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English won't be Bakersfield's official language
AP via SFGate ^ | 9/27/7

Posted on 09/27/2007 2:14:25 PM PDT by SmithL

Bakersfield, Calif. (AP) --

A bid to make English the official language of this San Joaquin Valley city failed after much debate.

The city council also shot down on Wednesday another proposal that would have made clear that Bakersfield is not a sanctuary for illegal immigrants, but it approved a resolution calling on the federal government to enact immigration reform.

After the meeting, opponents of the English-only and the sanctuary resolutions praised the council for making the "morally correct" decision.

. . . Famed labor leader Dolores Huerta, who spoke to city council members, called the defeated resolutions "hateful" and "divisive."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliennation; aliens; aztlan; bakersfield; balkanization; bomb; colonization; doloreshuerta; english; immigrantlist; immigration; language; macahuitl; mecha; officialenglish; press2forspanish; reconquista; sanctuarycity

1 posted on 09/27/2007 2:14:28 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Que?


2 posted on 09/27/2007 2:17:54 PM PDT by SoCalRight
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To: SoCalRight

Una oferta para hacer inglés que la lengua oficial de esta ciudad del valle de San Joaquín falló después de mucho discusión.

El consejo de ciudad también tirado abajo el miércoles que otra oferta que habría hecho claramente esa Bakersfield es un no santuario para los inmigrantes ilegales, sino él aprobó una resolución invitando el gobierno federal para decretar reforma de la inmigración.

Después de la reunión, los opositores del inglés solamente y las resoluciones del santuario elogiaron a consejo para hacer “corrigen moral” la decisión.

. Líder de trabajo famoso Dolores Huerta, que habló a los miembros de consejo de ciudad, llamado las resoluciones derrotadas “odiosas” y “divisivas.”


3 posted on 09/27/2007 2:22:08 PM PDT by lowbridge (All I Have To Say Is....KERMIT THE FROG IS IN SESAME STREET GOD DAMNIT!)
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To: SmithL
Famed labor leader Dolores Huerta, who spoke to city council members, called the defeated resolutions "hateful" and "divisive."

I think it is hateful when illegals help themselves to my tax dollars.

4 posted on 09/27/2007 2:25:53 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Democrats In Control! (Where's my friggin' free stuff?))
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Ya and it is the morally wrong thing for MS. Huerta to
support law breakers.

Funny Nigeria has english as offical language of business and government even though they have numerous native languages. Having an offical language has helped move them toward unity and progress.


5 posted on 09/27/2007 2:32:22 PM PDT by biscuit jane
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To: SmithL
The first move for Balkanization of the west no doubt.
6 posted on 09/27/2007 2:52:24 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: SmithL

Ah yes, the lovely Delores!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1610739/posts


7 posted on 09/27/2007 2:57:06 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: SmithL

I live in Bakersfield. I tried watching the City Council meeting last night but couldn’t hold back my gag reflex.
Bakersfield is gone and is close to becoming unlivable.
Noone cares.


8 posted on 09/27/2007 3:01:19 PM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

what do you mean by “gone...”
Can you add some description to that?

I know what’s happened to the San Fernando valley where my folks still live in the house I grew up in, but a description of Bakersfield before and after helps.

A few months ago, my childhood friend’s mother (my friend is long gone of course; haven’t seen him in 15 yars) sold her house to move to a retirement community. It was a nice corner house I’d spend countless hours in during the late 1970s. Nicely trimmed, and watered yard. Painted. Clean. Leave it to Beaver etc.

Of course, a Hispanic family bought it—or several families.

Immediately, for some reason, they just began digging up the yard and planting trees and bushes like every 5 feet; randomly and ceased taking care of the grass—just random bushes of various kinds all over the yard. They moved a bench out to the front porch and several of them sit out and stare at the street at night...I guess they don’t have a television, and I doubt they can read.

And several piece of sh!t cars now litter the street (+ a couple in the driveway)...
It’s being converted from a home into a Mexican Barrio city-farm.
At this point, what can you do but laugh. Looks like complete sh!t though. I mean...it looks like SH!T.


9 posted on 09/27/2007 3:31:10 PM PDT by kbingham
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To: kbingham

The illegals have taken over Bakersfield and are procreating at an exponential rate.
The situation you described is everywhere here. New, nice neighborhoods only stay that way for about 5 years.
There is absolutely nowhere in town that is ‘safe’. We have had home invasion robberies in upscale neighborhoods.
We have a larger than 5 sq mile radius that looks just like Mexico.
The hispanics have moved into all the lower economic sections of town, including what used to be the black neighborhoods. They have run the blacks into other areas.
Our surrounding small towns are all 97% hispanic now.
We have gang wars on our streets.
Everyone we talk to is looking at going somewhere else.
Specific enough for you?


10 posted on 09/27/2007 3:53:28 PM PDT by sheana
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To: SmithL
Add Bakersfield as another victory for the reconquistas. We are a conquered people who just haven’t come to grips with the reality of it.
11 posted on 09/27/2007 4:02:13 PM PDT by isrul
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To: SmithL
Famed labor leader Dolores Huerta, who spoke to city council members, called the defeated resolutions "hateful" and "divisive."

Spoken like a good Marxist.

12 posted on 09/27/2007 4:38:23 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


13 posted on 09/27/2007 6:19:53 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: sheana
Everyone we talk to is looking at going somewhere else.

Like where? Where can we go anymore? I live in the Valley, the same area the other Freeper was talking about. The same things are happening here as where you are. Where can any of us go where it's still nice and the invasion isn't happening, and it isn't likely to happen in the future? (Other than expensive, gated communities?) I wish someone would tell me.

14 posted on 09/27/2007 6:26:36 PM PDT by Nea Wood (I'm not a bad Christian because I refuse to join you in giving other people's stuff away.)
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To: gubamyster; SmithL

The “Death of the West” as Patrick Buchannan wrote about is proceeding rather quickly!


15 posted on 09/27/2007 6:28:27 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: sheana

When you die you’re going straight to heaven because you’ve already served your hitch in hell. BAKERSFIELD!

Where’s the fence?


16 posted on 09/27/2007 6:32:13 PM PDT by Plains Drifter (If guns kill people, wouldn't there be a lot of dead people at gun shows?)
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To: SmithL
Famed labor leader Dolores Huerta, who spoke to city council members, called the defeated resolutions "hateful" and "divisive."

In order for an issue about a language to be "divisive" there has to be a second language in question to divide the existing speaking pool. Lacking the influx of illegals, there wouldn't be said second language. It is therefore the Spanish language preference of Ms. Huerta and her ilk that is divisive.

Glad to clear it up.

17 posted on 09/27/2007 6:34:38 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Nea Wood

West Virginia, northern Wisconsin, North Dakota, etc.


18 posted on 09/27/2007 6:36:52 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: SoCalRight; lowbridge

I would be laughing at your exchange if I weren’t fuming because I’ve come to hate the spanish language.


19 posted on 09/27/2007 6:39:39 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum
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To: sheana

Yep...I definitely get it now, thanks. Wow...sounds like a nightmare, but I know how it is.

But as Navarrette says, they aren’t going anywhere. Everyone needs to be reminded that they aren’t going anywhere. We need to get it into our heads that they aren’t going anywhere. And in time, people may find themselves with the understanding that no one is going to fix this problem for us until we begin to revolt against it.


20 posted on 09/27/2007 7:55:40 PM PDT by kbingham
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To: kbingham; SmithL

“And in time, people may find themselves with the understanding that no one is going to fix this problem for us until we begin to revolt against it.”

BTTT!

We need to defend our country in anyway we can.

We can no longer depend on our “leaders” to do it for us.

For some reason the words of Thomas Paine — “these are the times that try mens souls” — come to mind.


21 posted on 09/27/2007 8:50:29 PM PDT by STE=Q ("Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock." (Will Rogers))
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To: STE=Q
We need to defend our country in anyway we can. We can no longer depend on our “leaders” to do it for us.

The hispanic gangbangers are so thick in an old neighborhood in the town where I grew up that no one goes there anymore, especially at night. This was a neighborhood of legal immigrants from Italy and Yugoslavia, and most have been scared out of their lifetime homes.

The leaders of this country have done everything they can to start a race war in America, and they will probably succeed. Martial law, here we come!

22 posted on 09/27/2007 9:40:00 PM PDT by janetgreen (America For Sale - call Junior Bush at 202-456-1414)
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To: janetgreen

“The leaders of this country have done everything they can to start a race war in America, and they will probably succeed. Martial law, here we come!”

I think you are right.

However, we should not allow these “leaders” (traitors) to manipulate us into race wars, thereby allowing them to justify Martial law.

We need to do what we can to save the country — while avoiding the aforementioned trap.


23 posted on 09/27/2007 11:08:33 PM PDT by STE=Q ("Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock." (Will Rogers))
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To: TheLion
Glad to know I wasn't the only one to read that and take it seriously. Kind of like all those liberals bugging Charlton Heston for guns when the LA riots were running rampant - the libs learn they were wrong all along and come crying with their heads bowed.

Let them reap what they sowed.

24 posted on 09/27/2007 11:49:19 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (and where's that non-virtual double fence!)
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To: SmithL

Wanting any other language other than English in the USA ...now THATS hateful!


25 posted on 09/27/2007 11:59:55 PM PDT by donnab
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To: sheana

Chilling! When I think of Bakersfield I think of Buck Owens.


26 posted on 09/28/2007 12:02:53 AM PDT by dennisw (France needs a new kind of immigrant one who is "selected, not endured" - Sarkozy)
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To: biscuit jane
Having an offical language has helped move them toward unity and progress.

English did the same for India as well.

All of the discussion about and the founding documents of this nation are in English, and the concepts thereof may not survive translation. But then that is the aim of those who would keep these people doing jobs 'Americans would not do'.

It is as much a disservice to not teach the (legal) immigrants English as it is to teach 'Ebonics', neither of which will get them a decent job.

The illegals should be sent home.

27 posted on 09/28/2007 12:08:30 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Clemenza

Oh, they’re coming, but English is the official language in the State of North Dakota.


28 posted on 09/28/2007 12:11:31 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: dennisw
When I think of Bakersfield I think of Buck Owens.

Me, too. Fifty years ago, the only other language than English considered would have been 'Okie'... (8^D)

29 posted on 09/28/2007 12:13:39 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Out in the fields Okies used to what the Mexicans are doing now. FWIW I am not a country music fan but I like Buck Owens, Dwight Yokum affectionately “stole” from him. Buck is Bakersfield is indelibly etched in my mind


30 posted on 09/28/2007 1:41:41 AM PDT by dennisw (France needs a new kind of immigrant one who is "selected, not endured" - Sarkozy)
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To: dennisw

I used to watch Buck on TV (and the Buckaroos) as a youngster. I still like that kind of music. I have worked with a crowd of Okies in the oil patch, good folks, all.


31 posted on 09/28/2007 3:01:19 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

We should have froze that moment in time. USA hasn’t gotten any better since then and Bakersfield is much much worse


32 posted on 09/28/2007 5:05:57 AM PDT by dennisw (France needs a new kind of immigrant one who is "selected, not endured" - Sarkozy)
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To: kbingham
The Valley has gone pretty far downhill, hasn't it. Van Nuys 60 years ago and today. The last thing it needs is more immigration.
33 posted on 09/28/2007 5:06:11 AM PDT by ruination
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To: kbingham

Okay got a story that happened just last night.
Lamont is one of our small perimeter towns that is 07% hispanic. A friend of ours, a legal immigrant, owns a restaurant out there that we go to to eat all the time.
Yesterday we had reservations for the extended family and us at 6 pm.
Our daughter, and her 2 kids were stopped by a CHP on the corner of Panama and Fairfax which is about 1/2 mile outside of town. He wanted to know where she was going. She told him to dinner and he asked why. She told him to the name of the restaurant and he asked why. She talked to him a few minutes and then drove on to the restaurant and told us about it.
About halfway thru dinner the CHP showed up at the restaurant and it was someone hubby knew so we talked to him.
He said he saw a pretty blonde in a brand new car headed into town and wanted to make sure she wasn’t lost and was safe.
Even the cop knew that she shouldn’t be there, especially after dark.


34 posted on 09/28/2007 7:36:18 AM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

And everyone who is looking to go elsewhere are still voting democrat?


35 posted on 09/28/2007 7:40:13 AM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
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To: stevio

Dumb response.
Kern County is one of the most conservative places left in California.


36 posted on 09/28/2007 8:00:52 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Nea Wood

“Like where? Where can we go anymore? I live in the Valley, the same area the other Freeper was talking about. The same things are happening here as where you are. Where can any of us go where it’s still nice and the invasion isn’t happening, and it isn’t likely to happen in the future? (Other than expensive, gated communities?) I wish someone would tell me.”

Simple. Leave California to rot. Move to another state where elected officials actually insist on enforcing the law. An article came out today in USA Today, clearly showing that in these states, illegals are packing up and moving, either to sanctuary states, or back to Mexico.

You should go to a place where the law is actually enforced. If Californians started leaving the state in a greater exodus over this issue, there’d be some changes there.


37 posted on 09/28/2007 8:08:58 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: SmithL

Memo to “miz” Dolores Huerta: Press 1 for GTHO if you don’t like the USA!


38 posted on 09/28/2007 9:28:13 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Hunter and Tancredo in '08! La Raza - the PLO of the Western Hemisphere)
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To: SmithL

The Fence grows so slowwwwwwww


39 posted on 09/28/2007 8:17:35 PM PDT by Uncle George
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To: Carry_Okie

>>It is therefore the Spanish language preference of Ms. Huerta and her ilk that is divisive.<<

Presumably, Ms. Huerta would likewise call a traffic ordinance requiring that motorists all drive on the right side of the street “divisive.”


40 posted on 09/29/2007 3:57:08 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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