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Thompson to Dobson (take a hike)
NRO ^ | 10/4/2007 | Byron York

Posted on 10/04/2007 5:25:13 AM PDT by Neville72

It hasn't gotten much comment yet, but in his interview on Fox last night, Fred Thompson rather emphatically told Focus on the Family chief James Dobson to take a hike. Host Sean Hannity asked Thompson about Dobson, who has attacked Thompson and made it clear he would not support a Thompson candidacy. "Don't read too much into the Dobson thing," Thompson told Hannity, continuing:

A gentleman who has never met me, who has never talked to me, I've never talked to him on the phone. I did have one of his aides call me up and kind of apologize, the first time he attacked me and said I wasn't a Christian…

I don't know the gentleman. I do know that I have a lot of people who are of strong faith and are involved in the same organizations that he is in, that I've met with, Jeri and I both have met with, and I like to think that we have some strong friendships and support there…

Hannity then asked: "Would you want to have a conversation with Dr. Dobson? Do you think that might help?"

I have no idea. I don't particularly care to have a conversation with him. If he wants to call up and apologize again, that's ok with me. But I'm not going to dance to anybody's tune.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: byronyork; christianvote; dobson; electionpresident; fredthompson; jamesdobson
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"If he wants to call up and apologize again, that's ok with me. But I'm not going to dance to anybody's tune."

That's my guy.

1 posted on 10/04/2007 5:25:16 AM PDT by Neville72
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To: Neville72

Excellent response from the next President :)


2 posted on 10/04/2007 5:28:32 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Neville72

Beautiful response. Fred is his own man, and that is going to resonate throughout his campaign, and is something that will pull in people who might otherwise disagree with one or more of his positions.


3 posted on 10/04/2007 5:29:46 AM PDT by phothus
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To: Neville72

That was an excellent response from Thompson. Dobson was way off base to say what he did. It’s people like him that give the religious right a bad name.


4 posted on 10/04/2007 5:30:21 AM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter. Seriously.)
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To: Neville72

If mclame can kick the Christians off the ‘truth’ bus....Fred will be different, and kick the Christians out of his ‘red’ truck.


5 posted on 10/04/2007 5:30:27 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk. I Will Be Voting for Mr. Duncan Hunter, fellow FReepers.)
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To: Neville72

My take on Fred is he is not as conservative as I would like, but he is conservative enough. He is not my first choice and I am still supporting Duncan Hunter, but I could vote for him. I can’t vote for Rino Rudy.


6 posted on 10/04/2007 5:33:05 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Neville72

Frankly Dobson has been a real jerk to Thompson and I think Fred made it very clear that he will kiss no ones ring to be President. I thought it was refreshing and laudable.

btw, remember Dobson said he didn’t believe Thompson to be a Christian.


7 posted on 10/04/2007 5:33:38 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Neville72

Yep, that’s my Fred. Who does this Dobson character think he is?

Notice that Rudy hasn’t said anything about Rush and the leftists who attack free speech. Anyone else hear anything from Rudy?

Principles, that’s what you need to be President. Something Hillary Matters doesn’t understand.


8 posted on 10/04/2007 5:33:43 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Neville72

Mine too.


9 posted on 10/04/2007 5:34:41 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what Iíve done here today doesnít force you to have a negative opinion of meÖ.)
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To: Hydroshock

Ditto except that Tancredo was my first choice.


10 posted on 10/04/2007 5:36:18 AM PDT by GunsareOK
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To: Neville72

Apparently Thompson didn’t kiss Dobson’s ring (or whatever it is he likes to have kissed) so he is being blackballed by the self appointed religious leader. Go Thompson, get the nomination. Go Dobson, I don’t care where just go.


11 posted on 10/04/2007 5:37:18 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: alicewonders

Along with his unequivolcal, clear statement of support for Rush yesterday, this backhand of Dobson sets Fred apart from his Republican rivals. He won’t go on bended knee to anyone.

And lets be realistic here. When Fred hooks up with the Hildabeast in the general, which candidate, pray tell, will Dobson support?


12 posted on 10/04/2007 5:37:27 AM PDT by Neville72 (uist)
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To: Hydroshock
I can’t vote for Rino Rudy. and I cannot vote for Rino Romney
13 posted on 10/04/2007 5:37:49 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk. I Will Be Voting for Mr. Duncan Hunter, fellow FReepers.)
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To: Neville72

Really? Sounds stupid to me.


14 posted on 10/04/2007 5:38:24 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Hydroshock

I’m telling you Thompson - Hunter - the Gonzo candidates in reverse.


15 posted on 10/04/2007 5:38:38 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: Neville72

Good for Fred!


16 posted on 10/04/2007 5:38:50 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("This is funny." ~ last words of "Doc" Holliday)
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To: Neville72

Well, I guess Thompson won’t be getting Dobson’s vote. Seems like none of the declared candidates will be getting Dobson’s vote.

It looks like the Christian political movement has come full circle. Before Falwell, Christians stayed at home and made no impact on the political process. Then Falwell changed that. Christians pretty much ran the show for 20 years. Now Christians are going back to sulking in the corner.


17 posted on 10/04/2007 5:39:15 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Neville72

Third party.


18 posted on 10/04/2007 5:39:33 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (in the halls of Valhalla...)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Third Party
is being discussed
19 posted on 10/04/2007 5:40:57 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk. I Will Be Voting for Mr. Duncan Hunter, fellow FReepers.)
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To: Neville72

Outstanding. Hooray Fred! Our differences are microscopically insignificant when compared with those who lie to us, want to enslave us and want to kill us.


20 posted on 10/04/2007 5:41:02 AM PDT by PGalt
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Good for Fred.

About time someone put this jackass in his place.

I bet this all started because Fred wouldn't pimp one of his books.
21 posted on 10/04/2007 5:42:40 AM PDT by j_k_l
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To: Neville72
Fred was great last night.


22 posted on 10/04/2007 5:43:18 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: alicewonders

Why do I think that Fred is unlikely to pull a Trent Lott, now or ever?

Isn’t that what Freepers want?

A man with the courage of his convictions, with values and beliefs we can rely upon?

That man is Fred Thompson.


23 posted on 10/04/2007 5:44:19 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Socialism, thy name is Woman)
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To: traderrob6
"...Dobson said he didn’t believe Thompson to be a Christian...

I bet there are more people who believe this about Dobson than Fred.
24 posted on 10/04/2007 5:44:38 AM PDT by j_k_l
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To: Brilliant
"Now Christians are going back to sulking in the corner."

Not this one. Not only will I not sulk in the corner. I will actively vote for WHICHEVER republican ultimately wins the nomination. It is my firm belief, and indisputable fact, that failure to do so is a de facto vote for whichever traitor ultimately represents worldwide marxism, er the demorats, in the general election.

25 posted on 10/04/2007 5:46:30 AM PDT by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: Brilliant
sulking in the corner

or leaving the Republican Party?
There is much at stake in this election
I would not attempt to drive stakes into
the Christian Right if I were a candidate.....

God moves in mysterious ways.
and if angered....I do not want to be around God .... said the angels....?

26 posted on 10/04/2007 5:46:51 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk. I Will Be Voting for Mr. Duncan Hunter, fellow FReepers.)
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To: Neville72

I am a Christian and I do not demand that my president publicly declare his faith

I want a president that will uphold the Constitution,defend our borders and stay out of my wallet.

I figure if that president believes in the Constitution I will still be able to worship in my church.

Mr. Dobson has the right to say what he does not speak for me, I make up my own mind and I would hope his followers will do the same.

Besides, Jimmy Carter claims himself as a Christian and we are not impressed.


27 posted on 10/04/2007 5:47:24 AM PDT by Kimmers
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To: Neville72

If someone I had never met and didn’t know made a public statement, or a statement that he knew would go public, that I was not a Christian.....I would have told that person AND the horse he rode in on, to take a hike too.


28 posted on 10/04/2007 5:47:30 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (He's the coolest thing around, gonna shut HRC down, gonna turn it on, wind it up, blow em out, FDT!)
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To: BibChr
Sound stupid to you, eh? I think what is even more stupid is for some self-appointed master of all things Christian to label someone not a Christian. Let me tell you something. For years, I have tired of the self-obsessed born-agains and their holier than thou sctick. The ones who judge you because your level of Christianity can never measure up to theirs. I have seen those people in the Protestant and Catholic faiths and they sicken me. I had one born-again tell me years ago that Catholics pray to a different God. And I really had my fill of them when stationed in Naples, Italy. They were as thick as flys there and worse than the airport Kirsnas.

Here's another thing that will probably piss people off. I admire anyone who believes in God but I swear I will never vote for another born-again Christian in my life. I think being born-again is part of Bush's probelm concerning the Dems and his inability to take it to them like he should. Fred may or may not get the Presidency but I get the feeling he is doing it his way. And if he goes down, he'll go down like a man, keeping his dignity and honor intact!

29 posted on 10/04/2007 5:47:49 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Neville72

I don’t see where he said, “Take a hike.”

Is NRO misrepresenting Fred’s response so as to denigrate Dobson?


30 posted on 10/04/2007 5:48:04 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Neville72

Refreshing answer from Fred Thompson.


31 posted on 10/04/2007 5:48:16 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Brilliant
Now Christians are going back to sulking in the corner.

Not this Christian. As much as I like Dr. Dobson for his support for family issues, he doesn't tell me who to vote for.

32 posted on 10/04/2007 5:49:08 AM PDT by shekkian
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To: Neville72

Good Luck!!


33 posted on 10/04/2007 5:50:15 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: 7thson

Speaking of judgemental.


34 posted on 10/04/2007 5:50:15 AM PDT by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: mad_as_he$$

“Third party.”

Hogwash. If Dobson were to do that (1)the majority of social conservatives would ignore him and vote for conservative Thompson anyway and (2) Dobson would forever consign himself to being irrelevant.

Since when have “Christians” taken orders from this self-appointed jacka$$. Especially when other Christian leaders(Land et al) have publicly supported Thompson.


35 posted on 10/04/2007 5:50:16 AM PDT by Neville72 (uist)
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To: Theo

short answer....is a resounding yes


36 posted on 10/04/2007 5:50:55 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk. I Will Be Voting for Mr. Duncan Hunter, fellow FReepers.)
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To: Neville72
I certainly will vote for Thompson should he be the nominee. I will vote for whomever the Party chooses to run because to not vote and hand the WH to the liberals is unthinkable.
37 posted on 10/04/2007 5:51:19 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Sue Perkick

My take is that Thompson may be more conservative than is apparent at this time. And if he is no more conservative than he appears now, I can still vote for him. More importantly, I think he is electable.

I think he can retain enough of the conservative vote to make a difference in the election outcome. Although it shouldn’t be the case, he’ll probably draw some “moderate” democrat votes because of his Hollywood celebrity. Most Christians will vote for him—even zealots like Dobson—because they dang well know what will happen if Hildebeast wins. Remember, the best the Clintoon did was 48% of the electorate. He won because of conservative disenchantment with the Pubbie candidates.

Fred is a great communicator and seems to have the heart to be confrontational when necessary. I’m so sick and tired of Bush allowing the Dems to define him. His non response to their outrageous claims, assertions or whatever has only encouraged more of the same.


38 posted on 10/04/2007 5:51:51 AM PDT by dooltotheend
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To: j_k_l

I suppose it sounded clever when you were writing that.

If Fred is a Christian, where does he attend church?

I’m inclined to vote for Fred, but there is evidence that he doesn’t place faith in God and fellowship with believers very high on his priority list.


39 posted on 10/04/2007 5:52:21 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Have you looked at the Constitution Party?

I wrote the above and then I went to the website and the first sentence involved James Dobson planning a campaign strategy.....so never mind


40 posted on 10/04/2007 5:52:59 AM PDT by Kimmers
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To: Hydroshock
My feelings are the same as yours, except I don’t support Hunter as my first choice.

I really like Huckabee, but he will never be given a fair shake. Even, people on FR that you know don’t have a clue repeat the talking points that they have heard.

41 posted on 10/04/2007 5:53:15 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: From One - Many
Dobson isn’t going to do a third party because he is a professional huckster, and knows he will lose his status amongst the boobs that grovel before him.

He is a tease. He is a white Jessie Jackson.

42 posted on 10/04/2007 5:53:59 AM PDT by Leisler (Liberalism. It is not a philosophy, it is a disease.)
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To: HerrBlucher
If someone I had never met and didn’t know made a public statement, or a statement that he knew would go public, that I was not a Christian.....I would have told that person AND the horse he rode in on, to take a hike too.

You understand that Dobson never said that?

I suppose this lie has been repeated so much that people are believing it now. Dobson has been and will continue to be demonized, and you and others are inclined to believe the lies about him rather than look into what the facts might be.

43 posted on 10/04/2007 5:54:18 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: 7thson

I may get my butt flamed for this comparison, but I think it needs to be said.

Dr Dobson saying someone is not Christian is a rough equivalent to Black leaders saying someone is not Black enough.

Just a load of crap to feed an over inflated sense of self worth.


44 posted on 10/04/2007 5:54:20 AM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: 7thson

The Bible says to judge not - lest ye be judged yourself. Dobson was pronouncing judgment on Thompson’s soul - big no-no! I am a Christian, but I will vote for a person based on what kind of individual they are. I will look at their past history and decide for myself if they have core principles, integrity & strength of character. I will not make my decision based on what “denomination” they belong to.

It has been my life’s experience that people that go around wearing their religion on their sleeve are among the biggest sinners and con people I know. I’ll take quiet faith any day over public piousness.


45 posted on 10/04/2007 5:54:44 AM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter. Seriously.)
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To: Hydroshock
My take on Fred is he is not as conservative as I would like, but he is conservative enough.

I thought during the last two presidential elections that GWB was 'conservative enough.' I was wrong.

Not defending the integrity of our borders in order that more millions of illegals, including islamic terrorists, stream across is treasonous.

We need a president who will close the borders, round up the illegals and deport them along with their anchor babies (an anchor around our necks), cut our foreign aid and take a meat-axe to the federal government abolishing many federal bureaucracies including the DOE and then take a stand against any governmental body publishing anything in any language but English.

46 posted on 10/04/2007 5:54:56 AM PDT by fweingart (Tom Tancredo Will Get The Job Done! (How is Mumia Abu-Jamal these days?))
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To: 5Madman2

Will anyone stop the lies about Dobson? He never said Fred was not a Christian! If you have evidence that Dobson said that, please reference it!

Goodness, the lies spread to smear Dobson....


47 posted on 10/04/2007 5:55:21 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: shekkian

I think that’s the attitude that all of us Christian voters have got to have. I don’t want to take it too far, but when I voted for GW, I thought I was getting a different quantity than what I actually got. Voting for the “Christian” candidate is not necessarily the best option, although maybe it actually was in the case of Bush. There wasn’t much of a choice back then, either. But voting for the “Christian” candidate is not a panacea, and ought not necessarily be a given, even if you’re Christian.


48 posted on 10/04/2007 5:56:25 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Neville72
I am a Christian, but I am getting sick and tired of the Dobsons and Robertsons of this world thinking they can speak for me. They are becoming the Jesse Jacksons of the so-called Christian right and they often let their perceived power go to their head.

Good for Thompson. Makes me like him even more.

I want a leader who is fiscally conservative, has moral convictions, believes in small government and the rights of the individual, believes in the strength of the constitution, etc.

I am not voting by "is he Christian enough?".

49 posted on 10/04/2007 5:56:38 AM PDT by gramho12
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To: Brilliant

So you think the GOP is going to be relevant without the Christian vote?


50 posted on 10/04/2007 5:56:57 AM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
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