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Paul's call: end the IRS (Mod sez: No taxes of any kind! No war! Whoopee!)
Union Leader ^ | 9/30/07 | Garry Rayno

Posted on 09/30/2007 10:12:11 AM PDT by traviskicks

Edited on 09/30/2007 4:01:53 PM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

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To: dirtboy; Allegra; Petronski
Paul needs to be in a straitjacket, not a lab jacket.

For the price of one aircraft carrier, we could make a quadrillion doses of Thorazine.

21 posted on 09/30/2007 10:54:57 AM PDT by dighton
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To: traviskicks
Politically the IRS is an easy target, but the true culprit is the 16th amendment to the Constitution. Aside from allowing Congress to create the IRS and the truly indecipherable tax code it has done enormous damage to the founding principles of the country.

Those, like John McCain, who yearn for campaign finance control don’t reveal that it is the power given to congress through the 16th amendment that causes people to attempt to influence lawmakers with financial contributions. It’s not the money that corrupts it’s that power that people are trying to mitigate that corrupts. It also allows for the redistribution of income thereby segregating the population into payers and slackers. The class envy that ensues is corrosive.

The indecipherable tax code loosens citizens attachment to the country’s law. This disrespect for the law is the one place that the political institutions of the country are in most peril. President Lincoln pointed this out in his Lyceum Speech.

Although there is much to disagree with in the opinion of Congressman Paul, he is generally correct on this topic.

22 posted on 09/30/2007 10:56:27 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: billbears

Oh wow! YOU cannot answer a single question about Paul. Instead you simply put your hands over your ears and scream “no no no no” at every single question presented you!

Instead of answering every question about Paul with a absurd question back, actually answer the questions posed to you.

YOU people want us to support Paul. OK, simple question for any of you to answer. HOW is Paul going to do any of this?

See NO one is going to join you Paulbots when YOUR ONLY response to anyone who questions your god’s dogma is to spew bile at the questioner.

So answer this.

Simple challenge to you Paulites. With NO slogans. NO demagoguery. NO sliming everyone else who doesn’t share your faith. Tell me HOW Paul would do anything. Here is his “Issues page”. NOT a word about what or how he would do anything. Just a bunch of slogans strung together basically screaming bile at everyone and everything.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/

So, you Paulites want civility? Then explain to us WHAT and HOW a Paul Administration would do. Do that with OUT sliming any one. No name calling, no hysteric hyper emotive rhetoric. None of the usual Paulite personal attacks in place of reason argument. No cut and pasting of sound bite statements from Paul speeches. NO statements of what YOU think Paul means. REAL plans with documented links so we can read them for ourselves.


23 posted on 09/30/2007 10:59:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/ vrs the "Worse than Watergate Congress")
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To: dighton

TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


24 posted on 09/30/2007 11:00:14 AM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: dighton

GO,,,,,RON PAUL,,,,GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


25 posted on 09/30/2007 11:01:04 AM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: George W. Bush

Simple challenge to you Paulites. With NO slogans. NO demagoguery. NO sliming everyone else who doesn’t share your faith. Tell me HOW Paul would do anything. Here is his “Issues page”. NOT a word about what or how he would do anything. Just a bunch of slogans strung together basically screaming bile at everyone and everything.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/

See, you need us to support Dr Paul. We have no reason to support Dr Paul. So please explain to us WHAT and HOW a Paul Administration would do anything. Do that with OUT sliming any one. No name calling, no hysteric hyper emotive rhetoric. None of the usual Paulite personal attacks in place of reason argument. No cut and pasting of sound bite statements from Paul speeches. NO statements of what YOU think Paul means. REAL plans with documented links so we can read them for ourselves.


26 posted on 09/30/2007 11:01:24 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/ vrs the "Worse than Watergate Congress")
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To: dighton

Maybe we can feed the Thorazine to the wild shrimp. Make ‘em easier to catch.


27 posted on 09/30/2007 11:02:55 AM PDT by dirtboy (Ron Paul - shrimp pimp rock schlockster surrender crustacean)
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To: traviskicks
Look, this guys is calling for an end to the Federal Reserve the Department of Education and he's an anti-income tax, anti-foreign intervention commie.

He's against the North American Free Trade Agreement pro border security.

A great-grandfather who delivered more than 4,000 babies as a doctor in Texas, He voted against the Patriot Act he wants smaller government. This idiot even refused to accept government insurance such as Medicaid

As a lawmaker, he's chosen not to participate in the congressional pension program. Wow!

He says were on the verge of a bankruptcy, the dollar is crashing, the foreign policy's in shambles and the people's personal liberties are under attack, when we all know everything is wonderful under our current leadership.

He's living in the past, always talking about the principles of our founding fathers, cutting out government waste trim taxes bla bla bla...

He wants to gut government!

And he is pro-2nd Amendment?

LOL!

What a wacko!

28 posted on 09/30/2007 11:03:52 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dirtboy
I'm ,,, telling PETA ,,,, on u.

GOOOOOOOOOO RON PAUL GOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

29 posted on 09/30/2007 11:04:56 AM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: MNJohnnie

I believe income tax only accounts for 1/3rd of federal revenues, just cut gov spending back to 2000 levels and we’d be fine.


30 posted on 09/30/2007 11:05:02 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: MNJohnnie
YOU people want us to support Paul. OK, simple question for any of you to answer. HOW is Paul going to do any of this?

LOL, gotta love the village idiot. The issues have been explained to you several times. Matter of fact it, many of the issues were discussed in detail on a very thread you were on with someone that amazingly doesn't even support Rep. Paul's positions. And yet you posted this same exact thing. Admit it, you've got it copied on a word document so you can just paste it in place don't you.

So yes sonny, it has been explained. But keep C+Ping the same tired response will you? And go back to your crowd so you can crow 'he didn't answer, he didn't answer' even though I, and others, have on other threads.

Then explain to us WHAT and HOW a Paul Administration would do

I've got one for you. How about you explain how your candidate (whoever the hell that may be) is going to do everything he plans to do.

31 posted on 09/30/2007 11:05:10 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: traviskicks

A chicken in every pot!


32 posted on 09/30/2007 11:06:18 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: dragnet2
He's against the Iraq War, is full of talk but his actions either aren't there or are hypocritical, such as his shrimp earmarks.

At a time of war, we need action, not yack.

33 posted on 09/30/2007 11:06:23 AM PDT by dirtboy (Ron Paul - shrimp pimp rock schlockster surrender crustacean)
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To: Lead Moderator; All

why was the title of this thread altered?


34 posted on 09/30/2007 11:06:28 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: billbears

well said. amazing that abolition of the irs is considered ‘radical’ on a conservative forum


35 posted on 09/30/2007 11:08:21 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: traviskicks

Interesting that every response by ‘conservatives’ opposed to Paul here is either disagreeing that disbanding the IRS is a good idea (yep, they’re ‘conservatives’ all right) or unable put forth anything but a diatribe about Paul and his followers as ‘Paulbots’ or some other insulting comment.

Not that there’s anything wrong with being all for the IRS, or unable to form a cogent argument. However, folks that fall into those categories are generally allied with the jackass party.

I’m sure it’s just a coincidence.


36 posted on 09/30/2007 11:08:50 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Desperate for another George P. Bush-endorsed CFR 'conservative' in DC? Vote Fred!)
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To: traviskicks

2008 GOP Platform:

Eliminate the federal income tax and replace it with a national sales tax.

Term Limits


37 posted on 09/30/2007 11:09:07 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: ExtremeUnction
Me too. I know some folks on FR like this guy, but he's just another version of Ralph Nader.

Or Lyndon La Rouche.

38 posted on 09/30/2007 11:09:09 AM PDT by Allegra (The Surge Works While the Democrats "Betray Us.")
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To: ExtremeUnction
Who is Ron Paul? Here is a picture of him:


39 posted on 09/30/2007 11:09:34 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Tagline:(Optional, printed after your name on post0:)
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To: traviskicks; billbears
THANK YOU! Thank you for proving my point about you Paulbots. You cannot answer a single serious question. All you can do is emote.

Paulbots "answer" to everything:

"Ignore all facts and reality, just drink the Paulaid you stupid infidels".

40 posted on 09/30/2007 11:10:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/ vrs the "Worse than Watergate Congress")
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