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To: yorkie; Caipirabob

Anything that can be done to stop the irresponsible developement going on in this state, I’m all for. The infrastructure and economic makeup of the state cannot support the unrestrained developement. There are not new jobs being created in the developing areas, except for retail, which means that the primary breadwinner has to commute on highways that were overburdoned in the seventies. The developers come in and, with minimal cost, raise the tax liability (in excess of the increase of the tax base) of the community, the cost of which is passed on to existing homeowners. The developer walks away without paying anything near his fair share for the cost of additional classrooms, highway widening and municiple (county and state) services. Impact fees that would cover this are legal, but the political structure in NJ is such that the crooks that run it are wont to pass such laws, as it would effect their “campaign” contributions (both above and below the table).

“But the developers provide jobs.” is a lame justification of the developement. Several of the larger (ie:national and regional) developers promote the establishment of shadow companies that act as subcontractors. Entire carpenter crews are made up of Eastern Europeans and drywall crews made up of Mexicans (legal, illegal? I don’t know) and most of their money leaves the country. There are also a handfull of smaller local developers who will hire small subcontractors, finish a developement, file bankruptcy, pay subs pennies on the dollar, start a new corporation and start the cycle all over again. (most of these are politically connected).

With a population density higher than anywhere else in the country, the idea of allowing the state economy based on housing contruction (they’re not making more land), retail or even warehouses is ridiculous. These are all large land use and offer low volumes of employment. If you want to build a refinary, a steel mill or a factory of any kind, I’m all for it. If you want to bulldoze Camden and rebuild it, feel free.

One more arguement against developement:
WE DON”T NEED ANY MORE LIBERALS FROM PHILLY OR NEW YORK MOVING IN. WE HAVE ENOUGH CROOKS ALREADY.

To:Caipirabob

I’ve lived in New Jersey all my life and have yet to meet any native who spoke with a Brooklyn or Bronx accent. They call it Joisey, we don’t.


22 posted on 10/01/2007 10:19:15 AM PDT by Free_SJersey (THE GOVERNMENT THAT GOVERNS LEAST, GOVERNS BEST.)
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To: Free_SJersey
Only place where folks speak with an outer borough accent consistently is/was Hoboken.

Folks from "Nork" like my dad have a similar accent, though not identical. Even my grandparents from Jersey Sh-tty didn't "tawk like dis."

24 posted on 10/01/2007 10:30:12 AM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Free_SJersey
If you want to build a refinary, a steel mill or a factory of any kind, I’m all for it.

Not gonna happen:

1. Land is WAY TOO EXPENSIVE. There is a good reason why most factories are in the South or the lower midwest these days.

2. NOBODY wants to live next to a factory.

25 posted on 10/01/2007 10:32:38 AM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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