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Report Says Hussein Was Open To Exile Before 2003 Invasion ($1 billion and information on WMD's)
Washington Post ^ | September 27, 2007 | Karen DeYoung and Michael Abramowitz

Posted on 09/27/2007 12:03:51 PM PDT by bobsunshine

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There is more to this story than the Post is stating. The memo in Spanish is translated by machine. BUT here at Barcepundit, is the proper translation:

Key Point from Barcepundit (h/t MacRanger):

"Editor and Publisher has a machine translation, which is quite atrocious. If you can read Spanish, the full text is here....."

"If anything, the transcript proves precisely the opposing point that critics want to make. The conversation shows both Bush and Aznar trying to avoid war; that they were concerned of its human toll, and that Saddam wanted to flee with money... and WMD information. I guess all the people who are trumpeting this will stop saying now that Bush lied and mislead us on the WMD issue. Won't hold my breath, though.

At one point Bush explicitely says: "Yo no quiero la guerra. Sé lo que son las guerras. Sé la destrucción y la muerte que traen consigo. Yo soy el que tiene que consolar a las madres y a las viudas de los muertos. Por supuesto, para nosotros esa sería la mejor solución. Además, nos ahorraría 50.000 millones de dólares" ["I don't want war. I know what war is like. I know the death and destruction they bring. I am the one who has to comfort the mothers and wives of the dead. Of course, for us [a diplomatic solution] would be the best one. Also, it would save 50 billion dollars" -- again, my emphasis and translation]"

http://barcepundit-english.blogspot.com/2007/09/much-is-being-made-of-scoop-by-pro.html

1 posted on 09/27/2007 12:03:53 PM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: bobsunshine

50 billion. haha. With the last appropriation bill its going to be over 600 billion. War just doesn’t work economically without the whole ‘spoils of war’ thing to finance it.


2 posted on 09/27/2007 12:05:45 PM PDT by RolandBurnam (foxnews: what's so conservative about car chases and missing white women?)
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To: bobsunshine

“There is more to this story than the Post is stating”

Well, there’s a shocker. ;)


3 posted on 09/27/2007 12:05:50 PM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: bobsunshine

National Geographics’ DVD “Inside Shock-n-Awe” goes over much of this.


4 posted on 09/27/2007 12:06:16 PM PDT by avacado
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To: bobsunshine

This story has to be wrong. How could there be information on WMD when we all know that didn’t exist.

/sarc


5 posted on 09/27/2007 12:07:22 PM PDT by driftdiver
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MSNBC / Washington Post report taken with a grain of salt.


6 posted on 09/27/2007 12:07:26 PM PDT by WBL 1952
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To: bobsunshine
He was permanently exiled.
7 posted on 09/27/2007 12:07:54 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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go into exile as long as he could take with him $1 billion and information on weapons of mass destruction,

But but but but there were no weapons of mass destruction, right???????

8 posted on 09/27/2007 12:08:08 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Michael Moore bought Haliburton)
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To: avacado

So he wanted us to let him go to another Muslim madhouse where WMDs could be manufactured for Terrorism. We were right to invade.


9 posted on 09/27/2007 12:08:23 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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For $1B and sole possession of all incriminating evidence, pretty much anyone would do anything. I’d be happy to take that, go build a nice tropical island, and enjoy spending $27,000/day for the next hundred years.


10 posted on 09/27/2007 12:09:21 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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“Yo no quiero la guerra. Sé lo que son las guerras. Sé la destrucción y la muerte que traen consigo. Yo soy el que tiene que consolar a las madres y a las viudas de los muertos. Por supuesto, para nosotros esa sería la mejor solución. Además, nos ahorraría 50.000 millones de dólares” [”I don’t want war. I know what war is like. I know the death and destruction they bring. I am the one who has to comfort the mothers and wives of the dead. Of course, for us [a diplomatic solution] would be the best one. Also, it would save 50 billion dollars” — again, my emphasis and translation]”

Is that you Baxter? You know I don’t speak spanish


11 posted on 09/27/2007 12:12:12 PM PDT by rineaux (Just say NO to taglines)
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With the last appropriation bill its going to be over 600 billion.

Source for this claim please? Seems you are lumping in ALL the war appropriations and blaming it all on Iraq. That is intellectually dishonest.

12 posted on 09/27/2007 12:12:36 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/ vrs the "Worse than Watergate Congress")
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"So he wanted us to let him go to another Muslim madhouse where WMDs could be manufactured for Terrorism. We were right to invade."

Actually Bush told him to leave and gave him a countdown. Saddam wasn't too thrilled with being told to leave and I think that is what made Saddam stay.

13 posted on 09/27/2007 12:13:25 PM PDT by avacado
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To: MNJohnnie

The US Military saved us 1 Billion dollars!


14 posted on 09/27/2007 12:14:01 PM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: bobsunshine

Well this proves there were WMDs in the works. Now who would have graciously moved and locked away that evidence? Syria or or Syria? Recently, nuclear materials were headed somewhere inside of Syria. bah we’ve become a bunch of wimps.


15 posted on 09/27/2007 12:15:25 PM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: MNJohnnie

It’s hard to find accurate figures for obvious reasons - much of the budget is reappropriated down the line, part of emergency spending or classified.

From what I’ve read, the war cost somewhere between $3-7 billion. The occupation/counterinsurgency is pushing $166 billion in mostly supplemental appropriations, but that isn’t taking into account reconstruction costs.

Honestly, it’s a mess. I’ve tried to research a figure for myself, but it is an accounting nightmare.


16 posted on 09/27/2007 12:20:01 PM PDT by SomeReasonableDude (Back it up.)
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Any person that has a problem with us NOT negotiating with terrorists, does not understand our policy in this regard.
WE DO NOT pay blood money to despots, murderers, and terrorists!
Doing so would not only set a horrible precedent but it would only embolden the other “evil” leaders that seek ill-gotten rewards.


17 posted on 09/27/2007 12:20:05 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (If You Support America - Thank a Soldier; If You Support Al-Qaeda - Thank a Democrat!)
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And of course we only have THIS sources word on all this. Anyone think this is a serious credible source?

El Pais, a leading Spanish daily and a critic of the war, said the transcript of the conversation was prepared by Spain's ambassador to the United States, Javier Ruperez, who was at the meeting in Crawford. The newspaper did not say how it obtained the memo

Let see the memo may not exist, the memo may be being misquoted. The reporter may be cheery picking the facts and putting their own spin on it. The supposed claim may of been just a rumor. Saddam may of made the offer just as a delaying tactic etc etc etc etc

How many times are “conservatives” going to be suckered with these anonymous, unsourced claims by people with a transparent propaganda agenda? How many of these lies are “conservatives” going to buy into before they stop having this knee jerk faith in the Drive By media?

Let see, there was the “Bush is going wobbly on Iraq”, Bush is going to shut down Gitmo”, Downing Street Memo? Rathergate? The lies about Abu Grabe? The claims the US was “bogged won and cut off in Iraq” during the invasion. That US troops were unread to fight in Afghanistan? etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

What is it going to take to get “conservative” to wake up to the fact that THESE people are your enemies. They are NOT to be trusted.Neither in what they claim nor in how they deliberately misquote their opponents to give the illusion of veracity.

18 posted on 09/27/2007 12:20:55 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/ vrs the "Worse than Watergate Congress")
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this should be treated as enemy propoganda. During WWII those responsible would be in jail.


19 posted on 09/27/2007 12:22:28 PM PDT by balch3
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To: bobsunshine

Interesting. BMFLR.


20 posted on 09/27/2007 12:28:04 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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