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Ancient Fishermen Lured Fish With Fire
Discovery ^ | 9-25-2007 | Jennifer Viegas

Posted on 09/26/2007 3:02:02 PM PDT by blam

Ancient Fishermen Lured Fish With Fire

Jennifer Viegas, Discovery News

Sept. 25, 2007 — Fishermen around areas mentioned in the New Testament worked the night shift, suggests fishing gear found in a 7th century shipwreck off the coast of Dor, Israel, west of Galilee, where Jesus is said to have preached.

The standout item among the found gear is a fire basket, the first evidence for "fire fishing" in the ancient eastern Mediterranean. Early images and writings indicate fires were lit in such baskets, which were suspended in giant lantern devices from the end of fishing boats.

Light emitted from the fire both attracted and illuminated fish, as well as other sea creatures, like octopus, which men then speared or captured in nets.

"Striking at night is classified as fire hunting," explained archaeologists Ehud Galili and Baruch Rosen, who excavated the shipwreck.

Their findings have been accepted for publication in The International Journal of Nautical Archaeology.

The researchers, from the Israel Antiquities Authority, added that the ancient Greek philosopher Plato (approximately 428-348 B.C.) wrote about the practice, which involved striking fish forcefully from above or below the water.

The fact that Plato should write about this method "reflects the importance of fire fishing in the ancient Mediterranean," according to the researchers, and reveals that fire fishing was practiced throughout the New Testament era and for several centuries thereafter. Aside from the iron fire basket, the shipwreck yielded rectangular lead fishing net sinkers used to weigh down cast nets. A five-pronged fishing spear made of iron was also in the wreck, as was a tubular, iron sounding lead.

Sounding leads are metal bobs used to measure water depth. Fishermen would fill the hollow portion with tallow, attach the bob to the end of a sounding line, and then fling them over the side of the boat. Both the length of the line and debris stuck to the tallow would indicate depth measurement.

The scientists think the sounding lead provides further evidence for fire fishing at night, since fishermen then charted their course using the stars, but would need the sounding lead "to locate a specific fishing ground."

"When returning home at night, or in conditions of low visibility, the sounding lead was an essential navigational aid," they explained.

A bronze steelyard weight in the shape of a woman was also found in the shipwreck. It was probably used to balance the heft of fish on a makeshift scale.

Multiple bronze coins, also found among the ship's remains, date the wreck to around 665 A.D., right after a Muslim conquest. It is therefore possible that the fishermen and their boat were causalities of the Byzantine-Muslim conflict at the time.

K.C. Hanson, editor and chief of Wipf and Stock Publishers, researched ancient fishing practices associated with the New Testament for a Biblical Theology Bulletin paper.

Hanson told Discovery News that fire fishing is not directly mentioned in the Bible, but the Bible does include information about the other artifacts and early fishing practices.

"Keep in mind that four of the original disciples were fishermen," he said. "And how would an individual such as Jesus connect and meet new people? By building networks based on fishing villages around the Sea of Galilee."

Hanson explained that early fishermen from the region, including the apostles, probably used most of their catch for garum, "which was a very important source of protein, particularly for the poor who couldn't afford whole, fresh fish."

He said garum consisted of fish pieces preserved in a salt brine or olive oil. It would have been more liquefied than today's canned tuna and other fish, and was used in soups, with grains and in other preparations.

Hanson added, "Writings from the time reveal that some people loved it, while others thought it tasted like dreadful glop."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ancient; crappie; fire; fisherman; godsgravesglyphs; lured

1 posted on 09/26/2007 3:02:06 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.


2 posted on 09/26/2007 3:03:27 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

people fish in this exact same way in Hawwaii today .
However they use battery powered lights , not fire...
same effect , the fish are drawn up to the light .


3 posted on 09/26/2007 3:04:49 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: blam

Things ain't changed much................

4 posted on 09/26/2007 3:05:51 PM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: LeoWindhorse

We do it in Florida, too.........Flounder gigging at night is a big thang!............


5 posted on 09/26/2007 3:06:35 PM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: blam

My Filipino friends still go out to sea at night with their lanterns and return at dawn. Flying over them at night west of Subic Bay gave the appearance of a small city.


6 posted on 09/26/2007 3:06:44 PM PDT by Broker (Mabuhay!)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Floating Flounder fish light........

7 posted on 09/26/2007 3:08:44 PM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: blam

Headlights.


8 posted on 09/26/2007 3:11:16 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: blam
Hanson added, "Writings from the time reveal that some people loved it, while others thought it tasted like dreadful glop."

Lutkefish?

9 posted on 09/26/2007 3:12:32 PM PDT by null and void (<---- Awake and filled with a terrible resolve...)
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To: TASMANIANRED

Locomotive lights on the dock get cha catching ‘em two at a time on spec rigs.


10 posted on 09/26/2007 3:13:40 PM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: blam
The real reason why the apostles stayed with Jesus: His halo made a great jacklight.

(ducking from the lightning).

11 posted on 09/26/2007 3:14:27 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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To: Red Badger

Almost sunk a boat a couple of times, with a Coleman lantern and a gig. The Flounder used to almost cover the bottom, when the tide and moon were right.


12 posted on 09/26/2007 3:19:35 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

They got LED models out now. A guy here at work just brought one in to show us just yesterday............Last a lot longer time on a 12v battery..........................


13 posted on 09/26/2007 3:26:26 PM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: blam
Galilee, where Jesus is said to have preached.

I think the historical record is pretty clear on that score: Jesus DID preach in Galilee. I know it upsets some folks to give any credence to the Bible, but in this case, failing to do so simply dilutes the integrity of the archeological report by making it a partisan statement.

It's okay to say "Jesus." The Inquisition won't get you.

14 posted on 09/26/2007 3:27:40 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: blam

Wish I were doing that right now....
15 posted on 09/26/2007 3:28:07 PM PDT by Thudd
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To: blam
They're just figuring out they fished at night?

Afterward Jesus appeared again to his disciples, by the Sea of Tiberias. It happened this way: Simon Peter, Thomas (called Didymus), Nathanael from Cana in Galilee, the sons of Zebedee, and two other disciples were together. "I'm going out to fish," Simon Peter told them, and they said, "We'll go with you." So they went out and got into the boat, but that night they caught nothing. Early in the morning, Jesus stood on the shore, but the disciples did not realize that it was Jesus. -- John 21:1-4 (NIV)

16 posted on 09/26/2007 3:28:31 PM PDT by inkling (exurbanleague.com)
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To: blam

Dynamite!


17 posted on 09/26/2007 3:32:39 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: blam
I wonder if Bill Dance had a show back then?

I'd like to see the blooper reel with Peter in it.

18 posted on 09/26/2007 3:34:46 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: battlegearboat

Lil fishies don’t like eating in the dark either.

If you saw the series “Blue Planet”..the earths greatest migration happens every night as the bottom dwellers move to the surface in the moonlight...

Was an awesome thing to behold, especially when all the photo luminous critters came up.


19 posted on 09/26/2007 3:53:51 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

“the fish are drawn up to the light.”

Just like us Christians!


20 posted on 09/26/2007 4:04:20 PM PDT by wizr (A step in Faith will set you free.)
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To: Red Badger

Here in WV we call ‘em “Croppy Lights.”


21 posted on 09/26/2007 4:16:47 PM PDT by Roccus (Fighting politicians IS the war on terror!)
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To: Red Badger

I used a little Tecumseh edger motor and an old Chrysler alternator and voltage regulator, all bolted to a chunk of 2X12. I sealed a ceramic lamp holder with a 100 watt, 12 volt bulb, inside a 1 gallon pickled pigsfeet jar, made a clamp to hang the jar on a piece of 1” conduit, and could light up the bottom almost 10 feet down. I had to use an old worn out car battery, to get the alternator kicked off.
It worked. Light sources above the water surface mostly just bounce back, and give you a headache.


22 posted on 09/26/2007 4:34:00 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: blam

It works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI-cIDv5kVM


23 posted on 09/26/2007 4:41:29 PM PDT by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.)
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To: null and void

Lutefisk...the piece of cod that surpasses all understanding...


24 posted on 09/26/2007 4:42:12 PM PDT by stefanbatory
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25 posted on 09/26/2007 5:28:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, September 12, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: null and void
He said garum consisted of fish pieces preserved in a salt brine or olive oil...Hanson added, "Writings from the time reveal that some people loved it, while others thought it tasted like dreadful glop."

Lutkefish?

Nah, lye is used in the preparation of Lutefisk, nothing so appetizing as salt brine or olive oil.

26 posted on 09/26/2007 5:35:35 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Crawdad

That’s an amazing video.


27 posted on 09/26/2007 5:52:57 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Crawdad

WOW! I had to call my ex-husband to get his e-mail, cuz he has *got* to see that video.


28 posted on 09/26/2007 6:43:07 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: blam

Ancient Fishermen Lured Fish With Fire, I lure them with "firetiger"

29 posted on 09/26/2007 6:48:35 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: blam

So what they’re saying is that Peter might have been a redneck?


30 posted on 09/26/2007 6:51:30 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich!)
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To: null and void

No it’s more like Vietnamese nuac mam (sp?). I’ve had it, probably won’t again.


31 posted on 09/26/2007 8:26:07 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Fight the illegal Mexican colonizers & imperialist conquistadors! Long live the resistance!)
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To: Thudd

Croppy fishing (it’s actually ‘Crappy’ not croppy, but they pronounce it ‘croppy’) in East TN is best at night with a lantern light and various doll flies and fake minnows. Lots of fun!


32 posted on 09/26/2007 8:32:49 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Defend life support for others in the womb.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

In the South and Midwest, too. Folks rig up car headlights in floating collars (styrofoam or similar), put them out over the side of the boat at night, and dunk minnows for white bass.


33 posted on 09/27/2007 12:22:18 PM PDT by Renfield (How come there aren't any football teams with pink uniforms?)
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To: blam

Lake Erie yellow perch & walleye bump! I need to get back out on the water.


34 posted on 09/27/2007 12:26:28 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch (Rush Limbaugh, the Winston Churchill of our time)
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