Posted on 10/02/2007 2:27:32 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
This afternoon we received a call from a viewer who said a business near downtown Reno was flying a Mexican flag above an American flag... which is in fact illegal.
This, after photos and comments about the flag were posted on Craigslist this morning. When we were able to have a photographer go and check everything out we found the story to be true.
It also didn t take long before the situation provoked a strong reaction. We are now going to show you , unedited, what happened. Click on the video to see what happened.
Video here:
http://tinyurl.com/yvtbst
For the broadband challenged, anyone wanna post a summary of what happened?
It is not “illegal” to violate the code (4 U.S.C. 1) that specifies how to fly the flag.
It is a set of rules that applies to government agencies, although it it considered the standard for all flag etiquette.
Yes, if this were a federal government office flying the flag this way, there might be a small fine for the miscreant.
The site must be busy. I keep getting “loading” but never get a peek.
Since the playback screen remains a black box on my computer, care to summarize?
regards - red
I would love to be on the jury if they were to try the guy for "stealing" the US flag.
red
Ping!
Nevada:
DESECRATION OF FLAGS
NRS 201.290 Penalty; exception.
1. Any person who, in any manner, for exhibition or display, puts or causes to be placed any inscription, design, device, symbol, portrait, name, advertisement, words, character, marks or notice, or sets or places any goods, wares and merchandise whatever upon any flag or ensign of the United States, or state flag of this State, or ensign, evidently purporting to be either of the flags or ensign, or who in any manner appends, annexes, or affixes to any such flag or ensign any inscription, design, device, symbol, portrait, name, advertisement, words, marks, notice or token whatever, or who displays or exhibits or causes to be displayed or exhibited any flag or ensign, evidently purporting to be either of the flags, upon which shall in any manner be put, attached, annexed or affixed any inscription, design, device, symbol, portrait, name, advertisement, words, marks, notice or token whatever, or who publicly or willfully mutilates, tramples upon, or who tears down or willfully and maliciously removes while owned by others, or defames, slanders, or speaks evilly or in a contemptuous manner of or otherwise defaces or defiles any of the flags, or ensign, which are public or private property, shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor.
2. This section shall not apply to flags or ensigns the property of or used in the service of the United States or of this State, upon which inscriptions, names of actions, words, marks or symbols are placed pursuant to law or authorized regulations.
[1911 C&P § 338; A 1919, 438; 1919 RL § 6603; NCL § 10286]
Wow, a vet on a mission walks up, lowers the flags, cuts loose the American flag, drops the Mexican flag on the sidewalk, goes to the news camera and states his name, says he’s not giving the flag back and marches off with it. Brave man!
“My name is Jim Bronson, and I took this flag down in honor of my country, with a knife of the United States Army! I am a veteran and I will not see this done to my country. If they want to fight us, then they need to be men. But I want someone to FIGHT me for this flag, because they’re not going to get it back!””
Well Done, Brother!
“bravo”
He commented to the effect that this is HIS Country, and he won't allow it's flag to be desecrated and will FIGHT anyone who wants to argue about it.
Good man!
Thanks for the summary. Did they show the name of the business?
Excellent transcript.
Excellant use of a Kabar!
I’m at work so can’t play the video, but the guy sounds like a real hero!
Is this really illegal in NV? I somehow doubt it.
If this is a private business they should be able to fly flags anyway they want. If people don’t like it they can organize a boycott of the business.
Taking down the flags is vandalism.
Long live free speech!!!
I’d like to buy that Vet a beer. We need more men like him in the Congress and in the White House for that matter.
I’d like to buy this guy a drink sometime.
ML/NJ
Governor Waihee, the first ethnic Hawaiian governor, flew the Hawaiian flag over ther US flag at the Hawaii State Capitol. It was an “in your face” unpatriotic act as he intended it to be. He is a Dimocrap.
That's disgusting. A great American would not do such a thing without at least urinating on the rag:)
Here’s my question. Is it legal to fly ONLY a Mexican (or other country) flag? I’m seen that many times in my town, and I always wonder. It really bothers me.
Most every state has flag laws paterned after the “Flag Code” 36 U.S.C. 173-178. Federal Law does not provide for penalties, but most state laws do.
“Did they show the name of the business?”
Go to WWW.KRNV.COM and you will see the videos to your right. It loads fine that way and you’ll see the entire front of the business. Great video! The business owner just stands there with his mouth open and wouldn’t speak for the camera. He said later that he was “just trying to support the local Hispanic community”.
I wouldn’t interfere with a PO’d guy with a seven inch Kabar either.
The only sign on the business was “El Jaripeo”, or somethign to taht effect.
And by the way, yesterday afternoon, I called the owner of Cantina El Jaripeo, and asked him to fix the flag situation. He pleaded ignorance and then asked what law he was breaking. I told him (US Code IV, Chapter 1, Section 7(c).
Later in the evening when he was interviewed in a phone call from KRNV, he said he was not aware it was against the law.
A dumb thing to do, but prosecution under this law would not stand up in court, as the first amendment supersedes all laws related to flag displays.
So? Flying the flag below another one does not seem to violate Nevada Law.
It means both the guy who displayed the flag ("defames, slanders, or speaks evilly or in a contemptuous manner") and the guy who cut it down("willfully and maliciously removes while owned by others") could be guilty of a misdemeanor under Nevada law.
Its about time people begin to say and act on ..we arent standing for this anymore.
For too long now we have allowed people to trod all over us.
God bless that guy ...I for one am proud!
Flying another nations flag over our own ...in place of our own etc...is not free speech. Its a message of conquer.
Thanks for that info.
“He pleaded ignorance and then asked what law he was breaking. I told him (US Code IV, Chapter 1, Section 7(c).”
They plead ignorance about a lot of US laws and customs.
This is not a free speech iussue. Try to fly the American flag above the Mexican flan in Mexico.
Lorraine, you are pathetic. What, pray tell was his message? What was he trying to say in his “free Speech?
If you want to get on your knees or on your back that is your business but the Mexican flag flown over/on top of the American flag is a symbol of subjugation. God bless that vet may we have many more like him!.
El Jaripeo
It’s obviously a bar or gambling place, because there’s a sign on the door that says noone under 21 may enter.
One day these people are going to wake up under islamic rule bound by sharia law & whine “How did this happen?”
It’s a slap at our Constitution to disrespect free speech on principle.
If you don’t like someone’s speech there is recourse. MORE speech, including the purest form of free speech there is, boycotts.
Vandalism is not a valid form of free speech.
Well at least we know the fine reno police department is on the job. SAC off
Dang right!
Thank God for people like that vet.
I am with you on that one Sue.
Wonders aloud about free speech they might enjoy under islamic rule.
I’m not a citizen of Mexico and I don’t know their laws. I do, however, know our Constitution and I uphold its principles. You apparently do not.
God bless our Constitution and may God grant idiots who don’t understand it a clue.
Try to use Internet Explorer instead of Firefox. It worked for me.
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