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TexDOT: No Money to Build New Highways
WOAI ^ | 09/28/2007 | Jim Forsyth

Posted on 09/28/2007 5:07:02 AM PDT by ElephantinTexas

TexDOT: No Money to Build New Hghways

Agency blames diversion of state gas tax money, curbs on privately funded toll roads By Jim Forsyth Friday, September 28, 2007 At a time the Texas Department of Transportation is defending spending thousands of dollars on a public relations campaign designed to convince you to support toll roads, the department says it has no money to pay for highway construction, 1200 WOAI's Robert Wood reports.

"The bottom line is, we're running out of money very quickly," TexDOT's Chris Lippincott says.

Lippincott blames decisions by state lawmakers to spend more than $1.5 billion in state gas tax money on pet pork barrel projects, a process painstakingly details by 1200 WOAI news over the last year, as well as hundreds of millions in federal highway dollars lost. TexDOT also blames a two year moratorium on privately funded toll roads which was approved earlier this year by the Texas Legislature.

TexDOT says after fiscal year 2008, which ends September 30, 2008, the department will have no money left for any new highway construction, and says its entire budget will be taken up paying for repairs on existing state highways.

The agency warned that by the early part of the next decade, even funding for repairing existing highways will be in jeopardy.

"That means we won't have as much money for congestion relief," Lippincott says, "We won't be able to build new highways, or new lanes on existing highways."

Lippincott blames 'soaring inflation' which has reduced the ability of the state gasoline tax, which hasn't been raised since the early 1990's.

"Increasing traffic is wearing down our highways. We have a population that increases by a thousand people a day."

But despite this imminent poverty, TexDOT says it will continue to fight attempts by grass roots groups to stop it from spending millions of dollars on 'Keep Texas Moving,' a public relations campaign designed to 'educate' Texans on the need for toll roads, and the Trans Texas Corridor.


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Hi all. I heard this on the radio this morning and it made me mad enough to chew up 16 penny nails and spit out a barbwired fence!

I did several searches and didn't see this posted yet and I'm in a big hurry here this morning but I'll give ya' updates as I get 'em.

1 posted on 09/28/2007 5:07:04 AM PDT by ElephantinTexas
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To: ElephantinTexas

All Perry’s fault>


2 posted on 09/28/2007 5:09:38 AM PDT by BlabItGrabIt (He Became Poor, So WE Might Be Rich :) 2 Cor. 8:9)
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To: ElephantinTexas

LOL... but look at all those neat, bike trails that they’ve built!


3 posted on 09/28/2007 5:11:20 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: BlabItGrabIt

The TX state budget and taxes have been growing out pasing the growth of the state for over a decade. Where has the money gone?


4 posted on 09/28/2007 5:11:59 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Hydroshock

They are remodeling the Governor’s Mansion...


5 posted on 09/28/2007 5:13:36 AM PDT by TxCopper
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To: ElephantinTexas
Lippincott blames decisions by state lawmakers to spend more than $1.5 billion in state gas tax money on pet pork barrel projects...

That pretty-much sums it up. Gas tax dollars spent on anything other than roads is a waste. If the bikers want bike paths, let the bikers pay for them.

6 posted on 09/28/2007 5:15:01 AM PDT by meyer (Illegal Immigration - The profits are privatized, the costs are socialized.)
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To: ElephantinTexas

The bought off judge said that they can spend $6 million dollars promoting toll roads that we don’t want.

TXDOT is out of control!


7 posted on 09/28/2007 5:15:01 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands..)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Hello my FRiend. The folks on your ‘ping’ list may want to see this one.


8 posted on 09/28/2007 5:15:14 AM PDT by ElephantinTexas (But IF the Islamofascists win their war, they have no PLAN. Kinda like the DemokRATS.)
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To: TxCopper
For the umpteenth time my vote for Kinky is shown to be right.
9 posted on 09/28/2007 5:17:46 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Hydroshock
You have any luck working your way into the Austin Elite, then give us an update where that money went.

Again, it's all Perry's fault.

10 posted on 09/28/2007 5:19:15 AM PDT by BlabItGrabIt (He Became Poor, So WE Might Be Rich :) 2 Cor. 8:9)
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To: ElephantinTexas

These things happen because we no longer hold anyone accountable to the public taxpayers. Let us see the ledgers. We have a right to see them. Show us when and where every last dollar went.


11 posted on 09/28/2007 5:19:51 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: Hydroshock
"Where has the money gone?"

Three guesses and the first two don't count. The politicians and the bureaucrats have used it for their own enrichment and power. Why should they care that the infrastructure is crumbling? See my tag line.

Carolyn

12 posted on 09/28/2007 5:20:27 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: ElephantinTexas

Where’s that picture of 11 men standing around and watching ONE man dig a trench?


13 posted on 09/28/2007 5:22:12 AM PDT by poobear (Pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. God save the Republic!)
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To: BlabItGrabIt; CDHart
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14 posted on 09/28/2007 5:23:52 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Hydroshock

No, ALL Perry’s fault. LOL!


15 posted on 09/28/2007 5:28:40 AM PDT by BlabItGrabIt (He Became Poor, So WE Might Be Rich :) 2 Cor. 8:9)
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To: BlabItGrabIt

He is in fact Darth Idiotus.


16 posted on 09/28/2007 5:31:18 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: ElephantinTexas

Texas is a little slow. California has been doing this for years — diverting gas tax money that is supposed to be spent on roads on garbage. Although Texas is ahead of California on one thing. California just lets their citizens sit in traffic jams. Texas is trying to stop that — by raiding the traveling publics wallet for more money to replace what they have diverted.


17 posted on 09/28/2007 5:31:21 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: Hydroshock

Hydroshock, the news sound inflationary. My charts aren’t showing anything tho’


18 posted on 09/28/2007 5:34:26 AM PDT by BlabItGrabIt (He Became Poor, So WE Might Be Rich :) 2 Cor. 8:9)
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To: ElephantinTexas

TxDOT is a government institution. Anyone who expects government to act responsibly with accountability for the public trust has been asleep for the past century. These are the same people that some folks want in control of their health care. Scary!!

To be fair, however, it isn’t all TxDOT’s problem. The Congress AND the Texas Legislature have both had their grimy paws in the robbing-the-gas-tax-money debacle that has precipitated the current situation.

When the money is stolen BEFORE you get it in your hands, it is pretty hard to meet increased spending requirements. Sounds a little like withholding income taxes from our pay checks, doesn’t it? The government takes it BEFORE we have a chance to see it.

This is just another example of the rot in government at all levels that is making people distrust the government more than at any time before. I don’t necessarily believe that TxDOT would spend the money more responsibly than the Congress or the Texas Leg, but when they are ripped off by these bodies before they see the money, it is hard to know how to budget appropriately, thus bringing the existing situation to the fore.

DISGRACEFUL!!!!! Prisons are full of incarcerated criminals, but they run free in the halls of our state and national legislative bodies!!!


19 posted on 09/28/2007 5:39:12 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: hadaclueonce
The bought off judge said that they can spend $6 million dollars promoting toll roads that we don’t want.

That is one reason. The KLBJ morning crew is talking about this today.

20 posted on 09/28/2007 5:40:36 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (DC scandals. Republicans address them, Democrats reelect them. (Tom De Lay 8/30/07))
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To: ElephantinTexas
When I pass a TxDOT highway construction area the activity reminds me of an old saying relating to the federal gubermnent’s WPA project. Perhaps you can relate to this:

“One a’coming, one a’going, one a’sh—ing, and one a’hoeing”.

If TxDOT would apply prudent “rules of engagement” concerning the private use of public cell phone service by their civil servants we would realize the saving of enough tax dollars to procure at least a couple of 6 cubic yard dump truck loads of gravel.

21 posted on 09/28/2007 5:54:21 AM PDT by CHEE (You don't have to practice to be miserable.)
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To: ElephantinTexas
I moved to San Antonio in 1968; during Hemisfair. At that time, there was already, well underway, a highway project to widen I-35 from 2 lanes to 3, between SA & Austin (apx 70 miles).

Here it is, 40 years later, and that project is still not complete.

When I was 5, I helped my grandfather lay a concrete sidewalk from his driveway to his front door. Based on that experience, I'm sure that if given a shovel & left alone, I could have finished that freeway by now.

22 posted on 09/28/2007 5:56:43 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: ElephantinTexas
We have a population that increases by a thousand people a day."

Send all the illegals home, and we will be back to normal. Less traffic, fewer wrecks and the roads won't wear out as fast.

23 posted on 09/28/2007 6:01:42 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: trubluolyguy; dfwright; Clayton; shadeaud; ravingnutter; txrangerette; evets; planekT; Cindy; ...

Good Morning, My FRiends!! I’ve been busy but I’m still around!

You’ve been PUNG!


24 posted on 09/28/2007 6:13:14 AM PDT by ElephantinTexas (But IF the Islamofascists win their war, they have no PLAN. Kinda like the DemokRATS.)
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To: BlabItGrabIt

But this time it is. Perry should be impeached by the Legis.


25 posted on 09/28/2007 6:35:39 AM PDT by Orange1998
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To: BlabItGrabIt

It’s the legislature that dirverted the funds not Perry.


26 posted on 09/28/2007 6:47:30 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: ElephantinTexas

What the.....

All the toll roads are not making enough money?


27 posted on 09/28/2007 6:58:25 AM PDT by Rangerstar
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To: laotzu
I-35 from 2 lanes to 3, between SA & Austin (apx 70 miles).

Wouldn't that be the feds?--not TXDot. I agree with you that it's a mess! I have a friend who uses "back roads" to drive from New Braunfels to Dallas.

28 posted on 09/28/2007 7:17:20 AM PDT by lonestar
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To: meyer
$1.5 billion sounds like a lot of money. Just as a for instance, I can see out my window the upgrade and widening of I-10 in west Houston (The Katy Freeway).

It's been in construction for close to 5 years already. It's probably got 3 or 4 years left. They are adding some badly needed lanes and overpasses - generally "modernizing" about a 18 mile strectch of freeway that was essentially unchanged from the mid-1960's. And even then, it was obsolete for the traffic it carried from the very first day.

It's done in stages. Two of the stages were barely over two miles of freeway, each. Like 2.1 and 2.3 miles, but don't quote me. The low bid for each stage was between 155 and 160 million. Simple math rounds that off to $75 million PER MILE. Of course that's for interstate specs - probably the most expensive way to construct a highway on the planet.

Nonetheless, a little more simple math shows that this 18 miles of freeway is in the neighborhood of 1.5 billion, all by itself. Now I agree with everyone that diverting this money to bike trails, and a few million to upgrade the governor's mansion all takes away from the bottom line. But let's look at the big picture. Losing a few million here and there, when we need untold billions to build, maintain, and expand our roads is a rounding error.

29 posted on 09/28/2007 7:30:38 AM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: laotzu

I moved to San Antonio in 1968; during Hemisfair. At that time, there was already, well underway, a highway project to widen I-35 from 2 lanes to 3, between SA & Austin (apx 70 miles).
Here it is, 40 years later, and that project is still not complete.


SOP...... There’s a stretch between Corsicana and Dallas on I-45 that they have been working to widen over the last many years and it’s still not complete.

TXDOT does a 6 - 8 mile section which takes 3 yrs or more to complete then moves to the next 6-8 mile section and the process repeats. At their pace it takes forever to complete a long section of highway.


30 posted on 09/28/2007 7:53:58 AM PDT by deport (>>>--Keep your powder dry--<<< [ Meanwhile:-- Cue Spooky Music--])
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To: TxCopper
They are remodeling the Governor’s Mansion...

Governor and first lady set to move into $1 million home TEXAS ^

Yup. Noted on FR. What a jerk. I sure am glad I didn't vote for him. 

31 posted on 09/28/2007 8:25:41 AM PDT by zeugma (Ubuntu - Linux for human beings)
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To: lonestar
I have a friend who uses "back roads" to drive from New Braunfels to Dallas.

It's the only way to travel IMO. Prettier drive too, though you have to watch out for the speed traps.

32 posted on 09/28/2007 8:29:32 AM PDT by zeugma (Ubuntu - Linux for human beings)
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To: Hydroshock
"For the umpteenth time my vote for Kinky is shown to be right."

Bump! I voted for him too.

33 posted on 09/28/2007 8:40:43 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: TxDOT; 1066AD; 185JHP; Abcdefg; Adrastus; Alamo-Girl; antivenom; AprilfromTexas; B4Ranch; B-Chan; ..

Trans-Texas Corridor PING!

The THIEVES have apparently won when it comes to diverting highway funds.


34 posted on 09/28/2007 2:57:44 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Oh, Geesh, not THIS crap AGAIN?!?)
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To: willgolfforfood

But the creeps (and even as a Marylander, I still can objectively call these critters creeps) have been stealing and pork-barreling to the tune of 1.5 billion. That’s considerably MORE than just a rounding error.


35 posted on 09/28/2007 3:07:09 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Oh, Geesh, not THIS crap AGAIN?!?)
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To: ElephantinTexas

Well TDOT just spent big bucks on thish shindig in Denver

https://www.regonline.com/custImages/245809/STD%20GPIC%2004%2030%2007%20in%20Word.doc


36 posted on 09/28/2007 3:32:20 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: ElephantinTexas

Hey ads cost money man. As an advertising wing of the Texas government TxDot has a tough enough jobs without having to spend on roads. We shouldn’t be too hard on them


37 posted on 09/28/2007 5:07:20 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: ElephantinTexas
Funnel project may be delayed

Road projects could be delayed

38 posted on 09/28/2007 6:23:02 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Oh, Geesh, not THIS crap AGAIN?!?)
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To: ElephantinTexas
TxDOT Says Rough Road Ahead For Traffic Relief Projects
39 posted on 09/28/2007 7:08:03 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Oh, Geesh, not THIS crap AGAIN?!?)
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To: Hydroshock
Where has the money gone?

Perry spends over a quarter million in gas taxes for his own security

40 posted on 09/29/2007 12:01:32 AM PDT by Sarajevo (Out of my mind. Back in five minutes.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BTTT


41 posted on 09/29/2007 3:05:50 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: ElephantinTexas; All
This is a power play by TXDOT. They couldn’t woe us with their $6 million taxpayer funded *public comfort* campaign so now, it’s *open wide* we’re shoving it down your throat.

This little tidbit exemplifies their underhanded tactics.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1903817/posts For you Austin area FReepers, if you've ever taken 183 north and tried to avoid the toll road, (going through Ceder Park) you will see what I mean. It's not only a bottleneck but, down right dangerous.

42 posted on 09/29/2007 6:06:11 AM PDT by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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