Social Conservatives Will Run Third Party Candidate If GOP Nominates Abortion Supporter

Life Site ^ | October 2, 2007 | Hilary White

[Coleus]

"If the Republican Party nominates a pro-abortion candidate we will consider running a third-party candidate." So said a group of prominent U.S. social conservatives  alarmed at the possibility that the Republicans will nominate the pro-gay "marriage" and pro-abortion Rudolph Giuliani for President.  The New York Times reports the statement came from a break-away group at a meeting Saturday of the Council for National Policy in Salt Lake City. The statement comes as Giuliani is making a strong showing in the polls as the Republican candidate choice.

Giuliani has long held the "personally opposed but" position on abortion adopted by many Catholic political candidates supportive of abortion. This position, known as the "Cuomo dodge," was first formulated by the notorious abortion supporter and congressman-priest, Fr. Robert Drinan, and popularised in 1984 by then-New York Governor Mario Cuomo. The position has been denounced as a "deal with the devil" by faithful Catholics.  Giuliani told a group of Republican voters in South Carolina in April, "Ultimately I believe it's an individual right and a woman should make that choice." He previously stated that although he "personally opposed" abortion, "you have to leave that to a disagreement of conscience, and you have to respect the choice that somebody makes."

The conservative group at the Salt Lake City meeting included Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family and Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council. The group told media they had not yet identified a candidate but that most of the participants of the smaller meeting supported the resolution.  Conservative activist Richard Viguerie, one of the meeting's participants said the issue is "beyond abortion", though that is the most visible issue. "There's a general feeling among social conservatives, as well as economic conservatives, that they have been betrayed by the Republican Party," Viguerie said.  Conservatives have warned that a Giuliani nomination could split the Republican party, in which social conservatives represent a major voting bloc, thus guaranteeing a win for the Democrat candidate. Most Republican conservatives believe that infamous abortion militant Hillary Clinton will take the Democrat nomination.

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[arderkrag]

Not a da*n thing...we’re going to principle ourselves into another Clinton presidency...

I've voted for a few candidates that have lost at state and national levels, and let me tell you - it's better to lose on principle than win on compromise. Every time.

Not that I would vote for Rudy whether he stood for abortion or against it anyway, just pointing that out.

[Chunga]

I've voted for a few candidates that have lost at state and national levels, and let me tell you - it's better to lose on principle than win on compromise. Every time.

That's your opinion.

It isn't mine, and I've voted a lot myself.

Fred Thompson's my choice and I'd much rather win with John McCain than lose to Hillary Clinton by voting third party.

[Nonstatist]

How about Pat Robertson? Hes a whacko but he’s on the good side as far as abortion goes. Its all about principle...

[Ben Bolt]

He can win because enough folks want what they can get from the elected instead of voting for what or who will best lead the Republic . If you think out of the box then it is your ( our ) fault .

Just stand on your convictions . God . Country . Family .

[SoCalPol]

The Liberturds are coming out from under their rocks
since people are wise to L Ron Paul and his anti war, anti Israel views, the Liberturds are trying to divide Republicans so any of the anti war candidates will win.

[arderkrag]

If you vote your conscience, you haven’t lost. It’s that simple. My party wins very rarely, and then only locally, but they reflect my beliefs. Should I vote for the “good ol’ boy” Republicans around here that are actually just Republicans so they can get votes? Of course not! Regardless of what few gains I may make, the losses are worse, one of them being that I have to look at myself in the mirror and say, “You helped make it this way” when those “conservatives” support liberal or authoritarian legislation. A vote for a third party is not wasted, it is what you believe.

[sofaman]

admirable....

see, here's my reasoning. I will NOT allow Hillary Clinton to become POTUS without one helluva fight. The woman is dangerous, particularly considering the times in which we live.

The principle here is whether or not she becomes POTUS...Rudy Giuliani would have zero effect on Roe V wade...the Courts will decide that.

Ditto on the 2nd Amendment..particularly since he has already stipulated that he would appoint judges in the mold of Sam Alito and Chief justice Roberts...and, yes, I believe him, even though he is not my first or second choice.

The fact remains, he is a far cry from Hillary Clinton...and the statement that I have seen so often that he is "Hillary-lite" is just so much hyperbole.

[arderkrag]

The fact remains, he is a far cry from Hillary Clinton...and the statement that I have seen so often that he is "Hillary-lite" is just so much hyperbole.

Oh, absolutely. I simply won't vote for him just to keep her out of office. It's a difference of mindset - I've never voted "against" anyone. I vote for people.

[SoConPubbie]

It would be nice if it were only 1 issue with Rudy.

It ain't and each of you posters no it!

He is on the wrong side of the following issues, as has been pointed out ad nauseum on this site:

1. Abortion 2. Gun Rights 3. Gay Agenda 4. Fiscal Issues (Increased the size of government dramatically and left a huge deficit when he left office)

And may I add that his so-called WOT experience is a bunch of speeches and attending funerals, which I applaud, but really doesn't amount to much. He is no stronger than most of the other candidates on this issue.

So nice try with the "one-issus voters" slander. It actually a good try on your parts of projection. It is actually Rudy supporters WHO are one-issue voters, the WOT!

Oh and one last parting comment:

The Life issue trumps all else. If your society's culture does not stand for the most basic of all morals and human rights, it is not worth defending. People who are willing to sacrifice this fight because they think they can win by doing so are sick in their souls and not worthy to be put in positions of leadership!

[Ben Bolt]

A vote for a third party is not wasted, it is what you believe.

Bump to that and I tip my hat off to you for taking the time for at least trying to educate the status quo cheerleading squad .

[jwh_Denver]

I agree with you; conservatives are super and we need a whole lot more of them. So let’s get them out in force!

[SoConPubbie]

"Ditto on the 2nd Amendment..particularly since he has already stipulated that he would appoint judges in the mold of Sam Alito and Chief justice "

This little lie has been exposed multiple times here on FreeRepublic. When Rudy said this, he included Ruth Bader Ginsburg as an example of a good consitutionlist type of judge. Either he is a complete idiot or he thinks we are complete idiots!

[stockstrader]

I agree. It irks the heck out of me when many on here oppose Rudy because of any one particular issue. That is absolutely outragous--as one should always look at the 'big picture'.

It ridiculous to oppose him because of one single issue,,,,because if you take a step back,,,,take a deep breath,,,,and closely examine Rudy's positions on everything across the board,,,

THERE ARE SO DARN MANY OTHER REASONS TO STRONGLY OPPOSE HIM!!!!!!

[SoConPubbie]

"The fact remains, he is a far cry from Hillary Clinton...and the statement that I have seen so often that he is "Hillary-lite" is just so much hyperbole"

Well, not hardly! If we take his own statements like when he states that his positions on the issues are almost identical to Clinton's it kind of negates your statement.

If you can't believe Rudy about Rudy, who are we going to believe?

You?

[Rudder]

A vote for a third party is not wasted, it is what you believe.

What good does it do for anybody?

[Rudder]

So, put a great big banner in your front yard affirming your pro-life position and vote to win the election. Voting third party will do nothing good for the pro-life movement.

[Ben Bolt]

As an educated man you must know in your mind that a 3rd party has to evolve and it will not do so without support right ?

Let’s get past the obvious and let me ask you why do you continue to vote for the status quo cycle after cycle ?

[CyberAnt]

Oh great! Just what we need - a party split.

Remember what the last split got us ..?? 8 YEARS OF BUBBA!!

Do we have to repeat such a stupid act ..??

Do we really want another 8 YEARS OF BUBBA ..??

Give me a break!

[Rudder]

I vote to win the election, not to marry the candidate. The so-called status quo candidates are those who are winning primaries. Why vote for someone who doesn’t have a chance in hell of winning? If it’s all about principle, run a big ad in the NYT professing your principles. That’ll get you more mileage than an obscure vote.

[yorkie]

>>run a big ad in the NYT<<

.......they raised their rates, I’ve heard.........