Posted on 09/30/2007 10:12:11 AM PDT by traviskicks
Edited on 09/30/2007 4:01:53 PM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
Is that such a bad idea?
I am a Paul suporter but agree with you that Paul is a "flaming nut." He must be to turn down his Congressional pension, I mean how wacko can you get in our society to turn down "free money!" He should be a straight jacket for that sin, right?
No, FR is the WIN THE WAR site. Been that way ever since 9-11. And no Paulnutz are gonna change that.
“What replaces the IRS? Or do you all assume we can simply put a closed sign on the whole US Govt?.”
Actually nothing. A third of our government is paid for by the IRS. Cutting a third of the government cost would amount to the spending levels in 2000. I think we could cut a third of our budget and not have the govt shut down. Imagine the boost to the economy if you didn’t have to pay to Uncle Sam every day.
So would they take if not granted rights to resources, kind of like the armies of the past used to do? Just take whatever the army needs, even if they don't have any rights to it?
Who cares if everything in the private sector is downsized or shipped over to Wescrewutoo China, while flooding our own country with tens of millions with 3rd grade educations, that are so happy making 7 bucks an hour they get drunk every night.
Here, have some of this lovely wild shrimp with a Thorazine-Horseradish cocktail sauce
Oh, what a great, laser guided, knuckle busting cutting edge response!
Dude...you need to step away from the bong for a while.
You and most Paulites don’t deserve any more of a response. Later.
She has a better chance of getting hit by lightening...and a much better chance of dying in an automobile accident.
What you are referring to is room and board, I think. That is what militaries did in the past. That’s hardly a need of american military. Today’s military needs fuel and ammo. How many private citizens own raw materials to produce fuel and ammo? No, private citizens would not suffer from my idea.
More then 900 articles and speechs by Ron Paul
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Taxes, Spending, and Debt are the Real Issues
October 16, 2006
In Washington we hear a lot of talk about tax cuts, but the rhetoric does not always match the reality. For most Americans, taxes remain too complex and too high. After the tumult of the upcoming midterm election, it is imperative that Congress gets back to basics and addresses our terrible tax system.
Lower taxes benefit all Americans by increasing economic growth and encouraging wealth creation. Im in favor of cutting everybodys taxes rich, poor, and otherwise. Whether a tax cut reduces a single mothers payroll taxes by forty dollars a month, or allows a business owner to save thousands in capital gains and hire more employees, the net effect is beneficial. Both either spend, save, or invest the extra dollars, which helps all of us more than if those dollars were sent to the black hole known as the federal Treasury.
Many conservatives have touted the Fair Tax proposal as an issue in the upcoming election. A pure consumption tax like the Fair Tax would be better than the current system only if we truly did away with the income tax by repealing the 16th amendment. Otherwise, we could end up with both the income tax and a national sales tax. A consumption tax also provides more transparency and less complexity. But the real issue is total spending by government, not tax reform. In other words, why change the tax structure if spending stays the same? Once we accept that the federal government needs $2.7 trillion from us— and more each year— the only question left is from whom it will be collected. Until the federal government is held to its proper constitutionally limited functions, tax reform will remain a mirage.
I apply a very simple test to any proposal to overhaul the tax code: Does it reduce or eliminate an existing tax? If not, then it amounts to nothing more than a political shell game that pits taxpayers against each other in a lobbying scramble to make sure the other guy pays. True tax reform is as simple as cutting or eliminating taxes. No studies, panels, committees, or hearings are needed. When reform proposals seem complicated, they almost certainly dont cut taxes. Congress should simply focus on cutting existing taxes and reducing spending, instead of complicated overhauls of the system.
The question to ask yourself is this: What would I do with the money withheld from my paycheck each month? The answer is simple: you would spend, save, or invest the money, all of which do more for the economy and society than sending it to Washington. Thanks to the deception of income tax withholding, however, some people actually look forward to tax time and a much-anticipated refund. Imagine how quickly Americans would demand lower taxes and spending if they had to write the federal government a check each month!
Tax relief is important, but members of Congress need to back up tax cuts with spending cuts- and they need to vote NO on every wasteful appropriations bill until we start over with the federal budget. True fiscal conservatism combines both low taxes and low spending.
Cutting spending would not be hard if Congress simply showed the political will to tackle the problem. Im not talking about cutting the rate at which government spending grows, but cutting the actual amount of money spent by the federal government in a single year.
If federal spending grows at 5% rather than 7% one year, thats hardly a great achievement on the part of Congress. The current federal budget of around $2.7 trillion could be cut to $2.5 trillion quite easily. The vast majority of Americans would not even notice. But we must begin chipping away at the federal budget if we hope to address the underlying problem of government debt.
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Wow, Dr. Zoidberg is pissed! Does he even get to vote for President?
Just how much money was given to Ron Paul's shrimp earmarks (that he voted against, BTW)?
i'll wait for your answer...
Glad to see such an intelligent discussion of the issues from you. /S
What has that to do with Ron Paul? Last i checked, George W. Bush was the President when that Happened.
The minute that Dr Paul went off reservation and turned Kucinich like he was done in my book. No matter how reasonable any of his other thoughts may sound, that was the turning point. Many at work were in fact considering Dr. Paul until he went Kucinich on the war.
“I think we need more taxes to help pay for their retirement pensions and their life styles. We need more government and more control?”
Alright, Sgt. Friday...step away from the Jack Daniels! LOL
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