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We came so close to World War Three that day (More Info)
The Spectator ^ | October 3, 2007 | James Forsyth and Douglas Davis

Posted on 10/04/2007 9:39:34 AM PDT by Parmenio

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To: bert
Matter can neither be created or destroyed. How could they destroy bombgrade fissionable material?

Plutonium is highly combustible. Turn it into plutonium-oxide soot drifting through the air, and it is no longer usable for bomb making

301 posted on 10/05/2007 4:32:45 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: Wiz
F-151? I never heard of it.

F-15 I (letter I as in Israeli variant of the regular US F-15 fighter)

302 posted on 10/05/2007 4:42:51 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: DrGunsforHands

World War III ??? A World War is a catasrophic series of escalating events culminating in massive military mobilizations and subsequent death and destruction. If Syria/Iran were to set off a nuke device in Israel we would wipe their miniscule presence off the face of the earth in a matter of minutes...Game Over - would that be WW III?


303 posted on 10/05/2007 4:47:30 AM PDT by databoss
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To: massgopguy

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Another brush with WW III was when the Mad Bomber of Kosovo ordered the British to attack the Russians at Pristina Airport and then took out the Chinese embassy.”

That was a scary time with old Wesley Clark, the bright one, in charge lead by Slick. And together they blew up the Christians in their “perfect war”.


304 posted on 10/05/2007 5:17:04 AM PDT by mcshot (Only your word and honor are truly yours - never go against either.)
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To: r9etb

It depends on what happens next, of course. Who does Israel hit, besides Syria? Does Iran then pop in with its own nukes, directed at its various enemies?

And what does, say, Egypt do? Turkey?

I can’t imagine that the consequences would be that an exchange between Israel and Syria would result in nothing — the Israelis would undoubtedly hit other targets as well, if only to pre-empt.

Everything you state is possible.

That said, I still think the headline about just missing WWIII is ridiculous based on the participants alone.


305 posted on 10/05/2007 6:09:41 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Jim Noble
If the Israelis (whom God save and protect) hit nuclear material from the air with explosive weapons (and there apparantly IS a big hole in the ground), I think we would have heard about some atmospheric release of isotopes by now.

who says there isn't?

What the really funny part of this is the fact that the engineers, technicians and support staff may have been killed.

You really can't just pull a tech or an engineer off the shelf.

ahhh, so funny. (wiping tear from eyes)... I've said it once before, but I repeat. " I would pay money to be a fly on the wall in the after action report."

306 posted on 10/05/2007 6:23:05 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: crazyshrink

ROTFLMAO


307 posted on 10/05/2007 6:26:01 AM PDT by MattinNJ (I'm pulling for Fred Thompson and Duncan Hunter-...but I'd vote for Rudy against Hillary)
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To: Wiz

That’s the F-15 EYE the I is the Israeli varient.

Different electronics package...


308 posted on 10/05/2007 7:32:52 AM PDT by null and void (<---- Living a life of quiet desperation...)
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To: Parmenio; 3AngelaD; RightWhale; Former Proud Canadian; AntiKev; jackibutterfly; Spktyr; 50sDad; ...
Related story here:

Report: Israel 'blinded' Syrian radar

309 posted on 10/05/2007 7:49:23 AM PDT by null and void (<---- Living a life of quiet desperation...)
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To: gonzo

There is another reason for this strike force bombing. To let them know where the line is that they should not cross.


310 posted on 10/05/2007 7:54:26 AM PDT by BobS (I><P>)
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To: BurbankKarl
"Plus we gave them IFF codes."

So they used the same code of the day as we were. The transponders must be switched off after everybody knows each other. The swept freq, power, pulses, wavelengths that are ECM would blind the transponder anyway. Only a handful of people know what the code is. This was a successful operation. I give it five ***** for secrecy.

311 posted on 10/05/2007 8:18:46 AM PDT by BobS (I><P>)
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ping for later read


312 posted on 10/05/2007 8:39:31 AM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: CougarGA7

“Infact it’s closer to Iraq than it is to Turkey.

Anyone have a bead on where the target area actaully was?”

That was my thought. Dayr as Zawr (As Suwar) is also on the road to Mosul. What if Iraq was going to be the actual target?


313 posted on 10/05/2007 8:39:53 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: SampleMan

It’s kind of hard to have a “fun” discussion of Electronic Warfare in an unclassified environment. Although I have been out for 14 years I get a little nervous about describing exactly what techniques were used against me, what effect it had on my equipment, why it was or was not successful.

The best unclassified book I ever read about the subject was called, “The Enemy is Listening” written by Aileen Clayton who was a German linguist and intercept operator during WWII. She covers a lot so subjects outside of that specific field that are very interesting and the foundation of everything else that happened in the field since.

I am still fascinated by the subject and enjoy trying to read between the lines.


314 posted on 10/05/2007 9:05:18 AM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: tcrlaf

Having your radar system suddenly go “dark” is in itself a warning of impending attack. To have your radar defenses hacked and manipulated, keeps you in the warm fuzzy zone (that all is well). By the time you learn of the raid, the attackers are gone, and you are left wondering just what happened. Sounds like a great weapons system.


315 posted on 10/05/2007 9:20:33 AM PDT by twntaipan (To say someone is a liar and a Democrat is to be redundant.)
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To: Salem

Thanks for the ping. BMFLR.


316 posted on 10/05/2007 10:00:05 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Calvin Locke
It was to contain the plutonium that they worked so long and hard to extract and refine, instead of scattering it all over the site.

That's some cool trivia.

317 posted on 10/05/2007 10:01:46 AM PDT by scan59 (Let consumers dictate market policies. Government just gets in the way.)
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To: Dog
How warheads made an unplanned flight (B-52 flight Minot to Barksdale AGM-129 Snafu)

Curious that no one has connected this dot.

318 posted on 10/05/2007 11:03:18 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe; Southack

Southack has connected that dot...


319 posted on 10/05/2007 11:08:33 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Spktyr

FYI, there have been at least two nuclear weapons used in combat since WW2. During the Sino-Soviet border wars (WW2-1993) had two events recorded on seismographs in the West that could only have been large tactical nukes or small strategic ones.
***First I’ve heard of this. The first nuclear exchange came with a whimper rather than a bang.


320 posted on 10/05/2007 11:28:20 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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