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In soldiers' shoes [Soldiers Shot Mom and Convoy Runs Over Baby Multiple Times]
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 10/4/07 | Stephan Salisbury

Posted on 10/04/2007 10:52:42 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul

In soldiers' shoes

Temple theater students, acting out the recollections of U.S. troops in Iraq, learn some uncomfortable truths.

By Stephan Salisbury

Inquirer Culture Writer

They are, for the most part, in their early 20s, and by turns passionate, impulsive, idealistic, serious, funny, inquisitive.

What could distinguish these Temple University theater students - humping from class to class, hanging out, diving into bull sessions - from their doubles hunkered down in Baghdad, staring down a blasted Fallujah street, gulping a Coke on a shadeless day?

The answer could be as brief as a gunshot, as long as a memoir, as cryptic as fate. But beginning with tonight's opening, at 7:30 at Temple's Randall Theater, these 11 students will crawl inside the skins of actual Iraq war veterans in a difficult effort to convey on stage the real deal of death and life in the desert.

They will bring the voices of war home.

The play, In Conflict, is a world premiere adapted from former Daily News reporter Yvonne Latty's book of the same name, a collection of interviews with Iraq veterans. Directed by Temple's resident artistic director, Douglas C. Wager, In Conflict runs through Oct. 13.

"When the war started happening, I was living in Virginia, which is a very military area, and I heard about it constantly. And after a while you hear about it less, and then it's just this thing that's still going on," recalled senior Ethan Haymes, 22. "But one thing that I really admired about both of my characters is that they were both men of action - Army Capt. Jon Soltz and Patrick Murphy, who's now a congressman. Doing this is different from bringing a normal script to the stage because we have a duty to these people, and I feel that it's part of our calling as college students to say what they say, to have their story heard. There are certain things, and you're reminded about this more and more as you try and think about the war and solutions; there are certain things we just don't know because we haven't been there."

None of the students has been a soldier. None has been on a battlefield. But they have entered the war and these voices of the war by literally listening to the raw audio tapes from Latty's interviews. They absorb the disjointed cadences of adrenaline-laced action, the broken sentences of rationalization, the terseness and lassitude of disappointment.

One of the characters portrayed by Damon Williams, 20, is Herold Noel, a vet who came home to not a little hostility and mammoth indifference. He quickly found himself homeless and fending off devouring memories.

"He was on patrol," Williams said, trying to wrap his own mind around the story. "There was a tank that was flipped over. It was in a ditch. . . . A crowd of onlookers was surrounding them. They were just onlookers, but it's a civilian war, you don't know if one of them has a bomb or anything. Everybody's telling them to back up. Back up. Back up. Back up. And this one lady started walking toward them very slow. So they don't know. And she was holding something in her arms. They don't know what it is. Could be a bomb. Could be anything. Tell her to back up. She's not listening.

"So Herold ends up firing and shoots the lady in the head. And what was in her hands falls, rolls, and ends up being a baby. And while the baby is on the ground, Herold is stuck. He's just shot this woman who was holding a baby thinking that it was something that it wasn't. Goes to pick up the baby. Another convoy rolls over the baby. Multiple times. And that's something that he describes, he still has nightmares about it every day."

What do you do with such an experience? Where can you put it?

"People constantly say the soldiers are doing horrible things," said Stan Sinyakov, 21, a senior. "You go to war, it's a different life and it's a different lifestyle. There's a very fine big red line between society, civilians, the laws and the rules you abide by, and what happens in war. You will kill when you go to war. You will shoot someone. You are trained for these things. . . . Then you come back to society and there's no room for you. You're too different now. They come back and it's like, 'Well we don't kill here. We don't blow things up. Are you crazy?' It's like, 'I'm sorry. I was trained that way. My mind works like that.' And that's why nobody wants to talk about that stuff, who they killed."

For the students, entering the cloaked worlds of these veterans has worked a transformation on their own lives. They pay attention to the news. They read the newspapers. They have become linked to the larger political universe.

"That was something I struggled with a lot at the beginning of this process," said junior Amanda Holston, 20, who portrays Kelly Dougherty, leader of the Philadelphia-based Iraq Veterans Against the War. "I had a lot, and still hold a lot, of guilt that I didn't look into pursuing all of the facts about the war and really educating myself about what's happening over there and really caring about it. Until now. Until I had to do it. I'm sure all of us feel that. And now that I recognize it, I'm trying to make up for lost time. I'm really trying to know everything I can and keep up to date. It's changed my viewpoint and life in that way. Because I'm certainly not going to be apathetic about the war after this. You get a glimpse of what it actually is and you can't stay the same."

Senior Sam Paul, 21, said the critical part of the performance lay in letting the voices of each individual soldier breathe, no matter what the content of the story told.

"You draw your own conclusions," he said. "We're not saying the war's bad. We're not saying the war's good."

Sean Lally, 20, a junior, broke in: "It's about the truth."

 


Performances at Randall Theater, 2020 N. 13th St., are tonight at 7:30, tomorrow at 8, Saturday at 2 and 8, Monday through Oct. 11 at 7:30; Oct. 12 at 8, and Oct. 13 at 2 and 8. Tickets are $20; $15 for seniors, students and Temple employees, and free for Temple students with GAF. To purchase tickets, call 1-800-298-4200, or visit www.liacourascenter.com online.

Contact culture writer Stephan Salisbury at 215-854-5594 or ssalisbury@phillynews.com..



TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: axissally; babykillers; harryreidmia; lies; propaganda; slander
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To: Doctor Raoul
Well said, Doctor. That's exactly what the left is up too here.
41 posted on 10/04/2007 1:15:08 PM PDT by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Well said, Doctor. That's exactly what the left is up to here.
42 posted on 10/04/2007 1:15:20 PM PDT by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Here’s a brief story about Herold Noel, with links to a lot of others. I see nothing wrong with these kids telling his story. He’s certainly no anti-war activist.

Yeah, and you're legit too. And pigs fly.

Everyone can click on http://www.archive.org/details/Herold and see if they believe you or their lying eyes.

The guy in green Army field jacket and the leather cap is David Cline, long time Vietnam Veteran Against the War, the guy who was the advisor to the Iraq Veterans Against the War.

Herold stinks and you're starting to smell too. You and your link to Wesley Clark's crap.

43 posted on 10/04/2007 1:15:51 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: FMBass
“humping from class to class”!!!

"Carrying a heavy load on a long march" is one definition of humping. There is another definition, exemplified by the infamous Tennessee Leghound ... perhaps that has more to do with these "students".

44 posted on 10/04/2007 1:16:24 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
...it’s not all that hard to round up some Iraq vets who want to rant against the war and the Bush Administration...

The article clearly states it's got the IVAW view point of Kelly Dougherty, and the only thing you left out is that IVAW bashes the military, Bush and America.

45 posted on 10/04/2007 1:18:46 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

When you get some time, post a few things in defense of Al Hubbard.


46 posted on 10/04/2007 1:20:21 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Every link I looked at quoted Herold expressing full support for the war. He’s just pissed about the lack of support for returning veterans, and I don’t think that makes him a left-wing anti-war activist.


47 posted on 10/04/2007 1:22:23 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Screw you, and the anti-American commie you rode in on. That's part and parcel of the anti-war activist's lies. They market grief. They understand that public has tremendous gratitude and sympathy for them, especially the wounded and fallen. So they maintain a stready drum beat about how the VA and Walter Reed are lacking. Guess what, when Washingtpon Post attacked, literally trashed, Walter Reed, the soldiers their held their own press conference to set the record straight.

Take your phony concern for the vets and stick it where the sun doesn't shine, i.e., the center of your soul.

48 posted on 10/04/2007 1:31:57 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
He’s just pissed about the lack of support for returning veterans...

You commie bastards tried the same BS after World War II. Look in your propoganda files for your brochures, "Pin A Medal On Joe" and "Who Ruptured Our Duck", that made the same pitch in the late 40s.

49 posted on 10/04/2007 1:34:28 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
The article clearly states it's got the IVAW view point of Kelly Dougherty

Umm, no it doesn't. It says that ONE of the performers portrays Kelly Dougherty. It would be pretty hard to put on a performance that's attempting to be balanced, without including some views from the anti-war side. But I don't see any evidence here that it isn't balanced. Believe me, at a lot of schools, there are all sorts of performances, rallies, displays, etc, being put on that are 100% anti-war ranting -- they wouldn't dream of including the voice of a veteran who says he was proud to serve there. No indication that this Temple performance falls into that category.

50 posted on 10/04/2007 1:35:49 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Doctor Raoul

Forgot your meds this morning, eh?


51 posted on 10/04/2007 1:37:42 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Umm, no it doesn't. It says that ONE of the performers portrays Kelly Dougherty.

Really grasping at straws aren't we Comrade.

The actress portrays IVAW Kelly Dougherty, a leader in the IVAW, but not the IVAW view point of IVAW's Kelly Dougherty. So where did the character's lines come from, an old Ronald Reagan speech?

Such BS.

52 posted on 10/04/2007 1:38:45 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

People won’t stand by this time and let you trash the people serving in the military during this war. Ain’t going to happen hippie.


53 posted on 10/04/2007 1:40:06 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: darkwing104

I cannot repeat what I said out loud when reading this.


54 posted on 10/04/2007 1:40:19 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
What could distinguish these Temple University theater students - humping from class to class, hanging out, diving into bull sessions - from their doubles hunkered down in Baghdad, staring down a blasted Fallujah street, gulping a Coke on a shadeless day? The YELLOW STRIPE down their backs!
55 posted on 10/04/2007 1:41:25 PM PDT by Palladin (Satan to Fidel: "Let me light your cigar.")
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To: Doctor Raoul

THAT character shows the IVAW viewpoint, but there’s no indication that a preponderance of the characters do. Herold Noel certainly does not.


56 posted on 10/04/2007 1:42:59 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: SolidWood
B.G. Burkett, in his book about how the Vietnam generation of military was slandered, pointed out that it wasn't enough that the war was wrong, it wasn't enough that America was wrong, the soldiers had to be wrong too.

Ready "Stolen Valor" and compare it to what is happening today and you'll be amazed.

57 posted on 10/04/2007 1:44:35 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Days of Vietnam revisited....


58 posted on 10/04/2007 1:45:02 PM PDT by Gone_Postal (We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
THAT character shows the IVAW viewpoint, but there’s no indication that a preponderance of the characters do. Herold Noel certainly does not.

Certianly....

You've been to the play? Hell no, and you're lying.

59 posted on 10/04/2007 1:45:50 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Weasly Clark is a hideous, traitorous, Hillary Clinton bootlicker.

Can’t type the rest of what I think of him. I might be censored.

*&&^%$X@#$!!!


60 posted on 10/04/2007 1:46:13 PM PDT by Palladin (Satan to Fidel: "Let me light your cigar.")
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