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Senate to consider ratification of U.N. Law of the Sea Treaty
One News Now ^ | September 27, 2007 | Chad Groening

Posted on 09/27/2007 11:40:22 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A national defense analyst says it's absolutely crazy that Pentagon officials will push the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to recommend the quick ratification of the U.N. Law of the Sea Treaty.

Cliff Kincaid, president of America's Survival, has already expressed his concerns that the Chinese have been using their huge trade advantage with the U.S. to build up their navy, while the U.S. Navy plans to further reduce the number of ships in its fleet. (See earlier article) But Kincaid says instead of changing course and rebuilding to counter the Chinese threat, top Naval officials, including Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Mike Mullen, want to depend on a piece of paper to keep America secure.

"We've got U.S. Navy leaders who are going before the Senate of the United States telling them rather than build more ships we need to sign a treaty. [They're saying] we need to ratify the so-called U.N. Law of the Sea Treaty. Frankly, I don't see how a piece of paper from the U.N. -- an anti-American agency to boot -- is going to help us," he laments.

Kincaid states by taking that route, the U.S. would be putting its security in the hands of the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea. "We're simply going to get out-voted, and all the decisions under this International Law of the Sea Tribunal are going to go against us. It's simply craziness. It's worse than that -- it's a delusion. And yet this is [what's staring us] in the face now," he says.

According to Kincaid all the witnesses at the September 27 hearing are pro-treaty. He says another hearing is scheduled to follow and a quick Senate vote on the pact is then predicted.


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Just a reminder...
1 posted on 09/27/2007 11:40:27 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; AlwaysFree; ...

PING!


2 posted on 09/27/2007 11:44:01 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Oh, Geesh, not THIS crap AGAIN?!?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Which is precisely why the Pentagon (read liberal entrenched bureaucrats)hated Rumsfeld.

Regardless of what you believe about his leadership on Iraq, the long knives at the Pentagon, hated his guts and did everything necessary to rid themselves of him.

3 posted on 09/27/2007 11:44:21 AM PDT by zerosix (<Native Sunflower>)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Emailing WornOut and MelonHead

http://warner.senate.gov/contact/contactme.cfm

http://webb.senate.gov/contact/


4 posted on 09/27/2007 11:51:38 AM PDT by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Here’s an idea........why don’t we just get rid of our Navy and have the Chinese protect us? Maybe we should get rid of all of our military? Then sit back and let the Democrats figure out how to take care of this country. Globalization is going to kill this country.


5 posted on 09/27/2007 11:51:46 AM PDT by RC2
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To: RC2
Globalization is going to kill this country.

Yep!

6 posted on 09/27/2007 11:55:03 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So... what does the treaty do? Lots of fear and loathing and gnashing of teeth, but a poverty of facts.

So what’s in this treaty?


7 posted on 09/27/2007 11:55:57 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius

Maybe we should all start signing over pay checks over to Uncle Sam.


8 posted on 09/27/2007 11:57:49 AM PDT by DirtyPigpen
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To: Ramius

For one thing, the treaty established a U.N. Seabed Authority, to which member countries must pay a fee to develop mineral resources in international waters. In effect, the U.N. gets a dedicated source of revenue.

For another thing, the treaty created an International Tribunal to resolve disputes, presumably occurring between signatories in international waters over such things as mineral rights. There is a good chance this tribunal will be stacked against us.


9 posted on 09/27/2007 12:04:34 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Oh, Geesh, not THIS crap AGAIN?!?)
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To: Ramius

There are also other FreeRepublic posts that go into greater detail about the provisions of the treaty.


10 posted on 09/27/2007 12:06:14 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Oh, Geesh, not THIS crap AGAIN?!?)
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To: Ramius
schlafly
11 posted on 09/27/2007 12:07:54 PM PDT by Jason_b (Click jason_b to the left here and read something about People v. De La Guerra 40 Cal. 311)
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To: RC2

Then sit back and let the Democrats figure out how to take care of this country

Bush wants to sign this. It’s a bipartisan rape going on here.


12 posted on 09/27/2007 12:09:47 PM PDT by saganite
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Too bad Jesse Helms is out of office !


13 posted on 09/27/2007 12:13:46 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I did my part and contacted my two loser senators, Casey and Specter, as much good as that will do.


14 posted on 09/27/2007 12:18:24 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Ramius

We know the U.N. Are you trying to say that you think something wonderful will come out of it?

Seriously bud, check yourself in if there’s no one else around.


15 posted on 09/27/2007 12:50:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If Lybia and Syria can become the chairs of terrorism and human rights commissions, what’s to stop the U.N. from installing Iran’s leader as the chair of the Sea Bed commission?

Do we even need to debate this one? Seriously?

(not directed at you)


16 posted on 09/27/2007 12:53:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; BufordP
Wasted a few minutes.

Wasted a few more minutes.

17 posted on 09/27/2007 12:54:55 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Oh, Geesh, not THIS crap AGAIN?!?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Ramius
...U.N. seabed authority, to which member countries or mineral explorers must pay a fee...
18 posted on 09/27/2007 12:56:23 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Oh, Geesh, not THIS crap AGAIN?!?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The United States needs this sea treaty about as much as we needed the immigration amnesty bill and the Kyoto treaty. Has everyone in Washington lost thier minds...including Bush??? November ‘08 can’t come soon enough for me...so we can hopefully get rid of some of these bastards!!!!!


19 posted on 09/27/2007 12:57:47 PM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Ooooooo...Mikulski and Cardin...I feel for you dude!


20 posted on 09/27/2007 1:00:04 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: CORedneck
"Too bad Jesse Helms is out of office !"

Was he the only one?

Is there no other possible Congressman or Senator who we could trust to take charge of this?

Is the memory of Jesse Helms the only hope for freedom in this country?

This saddens me more than I can say right now.

To hear that the only possible savior of America has gone and left office, never to help us anymore. And here we sit, hopeless and alone waiting for the reincarnation of Jesse Helms to reappear in the Senate and send those U.N. commies running for the tall grass.

Heaven help us all.

21 posted on 09/27/2007 1:52:38 PM PDT by Designer
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Today's testimony
22 posted on 09/27/2007 1:56:29 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
PONG!

free dixie,sw

23 posted on 09/27/2007 2:10:40 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Designer; All
Was he the only one? Is there no other possible Congressman or Senator who we could trust to take charge of this?

DUNCAN HUNTER

The rest don't seem to want to talk about it.

#13. Do you support the Law of the Sea Treaty? If not, will you revoke it if it passes before you take office?

Hunter: No, in the past I have opposed the Law of the Sea Treaty. I expect that to continue. There are serious issues of sovereignty involved, and as in the past, I have no intention of letting US sovereignty be eroded.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1880600/posts

24 posted on 09/27/2007 2:16:13 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB

Duncan Hunter: the only man running for office.


25 posted on 09/27/2007 2:58:47 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Oh, Geesh, not THIS crap AGAIN?!?)
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To: AuntB
"DUNCAN HUNTER

The rest don't seem to want to talk about it."

O.K., but then I'll go you one better; Dr. Ron Paul, who not only would not support LOST, but actually strikes at the very heart of the problem.

Of course, I realize True, Genuine FReepers don't listen to Ron Paul, therefore also don't realize he was lead sponsor of HR 1146 "The American Sovreignty Restoration Act".

26 posted on 09/28/2007 5:27:25 AM PDT by Designer
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Listen to the testimony from this site if you can. At least listen to Sen. Ritter from about 1:59 to 2:07. He has more questions later also. The Treaty is not all that it appears to be.

http://www.senate.gov/~foreign/hearings/2007/hrg071004a.html
27 posted on 11/18/2007 10:45:16 AM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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