Skip to comments.Thompson says he aims to bring country back to roots
Posted on 10/02/2007 8:04:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Though America got where it is today by following a pattern of freedom and prosperity followed, Americans at a present political crossroads may be in danger of choosing instead a path that leads to inevitable demise, said Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson Monday in Marshalltown.
Thompson, however, advocated adhering to the countrys foundational principles and doing what is right.
How often, when you do the right thing, it turns out to be good politics too? he said to a full room at the Tremont on Main.
At the core of his campaign, Thompson said he stands behind a federalism based on the Declaration of Independences assertion that individual rights come from God, not government, and the Constitutions separation of powers.
I always ask myself, Does government have any business doing something, he said.
Thompson also delved into the hot topics of the day, including illegal immigration, taxes and war.
He noted that the United States now allows twice as many immigrants as it did in the early 1990s but emphasized the need for secure borders.
We all know the wonderful contributions weve received from us being a country with open borders. ... From a legal standpoint, were still an open and generous nation, he said. ... But a nation that cannot or will not secure its borders will not remain a sovereign nation. ... Is it going to make it better to become more and more dependant on illegal immigration?
On taxes, Thompson said the tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 worked and that Congress should continue to offer cuts in the future. What is not working, he said, is the unfair estate tax and unrestrained government spending.
Were spending the money of our children and grandchildren who are not even born yet and dont have a seat at the table, he said.
He advocated too opening up the health care system to more freedom, choice, personal responsibility and competition rather than plans too heavily relying on employers. The result would be the same quality care at lower costs, he said.
And on the war in Iraq, he said the nations greatest need is not to get out as soon as possible but to show the world that America is not weak and fundamentally not divided.
We need to send the message that were willing and able to do whats necessary on any front, he said. ... The cause was just, we were just not prepared for what we found there.
Thompson has made unity, along with security and prosperity, a priority in his campaign for the White House.
We have a heritage, a history of honorably sacrificing for the greater good, he said. Weve shed more blood for other peoples than any other nation, and were proud of that.
But being the worlds greatest nation comes with responsibility, he also said.
What you said.
Fred’s got principles and sticks to them. The rest have just a political hat dance.
Wish he would have asked this when he was a Senator.
“Freds got principles and sticks to them. The rest have just a political hat dance.”
That is one thing that he shares with a couple of the bottom tier candidates, except that Fred appears to have real ideals plus mainstream poll numbers.
They will eventually but right now they are having too much fun bashing Fred and posting laughable polls out of the twilight zone.
“Wish he would have asked this when he was a Senator.”
He did when no one else would. That’s why he was on the end of some 99-1 votes.
The more I hear him, the better I like him. First question he asks is; “Does the government have any business doing this?”
When would you ever expect to hear that from Romney or Rudy? They have a government plan for everything. Fred’s approach sounds a lot like one I heard several decades back: “Government is not the solution to a problem: Government is the Problem.” - Ronald Reagan
Bush 41 was the first to say government wasn’t so bad, that we should have a kinder and gentler America, as if Reagan had been cruel. Well, Fred is reclaiming the party for the Reaganites who have been in the wilderness for the last 20 years. After 4 years of Jimmy Carter, we got Ronald Reagan. 20 years of Bush-Clinton have set the stage for Fred Thompson. The times have finally met the man. I wish we hadn’t had to wait so long, but I think it will be worth it.
Here is a video of Romney in an interview.
Fred strikes me as someone that seeks the Presidency, however, it is not his lifes goal.
Elect me or dont.
Similar to George Washington didnt want to be president, however, If elected I will do my best.
My kind of President.
I always ask myself, Does government have any business doing something,
Wish he would have asked this when he was a Senator”
He did. He was on the losing end of several 99-1 votes because he disapproved of congressional actions that were contrary to his federalist principles.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but what has he said about the attack on Rush?
Ah, but the devil is in the details of how he defines our roots. Apparently he doesn’t define it as “Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech...” And in the interest of homosexual marriage he would amend the constitution to make sure states could alter the God-given definition of family.
I'd appreciate it if you would explain how he would amend the constitution to do that? I could have mis-read some of the things he said. Thanks.
No, now...Doc has it right on Fred.
The most telling thing told about Fred is that "he doesn't seem to have that fire in his belly that everyone else does."
Edwards has it, Rudy has it, McQeeg has it, and Hillary certainly has "the fire" (now and in her afterlife!)
So that may not be the best indicator. I think Fred will be just as happy if he doesn't win.
That's who we need.
Like a soldier that cringes on Omaha beach. Has no interest in being there, but will inexplicably crawl into the fire if called upon.
He just might have a winning theme here. After all the turmoil of the past few years, brought on by the Demonrats and the MSM, the country might be very much in the mood to “get back to their roots.”
I agree. Country music needs to be more traditional like the good old days.
Unity with what?
When did this happen? Because if it was before 9/11, a LOT of things changed that day, and I’m sure Fred’s views in many areas did as well. I know that happened to *me*, and I’m just an anonymous soccer mom!
Elect me or dont.
Similar to George Washington
And Ronald Reagan.
I like that question much better than the 'government has a role to play' thing that has become a regular phrase in President Bush's vocabulary. I cringe every time I hear those words.
Better to ask "What has any of the candidates said about the attack on Rush?". As far as I know none of them, including Hunter, has said anything. Hunterites are touting what he said back in April about Reid, but he has said nothing on this latest blatant illegal attack on a US citizens 1st amendment rights. Neither has Fred or the rest of the so called conservatives running for office.
He strikes me as Bob Dole as well.
Wish Hunter would have asked himself that question before voting for the bloated 2005 Highway Bill...
“He strikes me as Bob Dole as well.”
I have heard that canard repeated by a number of Fred-bashers on this and other threads. It doesn’t make any sense to me. What in the world does Fred Thompson , a quintessential federalist, have in common with Bob Dole, a big government Republican who promoted every program from food stamps to ADA to FACE (Freedom of Access to Clinics Entrance Act). You want to try to associate Fred with Dole because Dole was dull and old. Fred is not dull and is 8 years younger than Dole was when he was the nominee and 4 years younger than Reagan. He has a beautiful wife and two small children. Dole was also a loser, which Fred is not. So, you said Fred struck you as Bob Dole. Why don’t you back it up with some facts, if you are able.
If that is the case, then such steadfastness to principles is a significant recommendation to the Presidency. It is not sufficient, however. My Aunt Myrtle has principles and sticks to them, and she is not Presidential material. A Presidential candidate must have more, such as talent, ability, and a record of achievement. Fred demonstrated very little Presidential type ability and leadership while in the Senate, and those that expect it to suddenly materialize now are likely to experience a succession of disappointments.
A case in point is fundraising. Given FDT's lofty Rasmussen poll numbers, and the pent up demand for a conservative savior, you'd think that FDT would need only strike his rod on the rock, and the money would flow. No, his fundraising lagged behind his rivals, who do not have FDT's untapped sources. Which ever way you turn, when FDT is called upon to perform, it turns out underwhelming. Adherence to principles gains adherents on FR, and has helped FDT's poll numbers. A campaign needs an active, resolute and able candidate to sustain itself. And FDT's campaign doesn't have one.
>>>Unity with what?<<<
Another Thompson platitude. Ask him, and it will probably have something to do with apple pie.
Sounds like a winner! /sarc
Excellent summary bump!
That’s the new BS smear angle his detractors have cooked up.
Dobson is a moron.
It’s known as being honest with oneself.
Fred Thompson, Abraham Lincoln;
very similar statesmen.
Oh, I dunno.
Someone said Allison Krauss could sing directions to the post office and it would put listeners in heaven. I agree.
Did you bother to look at the time frame? Or were you content to allow the press monkeys spoon feed you their poison?
Your delusion continues.
This is a fantastic article. I’ve noticed that Fred has gotten a lot of great coverage from the local press focussing on the issues and Fred’s proposals. It is the national press that has focussed on the horserace itself and how well Fred is supposedly doing within the context of the expectations game. If Fred can figure out how to get articles and analysis like the one on this thread in front of the voters I believe he will make the sale to the American people.
Assume you mean James Dobson. What's he going to do?
I always ask myself, Does government have any business doing something, he said.
Here is the major difference between "Presiding" and "Dictating".
Are any of the other candidates, from either party, talking about how they will "Preside", or just saying "what I intend to do is ..."?
I’m sure you realize that Fred Thompson was referring to history (i.e., Ellis Island) with that statement, but you are trying to paint Fred as an “open-borders” RINO like Romney, Huckabee or Giuliani. Shame on you!
“you are trying to paint Fred as an open-borders RINO like Romney, Huckabee or Giuliani.”
‘If the shoe fits’....
I don’t normally comment in a personal way about Freepers, but what simply amazes me is that while you consistently and admirably have opposed illegal immigration and advocate for the effective security of our borders, you willingly ignore the obvious when it comes to Fred. If he is elected 2DV, I believe you are going to be greatly disappointed when he handles the problem no differently than any of the other ‘moderate’ Republican candidates. Our battle to prevent the OBL/CFR agenda for a mass amnesty, to get our borders effectively secured, and to stop the SPP/NAU will continue or be lost. Perhaps its just not a priority of yours, but it is mine.
Fred repeatedly has called for an end to illegal immigration.
Any other claim is a falsehood.
Now, you’re not going to propagate this falsehood any longer.
I will hunt you down.
I was at this event. I can tell you that he is clearly spoke against illegal immigration. The newspaper did not quote every word that he said.
Like a soldier that cringes on Omaha beach. Has no interest in being there, but will inexplicably crawl into the fire if called upon.Excellent analogy. I like it. And I agree that is the type of person I want as president. Not a life-time candidate, like many or most of the others.
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