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Laguna Beach investors file suit against fundraiser Hsu
THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER ^ | September 26, 2007 | By CINDY CARCAMO

Posted on 09/26/2007 8:09:53 PM PDT by jdm

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It all began when Martin Waters, a Laguna Beach resident who works in the garment industry, met Hsu at an industry trade show in the 1980s, according to the civil lawsuit.

The two later met in 2004 after a mutual colleague had told Waters of several successful investments he had made with Hsu. Waters made an initial $10,000 investment with Hsu that same year, according to the lawsuit. He made the check out to Hsu's operating identity: Components, Ltd.

Later came the exclusive invitation-only meetings where Hsu introduced Waters to nationally-known political and business leaders who spoke highly of Hsu, including presidential contender Clinton, the lawsuit claims.

"Mr. Waters, who was a registered Republican, was eventually introduced to many of these individuals who all vouched for the credibility and reliability of Hsu," the lawsuit states.

The suit contends that Waters was told that because Clinton was running for president, she carefully screened each of her associations.

"It now appears that Mr. Waters, along with Hillary Clinton, her team of experts and many other prominent political and business leaders were collectively duped by Hsu," the lawsuit states.

Waters continued investing with Hsu, and with each new deal, he increased his monetary investment.

In 2005, family members and friends who heard about Waters' healthy returns also began investing with Hsu. Little by little, the word spread and the limited liability company was formed.

It was soon after that Hsu imposed the condition on Waters that he and future investors would be required to make contributions in the maximum amount allowed by federal election law – $4,600 – to specific political campaigns, including the Hillary Clinton Exploratory Committee and Hillary Clinton Presidential Campaign, according to the lawsuit. Many of the investors are registered Republicans...

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clintons; hillary; hsu
Gets bigger and bigger.

He made the check out to Hsu's operating identity: Components, Ltd.

Yeah, that sounds totally legit. /sarc

Many of the investors are registered Republicans...

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

1 posted on 09/26/2007 8:09:57 PM PDT by jdm
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To: jdm

Same guy... Some Republican....

_______________________________________________
Presented by the Federal Election Commission

Individual Contributions Arranged By Type, Giver, Then Recipient

Contributions to Political Committees

WATERS, MARTIN L
LAGUNA BEACH, CA 92651
H20 PRODUCTIONS CO INC/SALES
CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM
VIA HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT
06/22/2007 2300.00 27990280344
06/22/2007 2300.00 27990280345

WATERS, MARTIN L
LAGUNA BEACH, CA 92651
H2O PRODUCTIONS/SALES
CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM
VIA FRIENDS OF HILLARY
10/18/2006 2100.00 26020941939


2 posted on 09/26/2007 8:17:01 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: jdm
From the article:

"It now appears that Mr. Waters, along with Hillary Clinton, her team of experts and many other prominent political and business leaders were collectively duped by Hsu," the lawsuit states.

It is pretty basic in a background check to see if a person has criminal convictions. Norman Hsu did.

The only deduction that can be made is that Hillary Clinton and her staff are totally incompetent. This is so basic that Hillary should not be a frontrunner.

However, the Clinton basis for power goes back to the Rockefellar connection in Arkansas. There was a Rockefellar as Governor when Bill Clinton was being groomed.

This makes Hillary Clinton a candidate for president because of who the Clintons know and blow...

3 posted on 09/26/2007 8:18:56 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: stylin19a

Good find. Thanks. It’s interesting that the $2300 contribution is as recent as June 22, 2007 - that wasn’t all that long ago. June 22 was even after (I believe) Hillary knew Hsu was bad news.


4 posted on 09/26/2007 8:21:38 PM PDT by jdm
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To: stylin19a; jdm

Laguna Beach, Where are the pictures of Kristin Cavallari?


5 posted on 09/26/2007 8:21:52 PM PDT by Perdogg (Join the NCAA basketball thread - Freemail me)
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To: topher

In other words, powerful connections are what Hillary Clinton is made of, not competence...


6 posted on 09/26/2007 8:23:39 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: jdm
"It now appears that Mr. Waters, along with Hillary Clinton, her team of experts and many other prominent political and business leaders were collectively duped by Hsu,"

On the contrary, it appears that Clinton and Hsu were collaborating on running a scam.

7 posted on 09/26/2007 8:23:58 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Perdogg
Where are the pictures of Kristin Cavallari?

here.

I'm not going to post that one directly to thread. :)

8 posted on 09/26/2007 8:24:24 PM PDT by jdm
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To: Rudder

No kidding. It’s all made up.


9 posted on 09/26/2007 8:25:09 PM PDT by jdm
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To: topher

Soooooo, the SMARTEST woman in the WORLD is DUPED by a HSU???? Hillary is a CONTROL FREAK!! She knows all about HSU!


10 posted on 09/26/2007 8:25:34 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: Enchante

IIRC, you are interested in Hsu. Hence, this ping...


11 posted on 09/26/2007 8:38:52 PM PDT by eureka! (Is power so important to the Democrats that they are willing to betray our country? Sadly, yes.)
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To: jdm

actually, 4600.00


12 posted on 09/26/2007 8:41:04 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Suzy Quzy

13 posted on 09/26/2007 8:46:48 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: stylin19a

Oooops. You’re right. Thanks for the correction.


14 posted on 09/26/2007 8:50:30 PM PDT by jdm
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To: Perdogg

Trouble in the O.C.?


15 posted on 09/26/2007 11:15:56 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("A person's a person no matter how small." -Dr. Seuss)
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To: jdm
They have to keep following the money! This leads back to themainland Chinese for sure.

Also Georgie Soros needs a good looking at. Soros funded the group that was recently fined $750K for illegal campaign finance issues.

16 posted on 09/27/2007 3:51:29 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: jdm
"It now appears that Mr. Waters, along with Hillary Clinton, her team of experts and many other prominent political and business leaders were collectively duped by Hsu," the lawsuit states

If this is the wording in the lawsuit--and it appears it is because of the quote marks--I have serious question about this Martin Waters and/or his legal counsel.

Including such explicit, pre-emptive exhoneration of various parties when there is no factual basis for it strikes me as just plain odd. What lawyer closes doors like that? It is pure supposition and/or wishful thinking that Hillary too was duped. It rests only on the strength of her say-so.

The very nature of the suit demonstrates admission by plaintiffs that they lacked discernment and judgment, failed to do due diligence, and relied on appearances in making their investment decision. Yet they pad their petition to the court with statements of certainties about the nature of Hillary's involment? What's wrong with this picture?

17 posted on 09/27/2007 5:07:54 AM PDT by Eroteme
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To: Eroteme

It was an unnecessary allegation and was probably made by a Democrat lawyer. Frankly, any statement in the lawsuit on the recipients’ state of mind is totally unnecessary, indeed, he should’ve left the door open with nothing in the event there was some later evidence to show that some of the Democrat recipients staffers raised concerns. If that evidence arose, I am sure he could obtain some settlements without even naming them as defendants just to avoid the publicity.


18 posted on 09/27/2007 6:55:48 AM PDT by eureka! (Is power so important to the Democrats that they are willing to betray our country? Sadly, yes.)
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To: topher
The importance of the Rockefeller-Clinton Connection

For those not familar with American History, John D. Rockefeller was the Robber Baron behind oil giants Exxon, Mobil, Chevron, and Amoco. They were part of the Standard Oil Monopoly. It was big money and big money that John D. Rockefeller was associated with.

However, John D. Rockefeller was a prominent player in the forming and passing of the Federal Reserve Act. In fact, the one Rockefeller that came the closest to the US Presidency was President Ford's Vice-President Nelson Rockefeller. Nelson Rockefeller has an interesting heritage: his maternal grandfather (and namesake) passed the Federal Reserve Act in 1912 with the help of two other Senators. His grandfather was Senator Nelson Aldridgre.

Senator Nelson Aldridge kept the Senate in session on Christmas Eve 1912 so that the three senators could pass the historic Federal Reserve Act -- enslaving the money of the United States to a group of powerful business and bankers who had earlier met on an island in Georgia to put the plan together (people such as J. P. Morgan was in attendance).

The Federal Reserve Act was so important to the schemes of these people that they were able to get Woodrow Wilson to promise to sign the Act if it was passed. Hence, this group convinced Teddy Rooservelt to run against Taft when Wilson ran so that Teddy would split the conservative vote...

19 posted on 09/27/2007 7:56:50 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

George Soros group SHOULD be investigated by the FBI and the Justice Dept....not just the FEC!! a fine of $750,000.00 is like $1.00 to us.


20 posted on 09/27/2007 8:15:07 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: jdm

So where did Hsu get the money to keep making these payoffs to Waters and the other small investors from 2004 until Hsu suckered Waters and his friends into giving him $23 million in May 2007?

It still does not figure that Hsu’s short term ponzi scheme can generate the cash needed to payoff the short term investors every 3 months, live a lavish lifestyle, and make big contributions to Hillary and the other Democrats.

Somebody employed Hsu to launder millions of dollars. Will the FBI dig into it?

So far based upon the FBI complaint, they are not going to go there.

“The two later met in 2004 after a mutual colleague had told Waters of several successful investments he had made with Hsu. Waters made an initial $10,000 investment with Hsu that same year, according to the lawsuit. He made the check out to Hsu’s operating identity: Components, Ltd.”


21 posted on 09/27/2007 9:42:27 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Suzy Quzy
My point is that criminal background checks are the easiest to do. It is such a basic function of any Human Resources of any company.

This means that not only Hillary has all the negatives we already know about her, but she will be even more incompetent than Jimmy Carter -- who was truly a disaster for this country...

You don't associate with KNOWN FELONS, and that is what HSU has been since -- well, since 1991...

22 posted on 09/27/2007 6:14:02 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher

BTTT....Winkle Paw hasn’t been seen for 3 weeks and was a co-signer on Hsu’s account. hmmmmmmmmm


23 posted on 09/27/2007 9:12:16 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: topher

BTTT....Winkle Paw hasn’t been seen for 3 weeks and was a co-signer on Hsu’s account. hmmmmmmmmm


24 posted on 09/27/2007 9:12:21 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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