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Can She Reach Religious Voters? (Hillary "most religious Democrat since Jimmy Carter")
Washington Post ^ | 9-26-07 | Michael Gerson

Posted on 09/26/2007 9:00:28 AM PDT by yankeesdoodle

Clinton is neither secular nor awkward about her faith. She cites her Methodist upbringing as a formative experience, with its emphasis on "preaching and practicing the social gospel." As a teenager in 1962, she heard and met the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. in Chicago -- what would have been a profound experience for a spiritually alert youth -- and was later politically radicalized by his assassination. The likely Democratic nominee participates regularly in small-group Bible studies and is familiar with the works of Reinhold Niebuhr, Paul Tillich and Dietrich Bonhoeffer -- the theological heroes of mainline Protestantism (and of some stray Evangelicals like myself).

In a nation obsessed by the influence of religious conservatives, it is easy to forget that liberal Protestants were once the dominant cultural influence in America. Beginning in the early 20th century, the social gospel advanced swiftly through most American denominations. Progressive presidents such as Woodrow Wilson spoke in the cadences of this movement: "Christianity was just as much intended to save society as to save the individual, and there is a sense in which it is more important that it should save society."

This high-minded theological liberalism had many successes

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2 Kings 9:30 When Jezebel learned that Jehu had arrived in Jezreel, she shadowed her eyes, adorned her hair, and looked down from her window. 31 As Jehu came through the gate, she cried out, "Is all well, Zimri, murderer of your master?" 32 Jehu looked up to the window and shouted, "Who is on my side? Anyone?" At this, two or three eunuchs looked down toward him. 33 "Throw her down," he ordered. They threw her down, and some of her blood spurted against the wall and against the horses. Jehu rode in over her body
1 posted on 09/26/2007 9:00:31 AM PDT by yankeesdoodle
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To: yankeesdoodle

Yaaawn Kerry was a Alter Boy when he was a kid too. Doesn’t mean he believes in God now. No Christian is going to believe this other than obscene pandering.

Pray for W and Our Troops


2 posted on 09/26/2007 9:02:56 AM PDT by bray (Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
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To: yankeesdoodle

Hitlery’s “religion” is The Alinsky Method”.


3 posted on 09/26/2007 9:04:04 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (Ft. Lauderdale, Florida)
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To: yankeesdoodle

That headline needs a barf alert.


4 posted on 09/26/2007 9:04:08 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: yankeesdoodle

Hillary? Religion? She worships Marx and Power!


5 posted on 09/26/2007 9:04:09 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: yankeesdoodle

Most religious since Jimmy Carter?
Is that like being “the most kind mass-murderer since Hitler”?


6 posted on 09/26/2007 9:05:19 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (If You Support America - Thank a Soldier; If You Support Al-Qaeda - Thank a Democrat!)
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To: yankeesdoodle

Yeah, I’m surprised she doesn’t refer to it as her “Faith Tradition as a Child” like Algore does.


8 posted on 09/26/2007 9:06:26 AM PDT by pianomikey (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. -Reagan)
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To: yankeesdoodle

What devil worship?


9 posted on 09/26/2007 9:07:01 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: yankeesdoodle

Yes please, keep linking Carter and Clinton - two phonies - together.


10 posted on 09/26/2007 9:08:19 AM PDT by ikka
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To: JackRyanCIA

Hillary is more like a secular humanist.Her”Christianity”is a ploy to push her socialist agenda under the auspices of “doing God’s work”.


11 posted on 09/26/2007 9:08:51 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: yankeesdoodle

Does she who wrote “It takes a village” realize the first time Jesus preached in his home town the town tried to throw him over a cliff? Hillary would have had to join the villagers in trying to destroy the itinerate rabbi.


12 posted on 09/26/2007 9:09:29 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: yankeesdoodle

It is entirely possible that Hillary is the most religious Democrat since Carter ...

But, taken from a pool of Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and John Kerry ... that’s a bit like being the most ethical man at a Bar Association meeting (I am a lawyer ... I’m allowed to make lawyer jokes).

H


13 posted on 09/26/2007 9:09:55 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor (How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!)
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To: yankeesdoodle

The devil is her god, Marx is her prophet, Communism is her faith.


14 posted on 09/26/2007 9:09:55 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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To: yankeesdoodle

“Christianity was just as much intended to save society as to save the individual, and there is a sense in which it is more important that it should save society.”

Unscriptural liberal rubbish. Jesus said, “What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?” (Matthew 16:26). The Bible has numerous verses that teach that salvation of one’s soul is the top priority of God. Love God first. Only then can one love one’s neighbor.


15 posted on 09/26/2007 9:10:17 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: yankeesdoodle

The church she went to had a very liberal, liberation theology type youth pastor. Once he had the kids, he took them around to all the social libs that came to Chicago, in the name of religion, he radicalized them.

The church elders, when they figured out what he was doing, let him go. He “infiltrated” - and he still doesn’t see what he did wrong. In the meantime, he created a “Hillary”, who thinks the Good News of Jesus Christ is a “social gospel”.


16 posted on 09/26/2007 9:10:44 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: yankeesdoodle

...what religion?


17 posted on 09/26/2007 9:10:53 AM PDT by madison10
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To: yankeesdoodle
She has her ways.


18 posted on 09/26/2007 9:11:01 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: yankeesdoodle

You mean, she demands to be treated as a deity.


19 posted on 09/26/2007 9:11:05 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: JackRyanCIA

Hillary will lie and pander to anyone that will support her. If she became President of this great nation of ours, she will become our dictator in short order. Man or woman, any person like this does not even deserve to be able to run for the office of President. Thank God for the Electoral College.


20 posted on 09/26/2007 9:11:20 AM PDT by RC2
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To: yankeesdoodle
Most malicious since Jimmy Carter?

Fixed it.

21 posted on 09/26/2007 9:13:10 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: yankeesdoodle

Being a Methodist, and citing those theologians, will in no way commend her to Evangelicals. Probably will work against her, in fact.


22 posted on 09/26/2007 9:16:38 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: yankeesdoodle

I think you can identify most Christians by how they treat those they have power over. I can’t help but remember the employees of the White House Travel Office who had their lives destroyed.


23 posted on 09/26/2007 9:18:59 AM PDT by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: kittymyrib

yes exactly. The Bible says our weapons are spiritual and not carnal, so we can leave the bulk of politics to the unsaved. What are we supposed to do— convince Ted Kennedy of his wrongs? Good luck.


24 posted on 09/26/2007 9:19:15 AM PDT by yankeesdoodle
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To: yankeesdoodle

hildebeast IS THE DAUGHTER OF satan... hildebeast WORSHIPS HER FATHER satan... SHE HATES GOD AND ALL THAT IS GOOD!

LLS


26 posted on 09/26/2007 9:21:08 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: RC2
"....Thank God for the Electoral College....."

Methinks the skank knows what she is up against.

Remember her calls for the abolition of the Electoral College right after Kerry's defeat?

She knows.....

27 posted on 09/26/2007 9:22:53 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: yankeesdoodle

Gee, I guess Rosie ‘Christians are more Dangerous’ O’Donell and the ‘D list’ chick won’t be voting for Hillary, eh?

Just a thought....


28 posted on 09/26/2007 9:22:54 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: yankeesdoodle
As a teenager in 1962, she heard and met the Rev. Martin Luther King
Jr. in Chicago -- what would have been a profound experience
for a spiritually alert youth --
and was later politically radicalized by his assassination.


At least there's some truth in this article.
And she's still a political radical.
A Marxist pretending to be a Democrat pretending to be a sane person
pretending to be a patriot from Real America.

As fake as a $3 bill.
29 posted on 09/26/2007 9:23:02 AM PDT by VOA
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Mrs. Clinton is "religious" alright, the apostle Paule accurately describes her in 2 Timothy:1-9 (Emphasis mine)

But realize this, that in the LAST DAYS difficult times will come.

For men will be LOVERS OF SELF, lovers of money, BOASTFUL, ARROGANT, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, UNHOLY,

unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, HATERS OF GOOD,

TREACHEROUS, reckless, CONCEITED, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,

holding to a form of godliness HOLDING TO A FORM OF gODLINESS, ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE DENIED ITS POWER; AVOID SUCH MEN AS THESE.

For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses,

ALWAYS LEARNING AND NEVER ABLE TO COME TO THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH.

JUST AS Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth SO THESE MEN ALSO OPPOSE THE TRUTH, MEN OF DEPRAVED MIND, REJECTED IN REGARD TO THE FAITH.

But they will not make further progress; for THEIR FOLLY WILL BE OBVIOUS TO ALL, just as Jannes’ and Jambres’ folly was also.

Those who name the name of Christ, have an admonition from God to AVOID her and to NOT vote for or support her.

30 posted on 09/26/2007 9:24:19 AM PDT by Jmouse007
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Sounds like Hillary's all female staff gathered up and provided Hillary with all the buzz-words that they THINK will fake out enough religious people to allow her to get elected

I don't think it's going to work.

31 posted on 09/26/2007 9:24:30 AM PDT by Col Freeper
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To: yankeesdoodle

Social Gospel? I’ve never heard of that.


32 posted on 09/26/2007 9:26:39 AM PDT by shekkian
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33 posted on 09/26/2007 9:27:31 AM PDT by bmwcyle (BOMB, BOMB, BOMB,.......BOMB, BOMB IRAN)
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To: yankeesdoodle
Fixed it for her: She cites her Communist upbringing as a formative experience, with its emphasis on socialism
34 posted on 09/26/2007 9:29:00 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.)
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To: yankeesdoodle

The Left is two-faced in regards to religious involvement in public policy. When the Religious Right moves to ban partial birth abortion and gay marriage, “Separation of Chruch & State” is shouted.

However, when liberal churches move to combat global warming and provide Govt healthcare for all, its all dandy to the Left.


35 posted on 09/26/2007 9:29:41 AM PDT by Kuksool
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To: yankeesdoodle

I say three cheers for Jehu!

Who will reprise the role of Jehu in 2008?

Whoever does, they’ll ultimately end up a hero.


36 posted on 09/26/2007 9:29:51 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: yankeesdoodle

The operative word here is religious! Many that will never darken the gates of Heaven are religious, but being a spiritual giant is another matter all together.


37 posted on 09/26/2007 9:29:55 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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As a teenager in 1962, she heard and met the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. in Chicago -- what would have been a profound experience for a spiritually alert youth -- and was later politically radicalized by his assassination.

Tune in next week when we learn that Hillary is the re-incarnation of Harriet Beecher Stowe.

Someone have a BS meter handy?

The needle would be pegged on "man the lifeboats."

Wouldn't surprise me a bit if MLK was never in Chicago in 1962.

38 posted on 09/26/2007 9:29:57 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: yankeesdoodle

Ah, Methodist. That explains it.


39 posted on 09/26/2007 9:30:10 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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Liberals can't stand for anyone to judge them, even God!

Morals & Values are relative to Liberals, there are no finite right & wrong!

Liberals condemn & mock God, Jesus & those of faith to justify their own repugnant behaviors!

And Hillary is a Liberal!

40 posted on 09/26/2007 9:30:38 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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Well, there's religion and then there's religion...


41 posted on 09/26/2007 9:32:19 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (i'm so adjective i verb nouns...)
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42 posted on 09/26/2007 9:33:14 AM PDT by maggief
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Here’s some background on HClinton’s “faith”. Bob Woodward wrote a book years ago in which he details Hillary channeling Elanor Roosevelt and Ghandi. When the psychic tried to get her to channel Jesus Christ, Hillary refused.
She doesn’t believe in God at all.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1901496/posts

JUST ONE MORE CLINTON LIE.

43 posted on 09/26/2007 9:35:09 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Corin Stormhands

I read somewhere that she puts voodoo symbols on the White House Christmas tree


44 posted on 09/26/2007 9:38:02 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Post 43 & 44 suggest that hillary isn’t humanist/secularist at all, but some twisted pagan. Weird.


45 posted on 09/26/2007 9:41:12 AM PDT by pianomikey (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. -Reagan)
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To: mkjessup
we're going to need some eunichs....


46 posted on 09/26/2007 9:41:45 AM PDT by yankeesdoodle
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To: yankeesdoodle

Other people who were “not secular or awkward” about their faith: Bill Clinton (the famous rapist and abortionist), Jim Jones, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, Ayatollah Khomeini, Mohammed Atta, Nero, Diocletian, Henry VIII (adulterer, sadist, murderer), Elizabeth I (fornicator, murderer), L. Ron Hubbard, Anton LeVay, Jimmy Carter (abortionist)...


47 posted on 09/26/2007 9:41:47 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: yankeesdoodle

Since the lamestream media have decreed that those who perform abortions are now “abortion doctors,” I suggest that henceforth the word “abortionist” be applied to those who have traditionally been called “pro-abortion.” It’s simpler to write and pronounce, and it’s consistent with English usage regarding “isms” and their adherents: Marxism/Marxist, etc. Thus: Hillary is an abortionist, John Kerry is an abortionist, Ted Kennedy is an abortionist. And the question continues to divide the Catholic bishops of the U.S.: “May an abortionist receive Communion?”

If you vote for an abortionist, you are yourself an abortionist. Can a person be both a Catholic and an abortionist?


48 posted on 09/26/2007 9:45:57 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: pianomikey

If you analyse what she really believes in, you’ll see she is some twisted something, apologies to real pagans


49 posted on 09/26/2007 9:46:06 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.)
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To: yankeesdoodle

You can brush your teeth religiously. I’m sure Hillary is religiously pursuing her goal of becoming President.

religious definition
adj.
1. Having or showing belief in and reverence for God or a deity.
2. Of, concerned with, or teaching religion: a religious text.
3. Extremely scrupulous or conscientious: religious devotion to duty.


50 posted on 09/26/2007 10:16:52 AM PDT by Darnright
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