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Media Matters: 'Uh, Uh, No,' Hillary Didn't Help Start Us
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 10/03/2007 6:08:11 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Welcome back, Tucker. Really.

When Carlson was away, guest host David Shuster sullied Tucker's name-sake show with the tasteless "gotcha" game he sprung on Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), then compounded matters by leading a liberal love-in.

Tucker's been back in the saddle for a couple days, and this evening took on Wesley Clark and later a representative of Media Matters.

Speaking with Paul Waldman, Senior Fellow and Director of Special Projects of "Media Matters," Carlson displayed the graphic shown here, in which Hillary Clinton stated that she had "helped start" Media Matters. Under close questioning by Carlson, Waldman wound up flatly contradicting Hillary's claim.

View video here.

CARLSON: So Hillary Clinton helped to start, and supports, Media Matters. It's a political organization, then.

Waldman gave a non-response response, discussing the history of how ex-conservative David Brock started the organization.

CARLSON: But what does this mean? What does Hillary Clinton mean that she "helped start" Media Matters?

WALDMAN: Well, I think she's supportive of what we do, and a lot of people have encouraged us.

CARLSON: Did she help start it?

WALDMAN: Uh, uh, no. I think she's been somebody who encouraged it and was supportive like a lot of progressives.

"Uh, uh, no"? Did Media Matters just call Hillary Clinton a liar?

Earlier, Carlson called out former General Wesley Clark [who did have the coolest job title in the western world, "Supreme Allied Commander Europe"] on his bizarre claim that Rush Limbaugh was seeking to "censor" our service people when it is Clark who is seeking to censor Rush.

TUCKER CARLSON: Here's part of what you wrote on the Huffington Post. Here's what you wrote: "Since Rush Limbaugh won't listen to us, we're going directly to Congress, which can prevent him from disrespecting and censoring the voices of our soldiers." Now with all respect, that's almost Orwellian. You're accusing him of censorship, and at the same time attempting to censor him by taking him off the air.

WESLEY CLARK: Well, I think he's crossed the line, Tucker.

As Tucker subsequently said, in so many words: who died and made Wesley Clark keeper of "the line"?

In any case: who's not telling the truth? Hillary when she claimed she "helped start" Media Matters, or the left-wing outfit when it says she didn't?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: mediamatters; rushlimbaugh; tuckercarlson; wesleyclark
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1 posted on 10/03/2007 6:08:18 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: devolve; governsleastgovernsbest; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000

Maybe Hillary already regrets making that statement and they are now ‘backtracking’ on it??


2 posted on 10/03/2007 6:11:37 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: potlatch

Liars lie.


3 posted on 10/03/2007 6:13:42 PM PDT by bannie
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Media Matters calling Hillary a liar? Ping to Today show list.


4 posted on 10/03/2007 6:14:12 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest


Hillary: I Started Media Matters
5 posted on 10/03/2007 6:14:13 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Hillary's way out is that she said she "helped start and support" some she started, some she just helped support.

Or she'll just laugh and say she can't remember.

6 posted on 10/03/2007 6:14:41 PM PDT by infidel29 (Where there's a will... I want to be in it!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Well Algore had so much fun founding the internet that Hillary had to found something too.


7 posted on 10/03/2007 6:16:41 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: infidel29
Or she'll just laugh cackle and say she can't remember.
8 posted on 10/03/2007 6:17:03 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: bannie

[Liars lie.]

For sure!
And I mispoke in my statement as they are denying what Hillary said, lol.


9 posted on 10/03/2007 6:17:16 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“Did she help start it?

WALDMAN: Uh, uh, no. I think she’s been somebody who encouraged it and was supportive like a lot of progressives.”

Sounds like she helped to start it — start, encouraged, whatever.


10 posted on 10/03/2007 6:19:20 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: potlatch
Exactly. All Clintonoids (hers and his) are prepared to backtrack, lie through their teeth, and deny under oath that they ever said their original remark. They do this whenever the Clinton in question needs a course reversal,

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Anchor Babies, Away"

11 posted on 10/03/2007 6:20:35 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (u)
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To: Shermy

I thought Hillary owns Media Matters. They do nothing but pump Hillary and attack her enemies.


12 posted on 10/03/2007 6:22:06 PM PDT by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Rush on General Ashley Wilkes:



Pathetic hypocrite Clark attacks Rush. It's no longer what you say, it's what they say you thought when you said it.

"Phony Soldiers" Smear Rolls On; The Mad Bomber of Bosnia Attacks
13 posted on 10/03/2007 6:22:18 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Of course its a branch of the HilaryCare War Room. They’re just trying to close the door after the Cow has left.

Pray for W and Our Troops


14 posted on 10/03/2007 6:23:19 PM PDT by bray (Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
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To: infidel29

No doubt she’ll try to weasel out, but the fact is Hillary said she helped “start AND support,” not “start or support.”


15 posted on 10/03/2007 6:24:06 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: devolve; Congressman Billybob

16 posted on 10/03/2007 6:25:22 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This should be sent to Rush. Don’t you think he would love this?


17 posted on 10/03/2007 6:25:38 PM PDT by imskylark
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To: potlatch
Deniers deny!


18 posted on 10/03/2007 6:25:40 PM PDT by bannie
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Created by Hillary to (character) assassinate any potential critics. Funded by the truly evil George Soros.


19 posted on 10/03/2007 6:25:44 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: bannie

Lying? Nah, maybe just a willing suspension of disbelief. Or maybe being a typical politician and claiming credit for the rising sun?


20 posted on 10/03/2007 6:25:53 PM PDT by kcar (HillCare 2.0: Freedom's deathbed)
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To: Shermy

WALDMAN: Uh, uh, no. I think she’s been somebody who encouraged it and was supportive like a lot of progressives.”

Hillary’s a progressive? Gee, I thought she was a moderate.


21 posted on 10/03/2007 6:27:35 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo (Earth - Taking care of itself since 4.6 billion BC)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Many PAC's and so-called "nonprofits" are dirty dirty crooked organizations that produce NOTHING and leech off of the american taxpayer. Just a few short years ago when I first started posting about "nonprofits" here there were about 500,000. Today there are over 1,500,000.

We need to reform the laws in this country so that businesses like this Media Matters outfit can only exist as what it is, a business. And pay taxes like all other businesses. Just like Rush Limbaugh does.

22 posted on 10/03/2007 6:27:57 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Tagline:(Optional, printed after your name on post0:)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

By trying to create some distance between media matters and hillary, the media matters spokesman may be revealing how frightened they are by the new media’s counter attack against them.

Rush, Mark Levin, Clear Channel, and Fox are aiming for media matters’s non-profit status. To retain their non-profit status, media matters must not promote a single candidate. But they have been, and her name is hillary.

It may not be much, but by denying hillary, media matters may be caving in a little to the conservative media’s pressure.


23 posted on 10/03/2007 6:28:58 PM PDT by Vision Thing (Bin Laden - Ahmadinejad: Democrats '08)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Voters can’t be allowed to forget this.

Mediamatters is trying to downplay Hillary’s affiliation with them because they probably know it could hurt her in a general election.

24 posted on 10/03/2007 6:30:49 PM PDT by FreepersareproAmerica
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I believe a Rush segment is about to air on H&C


25 posted on 10/03/2007 6:31:12 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: potlatch

Of course Media Matters is trying to cover her rear end.
HC covers her tracks very well.


26 posted on 10/03/2007 6:32:01 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (I heard it on the grapevine and saw it in the paper, so it must be true.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
John Gibson talked about David Brock, Hillary and Media Matters in his "My Word" segment today. It's at this link:

Click Here

Here's an excerpt:

"It was started by a guy named David Brock who runs the online organization you're heard a lot about lately, Media Matters for America. Brock is a onetime conservative who wrote a book about his transformation from Clinton-hating muckraking author to conservative-hating crusader and Hillary Clinton confidante. They talk often, according to reports. And she claims to have co-founded Media Matters. In this transformation, he also discovered his true self and came out as a gay man.

Brock became a kneecapper for Hillary Clinton and George Soros. He first took office space in the office of John Podesta, former Clinton chief of staff, who was running the Center for American Progress, a Soros-funded left-wing organization. Brock began attacking conservatives."

27 posted on 10/03/2007 6:32:49 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: Rodm

“I thought Hillary owns Media Matters.”

I don’t know. All I know is the difference here between “help start” and “encourage” is just about nothing.

I do know more now. I went to their website, it shows an obsession with details of details of perceived slights no one rational would care about...sounds like the Clinton machine...


28 posted on 10/03/2007 6:33:59 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: devolve; TribalPrincess2U
How well I know!




29 posted on 10/03/2007 6:34:41 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Liberal tactics dictate that conservative commentators speak as “we say or we’ll make you pay”!! Democratic soldiers cannot be disrespected by the media, but liberal Congressmen can humiliate and denigrate the CINC to their hearts desire with impunity. And they wonder why Congress has all time low confidence votes? The Congress needs housecleaning again!!


30 posted on 10/03/2007 6:35:36 PM PDT by keepthefaith
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To: Miss Didi

thank you for your # 5. It’s just great to have important hot links finger tip close.


31 posted on 10/03/2007 6:36:23 PM PDT by YaYa123
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To: Rodm

“Waldman wound up flatly contradicting Hillary’s claim.”

Uh, no, that did not happen.


32 posted on 10/03/2007 6:36:57 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy

CARLSON: Did she help start it?

WALDMAN: Uh, uh, no. I think she’s been somebody who encouraged it and was supportive like a lot of progressives.

I’d say “no” is a flat contradiction, however he might then try to color it.


33 posted on 10/03/2007 6:38:30 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: pandoraou812

bump to the Lieness of Chappaqua.


34 posted on 10/03/2007 6:39:22 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
This comment on the Newsbusters thread caught my eye:

MMs is a 501-3c tax exempt organization under the irs code and they stand to lose that if it is determined they are politically based. That would be a devastating turn for them.

No wonder they are distancing themselves from HC's statement.

Is this correct?

35 posted on 10/03/2007 6:40:42 PM PDT by Lacey
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To: FreepersareproAmerica

All of this too will soon be cleansed by the gargantuan galactic Clintonian singularity, wherein and whenceward memories are stretched, bent backwards, redacted forwards, and finally reduced to a vague feeling of wrongness which can’t be properly enunciated.


36 posted on 10/03/2007 6:40:50 PM PDT by kcar (HillCare 2.0: Freedom's deathbed)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Speaking of phony soldiers...


37 posted on 10/03/2007 6:41:58 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
TUCKER CARLSON: Here's part of what you wrote on the Huffington Post. Here's what you wrote: "Since Rush Limbaugh won't listen to us, we're going directly to Congress, which can prevent him from disrespecting and censoring the voices of our soldiers." Now with all respect, that's almost Orwellian. You're accusing him of censorship, and at the same time attempting to censor him by taking him off the air.

WESLEY CLARK: Well, I think he's crossed the line, Tucker.

Word fail me...

38 posted on 10/03/2007 6:42:52 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: TigersEye

her pants ought to be on fire...


39 posted on 10/03/2007 6:44:00 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah & Muslims ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“I’d say “no” is a flat contradiction, however he might then try to color it.”

The fault is with him, not Hillary.

Fits well with his website. It is obsessed with “gotchas” of the most miniscule matters.


40 posted on 10/03/2007 6:48:45 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: pandoraou812

I have matches.


41 posted on 10/03/2007 6:49:21 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: TigersEye

But would really want to get that close??


42 posted on 10/03/2007 6:50:18 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah & Muslims ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Now with all respect, that's almost Orwellian. You're accusing him of censorship, and at the same time attempting to censor him by taking him off the air.

So how come wimp job Tucker didn't set the general straight on the soldiers caught LYING about their service
43 posted on 10/03/2007 6:51:56 PM PDT by uncbob (m first)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"who's not telling the truth? Hillary when she claimed she "helped start" Media Matters, or the left-wing outfit when it says she didn't?"

It matters not who is telling the truth. It matters only that the question is being asked, and discussed.

44 posted on 10/03/2007 6:56:39 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: uncbob
So how come wimp job Tucker didn't set the general straight on the soldiers caught LYING about their service

Tucker may play the role of TV "conservative" but don't ask him to get serious about it.

45 posted on 10/03/2007 6:57:33 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Depends what the meaning of “start” is.


46 posted on 10/03/2007 7:01:03 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: potlatch

.

Good post potlatch!

“M” called 9


47 posted on 10/03/2007 7:09:20 PM PDT by devolve (---- -Secret_Asian_Man_&_Dr.No-No_Sorass_-)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

LOL.

Precisely!


48 posted on 10/03/2007 7:10:29 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: devolve

That’s good!


49 posted on 10/03/2007 7:11:15 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: potlatch
Ka-Ching!
50 posted on 10/03/2007 7:17:30 PM PDT by devolve (---- -Secret_Asian_Man_&_Dr.No-No_Sorass_-)
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