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Paul's call: end the IRS (Mod sez: No taxes of any kind! No war! Whoopee!)
Union Leader ^ | 9/30/07 | Garry Rayno

Posted on 09/30/2007 10:12:11 AM PDT by traviskicks

Edited on 09/30/2007 4:01:53 PM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

Manchester – Calls to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and repeal the Constitutional amendment that established the federal income tax drew loud applause yesterday for Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul.

The Texas Congressman drew an eclectic mix of more than 500 supporters -- young and old, Libertarians and anti-war Democrats, independents and conservative Republicans -- who cheered his message of limited government, low taxes, free markets, bringing the troops home from Iraq, and returning to a monetary policy based on the gold standard.

Paul said the gathering at Veterans Park wasn't about him, but about his message -- which, he said, has been resonating with more and more people.

"Something very significant is happening in this country today. The paradigm is shifting away from government controlling our lives by force," he said. "People are sick and tired of what's happening and want to control (their) own lives."

He said people should be able to keep 100 percent of the fruits of their labor. Income tax is an example of the government controlling people, he said, as are the draft, prohibition on drugs, seat belt laws and other regulations.

Paul said current monetary policy amounts to a "secret sinister tax" that takes wealth from the middle class and poor, and redistributes money to Wall Street and the wealthy. The crowd broke into applause when he said the federal reserve system should be abolished.

Earlier in the day, Paul told three New Hampshire reporters he hoped to turn the enthusiasm his campaign has generated -- through the Internet, in "meet-ups" and through campaign donations -- into votes.

The physician-turned-politician said he expects to spend more and more time in New Hampshire. "The slogan on your license plate would indicate this should be fertile ground for us here," he said, alluding to the state's "Live Free or Die" motto.

Paul said he is running on the same policies President Bush advocated when he ran in 2000, which, he added, are the same ones Republicans have run on for years: a balanced budget, limited government, personal freedom and no nation building.

"Most Republicans -- the leadership in Washington -- don't believe in their own platform; that's why they are losing," Paul said.

Rather than try to spread democracy around the world, he said, politicians ought to focus on some of the shortcomings in this country.

"You don't get a fair shake unless you join the establishment," he said.

Paul, who ran for President in 1988 as the Libertarian Party's nominee, said it's more practical to run as a Republican, noting he spent half of his money in 1988 just trying to get on the ballot in all 50 states.

The door-to-door canvassing that followed the rally -- dubbed the Paul Family Walk -- included about 30 family members who led groups of campaigners in the Queen City, Concord and Nashua. Paul himself visited New England College, Dartmouth College and the Dartmouth Medical School after the rally.

Liz Viering and her husband Peter, from Stonington, Conn., said Paul's opposition to the war in Iraq is the major reason they are supporting him. "Money spent on wars of choice takes money away from other programs," she said.

Miles LaPlant, a 21-year old college student from Attleboro, Mass., said Paul is the first candidate who has captured his attention. LaPlant said he likes Paul's stances regarding the Constitution and the country's founding principles.

Jason Kantz, his wife, Angela, and their two children came up from Cambridge, Mass., for the rally. Kantz said Paul "is the only candidate that gives logical answers and means what he says."

He said Paul's stand on the war in Iraq is also an important issue for him. "We need to reduce our involvement around the world and the amount of money we are spending," Kantz said.

Long-time Libertarian Party member Dennis Corrigan of Boxford, Mass., said he supported Paul when the Congressman ran for President as the Libertarian nominee. He said he has been a Libertarian for 40 years and headed the party in Canada at one time.

Corrigan and a friend were soliticiting signatures for a Massachusetts ballot initiative outlawing the income tax. Corrigan said his friend moved to New Hampshire as part of the Free State Project, adding that he plans to move to the state, as well.

Thomas Clark, Minister of the Somersworth Tri-City Convenant Church, gave the invocation for the rally. Before the rally, he said he supports Paul because of his pro-life stance. "The pro-life issue is a major issue for me," Clark said.

Paul concluded the rally by encouraging his supporters to keep the faith, saying most mass movements have been driven by only 2 or 3 percent of the population.

"You are part of that 3 percent today," he said.

A word from Jim Robinson to the moonbats:

"It is funny and sad to see FR become “Defend Big Guv And Like It Republic.” Something is in the water along the lines of the following formula: “Big Gov execesses are necessary in times of war; we will always be at war with “terror”; ergo, Big Guv will always be necessary so hug it and put an “R” after it.”

To all antiwar moonbats, Paulistas included:

Hey, if you don't like FR and or our support the war policies leave. Go find a website that supports your unfortunate, short-sighted and misguided antiwar efforts. It's really that simple.

In case you antiwar Paulistas haven't noticed, Free Republic supports the war effort 100%. Many of our chapters protest against the antiwar moonbats either weekly, monthly or whenever the opportunity arises. The DC Chapter has been protesting against the antiwar moonbats EVERY Friday night at Walter Reed for three years.

Free Republic has co-sponsored several cross country caravans and hundreds of rallies in cities all across the country and in DC against the antiwar moonbats and in support of our Commander-in-chief, our troops, the war effort and our Gold Star and Blue Star families, many of whom are FReepers.

When you are supporting antiwar moonbats you are working against Free Republic's mission, hurting our efforts, hurting our families who have lost loved ones or have loved ones involved in the fighting, hurting our troops, damaging their morale, working against our efforts to defeat the enemy, and, in fact, giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

Antiwar moonbats are the domestic enemy. Antiwar moonbats willingly give aid and comfort to the enemy during wartime. In my book, that's tantamount to treason. Ron Paul is an antiwar moonbat. You figure it out. If antiwar moonbats are the enemy and Ron Paul is an aid and comfort supplying antiwar moonbat, then Ron Paul IS the enemy!

If you Paulistas are looking for support on FR for an antiwar moonbat who is giving aid and comfort to our enemies, you're nuts! Free Republic will NEVER support antiwar moonbats!

As far as our official policy on Ron Paul is concerned, it's the same policy we have for his antiwar moonbat allies the traitors Harry Reid, Chuckie Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Jack Murtha, Cindy Sheehan, Barbara Streisand, Jane Fonda, CodePink, International Answer, et al and their flaming antiwar spam monkeys. Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!

Where the hell did you guys ever get the idea that enemy supporting antiwar moonbats would be welcome on FR?

That plain enough for you or do I need to spell it out?

168 posted on 09/30/2007 6:22:47 PM EDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)


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1 posted on 09/30/2007 10:12:15 AM PDT by traviskicks
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To: Abram; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...
"He said people should be able to keep 100 percent of the fruits of their labor. Income tax is an example of the government controlling people, he said, as are the draft, prohibition on drugs, seat belt laws and other regulations."




Libertarian ping! To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.
2 posted on 09/30/2007 10:14:19 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: traviskicks
A perfect depiction of the Paulites.


3 posted on 09/30/2007 10:14:49 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: George W. Bush; OrthodoxPresbyterian

ping


4 posted on 09/30/2007 10:15:13 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: traviskicks

Who’s Ron Paul?


5 posted on 09/30/2007 10:23:44 AM PDT by Terrence DoGood
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To: NapkinUser; DreamsofPolycarp; The_Eaglet; Irontank; Gamecock; elkfersupper; dcwusmc; gnarledmaw; ...

ping to abolish the IRS...


6 posted on 09/30/2007 10:25:19 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: traviskicks
He said people should be able to keep 100 percent of the fruits of their labor.

Tell me Ron Paul, do you enjoy having a military to defend you? That costs money. Do you enjoy sending out letters and having them get to were you want them to go? That costs money. Do you want police to patrol your street, firemen to put out those fires, sanitation inspectors to make sure that Sushi restaraunt you love is up to code, and Air Marshals to make sure planes are safe? Well then, pony up some taxes, cause things don't come free.
7 posted on 09/30/2007 10:25:36 AM PDT by SoldierMedic (Rowan Walter, 23 Feb 2007 Ramadi)
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To: traviskicks
Liz Viering and her husband Peter, from Stonington, Conn., said Paul's opposition to the war in Iraq is the major reason they are supporting him. "Money spent on wars of choice takes money away from other programs," she said.

That just doesn't sound conservative; the speaker sounds like a big-government fan who can't bring herself to support Dennis Kuicinch.

8 posted on 09/30/2007 10:26:19 AM PDT by Bernard (The only fair tax is the tax that taxes you and not me.)
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To: traviskicks
Who’s Ron Paul?

Me too. I know some folks on FR like this guy, but he's just another version of Ralph Nader. I mean, let's get real. This guy will never get any votes.

9 posted on 09/30/2007 10:27:40 AM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: traviskicks
"Money spent on wars of choice takes money away from other programs," she said.

A lot of good your socialist programs are going to do you if you're dead at the hands of terrorists, lady.

10 posted on 09/30/2007 10:29:56 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The Pledge For America's Revival" - Alan Keyes 2008 - www.AlanKeyes.com)
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To: traviskicks
"Money spent on wars of choice takes money away from other programs," she said.

Liberals think fighting this war is optional.

11 posted on 09/30/2007 10:30:56 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The Pledge For America's Revival" - Alan Keyes 2008 - www.AlanKeyes.com)
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To: ExtremeUnction


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12 posted on 09/30/2007 10:31:44 AM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: traviskicks
Paul's call: end the IRS

Congressman Paul is conspicuously light on providing the details of how he would then fund the legitimate functions of government.

Demagoguing the IRS and the current stupid system might be fun, but is not exactly helpful if you don't have a replacement that is in line with constitutional principles and the realities of a modern economy and nation.

13 posted on 09/30/2007 10:35:17 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The Pledge For America's Revival" - Alan Keyes 2008 - www.AlanKeyes.com)
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To: George W. Bush
even a stopped clock is correct twice a day

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14 posted on 09/30/2007 10:39:17 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: SoldierMedic
Tell me Ron Paul, do you enjoy having a military to defend you?

Why would he need a military to defend him? He feels as long as we appease our enemies enough they will never attack us. Then if they do attack us all he will want to do is surrender anyway. What does he need a military for?
15 posted on 09/30/2007 10:40:41 AM PDT by rideharddiefast
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To: CheyennePress

Paul needs to be in a straitjacket, not a lab jacket.


16 posted on 09/30/2007 10:41:25 AM PDT by dirtboy (Ron Paul - shrimp pimp rock schlockster surrender crustacean)
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To: SoldierMedic
Tell me Ron Paul, do you enjoy having a military to defend you? That costs money

And yet mysteriously we had a military before the income tax. How did they do that?!?

Do you enjoy sending out letters and having them get to were you want them to go? That costs money.

Wow, you know we even had a postal service before the income tax too don't you? And yet today we have private industry who is able to surpass the government postal entity in quality of service and speed of service.

Do you want police to patrol your street, firemen to put out those fires, sanitation inspectors to make sure that Sushi restaraunt you love is up to code, and Air Marshals to make sure planes are safe?

Police and fire are local entities (and even those are being replaced in areas by private companies doing the job for a service charge). Sanitation inspectors? Again, a local service and not sure regulation has worked in more than a few instances anyway.

Air Marshals?!? LOL, oh yes because we can't have anyone but a gubmint worker to carry while on a plane. Dr. Paul has advocated pilots to be armed, so again yet another private solution.

17 posted on 09/30/2007 10:41:42 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: EternalVigilance
Demagoguing the IRS and the current stupid system might be fun, but is not exactly helpful if you don't have a replacement that is in line with constitutional principles and the realities of a modern economy and nation.

Details, details...

18 posted on 09/30/2007 10:49:12 AM PDT by dirtboy (Ron Paul - shrimp pimp rock schlockster surrender crustacean)
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To: traviskicks
OK. NICE slogans.

HOW does Paul plan to do any of this. What replaces the IRS? Or do you all assume we can simply put a “closed” sign on the whole US Govt?.

OH, that right! In your angst to hate everything and everybody, you Paulbots forgot all the things you WANT the Govt to do. Things like Border Security. the Military. The FBI etc.

It not 1776. You Paulbots got to finally grow up and deal with the world AS IT IS, not as you delude yourself into thinking it can be.

19 posted on 09/30/2007 10:50:02 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/ vrs the "Worse than Watergate Congress")
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To: billbears

War is not healthy for shrimp and other living things. Wild shrimp should be able to roam freely without fear.


20 posted on 09/30/2007 10:51:52 AM PDT by dirtboy (Ron Paul - shrimp pimp rock schlockster surrender crustacean)
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