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HILLARY'S INCOME TRANSFER SCHEME
Nealz Nuze/WSB Radio ^ | 1 OIctober 2007 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 10/01/2007 7:44:01 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20

HILLARY'S INCOME TRANSFER SCHEME

You've heard the latest, haven't you? This one came out last Friday afternoon. Hillary (please sit down) wants for the federal government to "give" every baby born in America a $5,000 account that can start growing and earning interest so that by the time this kid turns 18 they'll have money to go to college.

No .. I'm not kidding. She actually came out with this idea at a speech before a Congressional Black Caucus forum. It's a brand new entitlement program, courtesy of Hillary Clinton.

Just think about it! Download a baby, and presto!, the taxpayers owe your new child a cool five thousand! This is pure Hillary Clinton. This is a woman who believes that America is government. If government decides that every new baby gets five grand, then that's all there is to it. Every new baby gets five grand.

Where does it come from? Oh, come on now. Ask Hillary and she'll just tell you it comes from the government. If you ask her where the government is going to get the money, she'll prattle on about repealing the Bush tax cuts or some such nonsense. Bottom line? A new entitlement program. Here's your birth certificate, here's $5,000, and welcome to America!

Let me tell you how Hillary's idiotic little income redistribution idea is going to work out in real life --- after, that is, the young single women of this country make her our next president.

First we'll have to figure out whether or not the five grand baby bonus will be paid to a baby born in this country of illegal aliens. Well of course it would! After all, the baby's a citizen, isn't he? We certainly don't want to discriminate. So .. here's a scenario that will become all-too common. Consuelo lives in Tijuana. Consuelo is pregnant .. bulging, wide-eyed pregnant. Sus roturas del agua. Consuelo heads for the border ... eager to get to the emergency room of a U.S. hospital. And why would that be? Why, so her baby can get it's $5,000, that's why? You couldn't figure that out on your own? Must be government educated. Pity. Another question. Just how will the parents be able to invest the baby's money?

You can be sure there will be restrictions. Maybe this would be a good time to resurrect the Democrat's idea of "economically targeted investments." Maybe the law would say that you could only invest the money in stocks of a company that is deemed to be "union friendly!" Or maybe it could only be invested in savings institutions that show the politically correct inclination to make loans to minorities with bad credit and job histories!

How would the baby bonus play out around election time? Well, that's a simple enough question to answer. The Democrats would have two stock campaign tactics ready for each election: (1) Vote for me and I'll raise the baby bonus to $6000! A sure winner with every pregnant or hoping-to-be pregnant voter out there. (2) Vote for a Republican and they're going to take your baby bonus away!

What happens when spending gets a little tight? This one's simple also. Democrats will suggest that the baby bonus get phased out for people in upper income brackets. In other words, stiff the high achievers. In order to increase the baby bonus for lower and middle income parents, the Democrats will phase it out for the minority who earn the higher incomes. The math is so simple you should be able to figure it out even if you went to a government school. There are more households who make under $200,000 a year in this country than there are those who make more. Cut off the baby bonus for the evil rich, increase it for the poor and middle income types --- and the votes come rolling in.

Remember Hillary shrieking "I want to take those profits" after Exxon Mobile posted a rather hefty profit figure? Sure she wants to take those profits. She already thinks they belong to her anyway! This is a woman who harbors a gut belief that every penny you earn belongs to the federal government. You are to be allowed to keep just enough of what you earn to keep you fat and reasonably complacent. Beyond that, it's hers, and she will throw it around the way she pleases.

Hold tight, my friends. There's sure to be more Hillary absurdities on the way.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; clinton; corruption; democratparty; elections; hillary; votebuying
Blatant votebuying pandering. God, wht an evil woman!!!!!
1 posted on 10/01/2007 7:44:07 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Who is John Galt?


2 posted on 10/01/2007 7:47:21 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

January 20, 2009. A good day to retire.


4 posted on 10/01/2007 7:48:00 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mitt bit the apple. Hillary will stuff it down your throat!)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

The kids proably wouldn’t get the $5 thou... It would be placed in a lockbox, along with our Social Security.


5 posted on 10/01/2007 7:48:41 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Hey Crackheads!

Have a baby, get $5,000, sell the baby to an adoption mill!

Yeehaw! Crack is back!


6 posted on 10/01/2007 7:49:12 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mitt bit the apple. Hillary will stuff it down your throat!)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

She might as well have put a full-page ad in every Third World newspaper inviting people to come here illegally and have babies. I never read that this bribe would be paid to legal U.S. citizens only, but to all comers. Mrs. Clinton has devised a major improvement on the current anchor-baby incentive program. She will not be happy until she has ruined every taxpayer in the country. Redistribution of wealth is at the core of this, I have no doubt.


7 posted on 10/01/2007 7:49:16 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Yup, but she isn’t the first with this proposal. One of her competitors (Osama? Brownback?) proposed the same thing 2 or 3 months back.


8 posted on 10/01/2007 7:50:29 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

IIRC, the genesis for this idea came from material educating the public on the benefit of compound rates of return. Of course, why should a family set aside their own money when someone else is ready to hand over someone else’s money in return for a vote.


9 posted on 10/01/2007 7:51:39 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

It’s an old George McGovern idea, IIRC.


10 posted on 10/01/2007 7:52:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (https://www.fred08.com/contribute.aspx?RefererID=c637caaa-315c-4b4c-9967-08d864cd0791)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s an old Karl Marx idea. She is simply for a redistribution of wealth. She wants to redistribute YOUR wealth to all of these people that she is pandering to.


11 posted on 10/01/2007 7:54:02 AM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

This going to be PANDERFEST 2008, back up by 1/2 BILLION DOLLARS from Unions and Soros...

Get ready, it’s just beginning....


12 posted on 10/01/2007 7:55:18 AM PDT by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: Uncle Miltie

If a women goes on baby birthing drugs and has 8 kids, will she get a check for $40g?


13 posted on 10/01/2007 7:57:26 AM PDT by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: Uncle Miltie
"Yeehaw! Crack is back!"

But Whitney said crack is wack....

14 posted on 10/01/2007 7:57:53 AM PDT by libs_kma (www.imwithfred.com)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Then she would tax the 5K and all of it’s interest through the life of the baby. Remember, the Dimocrats are the ones who came up with the tax on Social Security.


15 posted on 10/01/2007 7:58:13 AM PDT by mortal19440
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To: Turret Gunner A20

So, would one have to have a “Procreation License” to be eligible? Of course, when someone became pregnant without such license, we can just have them get an abortion right?

The socialists want to legislate every other facet of the life process, why not conception?


16 posted on 10/01/2007 7:58:55 AM PDT by IamConservative (Only two have offered to die for a stranger; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

She’s a communist. Any questions?


17 posted on 10/01/2007 7:59:20 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Turret Gunner A20
No question this would result in alien women pouring across the border, even more so than they are now. Quite the incentive.

However, what isn't stated is the also inevitable effect this would have on the existing American lower classes. Illegitimacy, teenage pregnancy, much larger single-mom family sizes, etc. would skyrocket in poor rural and urban areas as poor young women everywhere attempted to "cash in". In short, the insidious incentives in Hitlery's proposal would have enormous detrimental consequences on a number of fronts - not just for illegals.

18 posted on 10/01/2007 8:01:14 AM PDT by MCH
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Hey, Hillary! Conservatives have babies, Liberals abort theirs.

Thanks, but no thanks anyway!


19 posted on 10/01/2007 8:01:44 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mitt bit the apple. Hillary will stuff it down your throat!)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Hillary Chavez.


20 posted on 10/01/2007 8:05:01 AM PDT by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Hillary’s idiotic little income redistribution idea is going to work out in real life -— after, that is,

That’s how the Democrat Majority Press like to do it too, tell Americans how stupid they are, ‘after’ it is too late.


21 posted on 10/01/2007 8:09:54 AM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Member of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

You are right about means testing. Ironically she is claiming this money goes to the kid, but she will means test the parents not the kid. So illegals (anchor babies ) will get the money, being born americans, by illegal parents, but americans parents (of americans) will get means tested, to cut off their kids, but will pay the taxes for this.

Democrats learned along time ago that any money the government gives to people (Versus us keeping our money, like with private savings accounts) will corrupt the people morally when it comes to other social handouts. This includes the mexican anchor babies who will get this. Republicans either havent figured this out or think they can join the democratic socialist slavemasters. The recent child health care bill is another example of this. More proof is all the high educated professionals that get rich off of federal research around the DC area, that pay massive taxes, but have souls are owned by the democratic party(voted for Kerry, + Governor O’Malley Maryland, against Michelle Steel as Senator).


22 posted on 10/01/2007 8:12:29 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Are libs really as dumb as they act??(maybe they just assume we are that dumb))
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To: 3AngelaD
She might as well have put a full-page ad in every Third World newspaper inviting people to come here illegally and have babies. I never read that this bribe would be paid to legal U.S. citizens only, but to all comers.

I think that it won't work here in the United States for exactly that reason, but believe it or not, this idea of cash for kids is not an original one to Ms. Clinton --- some other countries also have considered or implemented such programs. France has a program and is particularly generous for three or more children (more than $960 per month for the first year); Cyprus recently discussed birth bonuses up to 23,000 euros (more than $30,000); Japan has such programs; Germany has a salary replacement scheme.

23 posted on 10/01/2007 8:14:04 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: Turret Gunner A20

There is no doubt that Fat Bottomed Girl has the tw@t vote sewn up!


24 posted on 10/01/2007 8:14:11 AM PDT by sauropod (You canít spell crap without the AP in it.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20
Remember Hillary shrieking "I want to take those profits" after Exxon Mobile posted a rather hefty profit figure? Sure she wants to take those profits. She already thinks they belong to her anyway! This is a woman who harbors a gut belief that every penny you earn belongs to the federal government. You are to be allowed to keep just enough of what you earn to keep you fat and reasonably complacent. Beyond that, it's hers, and she will throw it around the way she pleases.

The author has nailed it precisely here. Leftists--both the principled variety and the panderers (and Hillary is clearly the latter) hew to the fundamental belief that government is the ultimate owner of all money; those who earn (or, worse yet, inherit) it are mere temporary possessors of the money, which government may re-claim and redistribute at its own whim.

25 posted on 10/01/2007 8:15:30 AM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: Holicheese
If a women goes on baby birthing drugs and has 8 kids, will she get a check for $40g?

Whoa! That never even crossed my mind - and I'm very cynical. Obviously I need MORE COFFEE
26 posted on 10/01/2007 8:15:30 AM PDT by ninergold3 (Don't like my attitude? Then get one of your own!)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

If you vote for me I will give you 5K....!!!!!!...Vote buying????..........


27 posted on 10/01/2007 8:16:59 AM PDT by GitmoSailor (AZ Cold War Vet==I'Am With Fred==Please donate to FREE REPUBLIC)
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To: Turret Gunner A20
"Blatant votebuying pandering. God, wht an evil woman!!!!!"

About as evil as her husband pandering to the middle-class with his promise of a "middle-class taxcut." The best part was once he was inaugurated, that promise went by the wayside. He claimed the deficit was much larger than the figures he'd been provided by the budget office, and although he had "worked hard" to be able to give the cut, it just wasn't possible. Instead, he proposed the biggest tax increase in history.

I see this pandering as nothing more than another Clinton ruse. If Hillary is elected, she'll pull the same lame excuse, saying that she wishes she could give the $5,000 award to every new baby, but because of the war costs, blah, blah, blah, it just isn't possible. They are so predictable, it's pathetic.

28 posted on 10/01/2007 8:17:07 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: Turret Gunner A20
Yep, it's vote buying, redistribution of wealth, communism, pandering.

Combined with public education, it's planned destruction of the poor and middle class family, (like the government destruction of the black family), and it's the new slavery for all.

If the suckers think they are going to get five grand, they are in for a surprise. It'll cost them far more in taxes than they get when the kid's 18, but then they won't even learn to spell ekunamics in government school, they'll think it's a yuppie exercise.

29 posted on 10/01/2007 8:20:18 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (The hyphen American with the loudest whine gets the grease.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

I see Hillary really thought this on through.


30 posted on 10/01/2007 8:26:16 AM PDT by SWEETSUNNYSOUTH (Help stamp out liberalism!)
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To: shankbear
It’s an old Karl Marx idea. She is simply for a redistribution of wealth. She wants to redistribute YOUR wealth to all of these people that she is pandering to.

Paraphrasing... 1835 or thereabouts:

The noble experiment will collapse and disintegrate when its integrity is destroyed as politicians discover that they can buy the ignorant voters with their own money...
Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

31 posted on 10/01/2007 8:30:29 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: ninergold3

I have no children and I don’t want to have kids. Why is it that I have to pay for other kids schools, health care insurance and now a Baby Birthin’ Check?

How can anyone with a straight face agree with this hairbrained idea?


32 posted on 10/01/2007 8:32:00 AM PDT by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

I remember now. A few months ago: Soem whack-job in California made this proposal: that at birth, a child gets a savings bond towards his/her education. Parents were to put in some monthly deposit as well... of course, no one wanted to say who was gonna come up with all that $$. Hillary has hijacked the idea.


33 posted on 10/01/2007 8:38:04 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Holicheese
How can anyone with a straight face agree with this hairbrained idea?

There is no explaining the combination of delusional superiority, ignorance, demagoguery and total indifference to unintended consequences...

34 posted on 10/01/2007 8:38:40 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Holicheese

Using a rough estimation:

4.1M children born in the US every year
90M taxpayers

$4.1M x $5,000 / 90M = $227.77 additional paid by every taxpayer every year.


35 posted on 10/01/2007 8:38:45 AM PDT by So Cal Rocket
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To: So Cal Rocket

“$4.1M x $5,000 / 90M = $227.77 additional paid by every taxpayer every year.”

And that is just the floor. Like another poster wrote, when will Dem candidates start to up that? Elect me and i will raise the Baby Birthin’ Bond to $10k.
Oh yea, I will raise it to $15K.

Soon it will become like the minimum wage. The Baby Birthin’ Bond has not been raise in 5 years, yet, the price of college has gone up 20%. The bond has to keep up with the raising price of college!!!!!


36 posted on 10/01/2007 8:49:47 AM PDT by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: Holicheese

Then the Dems would write rules allowing the parents to “borrow” the money.
Every new baby in this country inherits the best gift of all..US citizenship and every opportunity in the world.
Billions would sacrifice their first born to have their second born get it..what more do we need?
All the money in the world won’t help a kid raised in poverty of morals and positive culture.


37 posted on 10/01/2007 10:05:08 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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