amount every year, you would have killed the entire population of the earth in about 12 years.
29 posted on 09/26/2007 11:30:08 AM PDT by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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