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Doc, what's up with snooping? (Pediatricians turning kids into snitches)
Boston Herald ^ | Thursday, October 4, 2007 | By Michael Graham

Posted on 10/04/2007 4:14:11 PM PDT by SubGeniusX

They’re watching you right now.

They counted every beer you drank during last night’s Red Sox game.

They see you sneaking out to the garage for a smoke.

They know if you’ve got a gun, and where you keep it.

They’re your kids, and they’re the National Security Agency of the Nanny State.

I found this out after my 13-year-old daughter’s annual checkup. Her pediatrician grilled her about alcohol and drug abuse.

Not my daughter’s boozing. Mine.

“The doctor wanted to know how much you and mom drink, and if I think it’s too much,” my daughter told us afterward, rolling her eyes in that exasperated 13-year-old way. “She asked if you two did drugs, or if there are drugs in the house.”

“What!” I yelped. “Who told her about my stasher, I mean, ‘It’s an outrage!’ ”

I turned to my wife. “You took her to the doctor. Why didn’t you say something?”

She couldn’t, she told me, because she knew nothing about it. All these questions were asked in private, without my wife’s knowledge or consent.

“The doctor wanted to know how we get along,” my daughter continued. Then she paused. “And if, well, Daddy, if you made me feel uncomfortable.”

Great. I send my daughter to the pediatrician to find out if she’s fit to play lacrosse, and the doctor spends her time trying to find out if her mom and I are drunk, drug-addicted sex criminals.

We’re not alone, either. Thanks to guidelines issued by the American Academy of Pediatrics and supported by the commonwealth, doctors across Massachusetts are interrogating our kids about mom and dad’s “bad” behavior.

We used to be proud parents. Now, thanks to the AAP, we’re “persons of interest.”

The paranoia over parents is so strong that the AAP encourages doctors to ignore “legal barriers and deference to parental involvement” and shake the children down for all the inside information they can get.

And that information doesn’t stay with the doctor, either.

Debbie is a mom from Uxbridge who was in the examination room when the pediatrician asked her 5-year-old, “Does Daddy own a gun?”

When the little girl said yes, the doctor began grilling her and her mom about the number and type of guns, how they are stored, etc.

If the incident had ended there, it would have merely been annoying.

But when a friend in law enforcement let Debbie know that her doctor had filed a report with the police about her family’s (entirely legal) gun ownership, she got mad.

She also got a new doctor.

In fact, the problem of anti-gun advocacy in the examining room has become so widespread that some states are considering legislation to stop it.

Last year, my 7-year-old was asked about my guns during his physical examination. He promptly announced to the doctor that his father is the proud owner of a laser sighted plasma rifle perfect for destroying Throggs.

At least as of this writing, no police report has been filed.

“I still like my previous pediatrician,” Debbie told me. “She seemed embarrassed to ask the gun questions and apologized afterward. But she didn’t seem to have a choice.”

Of course doctors have a choice.

They could choose, for example, to ask me about my drunken revels, and not my children.

They could choose not to put my children in this terrible position.

They could choose, even here in Massachusetts, to leave their politics out of the office.

But the doctors aren’t asking us parents.

They’re asking our kids.

Worst of all, they’re asking all kids about sexual abuse without any provocation or probable cause.

The American Academy of Pediatrics has declared all parents guilty until proven innocent.

And then they wonder why we drink.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 2amendmentsisters; bang; banglist; doctors; hillarycare; nannystate; privacy; socialism
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Just being a parent is now sufficient grounds for being suspected of drunken, drug-abusing, kid-diddling criminal behavior.
1 posted on 10/04/2007 4:14:16 PM PDT by SubGeniusX
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To: Eric Blair 2084; traviskicks; Gabz
They’re watching you right now. They counted every beer you drank during last night’s Red Sox game. They see you sneaking out to the garage for a smoke. They know if you’ve got a gun, and where you keep it.

They’re your kids, and they’re the National Security Agency of the Nanny State.

PING

2 posted on 10/04/2007 4:16:39 PM PDT by SubGeniusX ($29.95 Guarantees Your Salvation!!! Or TRIPLE Your Money Back!!!)
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To: SubGeniusX

Had a PA (docotr’s assitant) ask me about whether I owned guns. I said “none of your business” and immediately changed doctors. Asking this question in Texas is a good “revenue reduction program” for MDs.


3 posted on 10/04/2007 4:18:24 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: SubGeniusX; Allegra; Tijeras_Slim; RockinRight; Hoodlum91; najida
Yet another reason to be a FREERIDER!!!

FREERIDER, Ping!!

4 posted on 10/04/2007 4:18:34 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.../ Get well Soon John Force!!!)
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To: SubGeniusX

And the oh so helpful school “counselors”, who would be drain shovelers without their government jobs, are equally complicit. I had one trying to find problems in elementary school. We (the parents) got her moved on down the line. Can’t fire ‘em unfortunately.


5 posted on 10/04/2007 4:22:21 PM PDT by doodad
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To: DaveLoneRanger; Joe Brower
Debbie is a mom from Uxbridge who was in the examination room when the pediatrician asked her 5-year-old, “Does Daddy own a gun?”
When the little girl said yes, the doctor began grilling her and her mom about the number and type of guns, how they are stored, etc.
If the incident had ended there, it would have merely been annoying.

But when a friend in law enforcement let Debbie know that her doctor had filed a report with the police about her family’s (entirely legal) gun ownership, she got mad.

Thought you guys might be interested in this ... PING

6 posted on 10/04/2007 4:22:58 PM PDT by SubGeniusX ($29.95 Guarantees Your Salvation!!! Or TRIPLE Your Money Back!!!)
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To: SubGeniusX

I understand the motivation, but the practice really creeps me out.
Yes, some parents are not to be trusted - but I am afraid I trust government so much less that I am willing to take my chances with the parents.


7 posted on 10/04/2007 4:25:08 PM PDT by Glenmore
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To: SubGeniusX; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; metesky; ...

Nanny State PING.........


8 posted on 10/04/2007 4:26:38 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: SubGeniusX

And just wait until you get Hillary!Care. The snooping’s going to be even worse.


9 posted on 10/04/2007 4:28:06 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: SubGeniusX

Man, if my son ever comes back from an appointment and tells me that his doc asked him personal questions like these, said doc might just get his own trip to the emergency room on a stretcher.


10 posted on 10/04/2007 4:28:21 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Glenmore

This is a preview of what we can expect under Hillary’s health plan. Toe the line, America!!


11 posted on 10/04/2007 4:29:33 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: CholeraJoe; secret garden; Gabz

OOopppps.


12 posted on 10/04/2007 4:30:23 PM PDT by tioga
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To: SubGeniusX

This is a joke, isn’t it?


13 posted on 10/04/2007 4:32:05 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: SubGeniusX

They’re doing it in Michigan, too. I took my 6 yr old daughter to the ER for strep throat and they asked her if she was afraid to go home, or if anyone was hurting her. She looked at me like, “Huh?”


14 posted on 10/04/2007 4:34:19 PM PDT by mombyprofession
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To: SubGeniusX

Turning your parents into the cops. How Nazi.


15 posted on 10/04/2007 4:34:22 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: BlessedBeGod

You’re absolutely right! But it won’t end with just snooping.


16 posted on 10/04/2007 4:34:25 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: Proud2BeRight
This is a joke, isn’t it?

Nope...it's worse than that.Much worse.

It's Massachusetts.

17 posted on 10/04/2007 4:40:10 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If martyrdom is so cool,why does Osama Obama go to such great lengths to avoid it?)
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To: SubGeniusX
What fools we would be(!) if we cannot see spying on families and the anti-gun agendas being a part of any socialized medicine system. If the American people accept socialized medicine, eventually all physicians and dentists and chiropractors and foot masseurs will be required to ask questions about what we have in our homes and what our daily activities and habits are.
18 posted on 10/04/2007 4:40:58 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Gay State Conservative

And the man who created that system is running for president as a Republican.


19 posted on 10/04/2007 4:41:41 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: SubGeniusX

Our son is 19 now, but when he was 6, he and his dad were playing soccer in the back yard and as my son dove to block a ball (he was the goalie,) he injured his hand. We took him to our local ER, and he had a broken bone and growth plate in his hand. We were all “quizzed” separately as to what actually happened. i guess they wanted to know if dad had abused him and broken the kid’s hand. And this was 13 years ago. From this article it seems like things have gotten out of hand.


20 posted on 10/04/2007 4:42:32 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: John Leland 1789

I’ll be perfectly happy to lie to every single one of them.


21 posted on 10/04/2007 4:43:23 PM PDT by bfree (liberalism is the enemy of freedom!!!)
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To: bfree

That will get you charged with the felony of “lying to a state officer.”


22 posted on 10/04/2007 4:45:43 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

You might ask him tonight if it has aready happened. You might be surprised.


23 posted on 10/04/2007 4:48:01 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: darkangel82
And the man who created that system is running for president as a Republican.

I'm not a huge fan of Romney but don't give him credit for things he didn't do.One thing that people outside of Massachusetts must understand about Romney is that for his entire tenure as governor is that the RATS held about 90% of the seats in both houses of the legislature.He was,for all practical purposes,a totally powerless governor.

24 posted on 10/04/2007 4:49:20 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If martyrdom is so cool,why does Osama Obama go to such great lengths to avoid it?)
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To: Right Cal Gal

Hillary’s health plan-

http://www.onthefencefilms.com/video/brainsurgery.html


25 posted on 10/04/2007 4:50:16 PM PDT by Peelod (I do renounce Hillary! and all her pomps and works.)
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; AlwaysFree; ...

If “CWII” does happen, will we have to shoot the pediatricians?


26 posted on 10/04/2007 4:51:00 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments.)
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To: SubGeniusX

I’d be highly suspicious about what the doc might be doing if he/she insisted on some alone with my child without me present.

Some of those docs may be setting themselves up for a complaint to DFACs with that kind of behavior.


27 posted on 10/04/2007 4:51:09 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: SubGeniusX

Anybody read Orwell’s 1984? Child snitches were an important part of the gov’t oversight.

I’d be highly suspicious about what the doc might be doing if he/she insisted on some alone with my child without me present.

Some of those docs may be setting themselves up for a complaint to DFACs with that kind of behavior.


28 posted on 10/04/2007 4:52:04 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: mombyprofession
When I was a little kid, my parents wouldn’t let the doctor take me into a room without them being there also. I used to think they were nuts. It used to really bug me when they made a stink over it. Now I understand. My parents were actually quite clever and not the annoying goofs I used to think they were.
29 posted on 10/04/2007 4:53:04 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: SubGeniusX

I am a Second Amendment Sister. (No kidding)

Go here:

http://www.2asisters.org/education/PhysicianAffidavit.pdf

Print it out and make any quack sign it that will be discussing this issue with you or your kids.

NEVER let them see your kid alone. They have NO right to do so.


30 posted on 10/04/2007 4:53:09 PM PDT by Eaker (If illegal immigrants were so great for an economy; Mexico would be building a wall to keep them in)
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To: webstersII

See my #29


31 posted on 10/04/2007 4:54:05 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: SubGeniusX

It’s no wonder medical care is so expensive; instead of treating your ills they spend time with this crap.


32 posted on 10/04/2007 4:54:07 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Gabz

See my post# 30.

Might be worth another ping.

(Thanks for ping me!)


33 posted on 10/04/2007 4:54:55 PM PDT by Eaker (If illegal immigrants were so great for an economy; Mexico would be building a wall to keep them in)
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To: Proud2BeRight

No. From reading some of the things Dr.’s have done I no longer answer questions they ask truthfully. A man in the next County was asked how much he drank and lost his driver’s license for drinking a six pack IN HIS OWN HOME. Another guy lost his job because he had three,-four cigars a week. They ask ME “did you quit drinking?” ‘Yup.’ “did you quit smoking?” ‘Yup.’ “did you cut your d#ck off?” ‘Yup.’


34 posted on 10/04/2007 4:57:37 PM PDT by Safetgiver (So simple, even a Muslim can do it.)
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To: Gabz

This crap was started and promoted during the first period the Klintons were in office. As far as I’m concerned, those two are solely responsible -well, along with their allies-the media-for the birth and fanning out of the nanny state. Which is why I’m filled with so much hatred for them. God help us if they get in again.


35 posted on 10/04/2007 5:02:29 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney ("We just can't trust the American people to make the correct choices."-Hillary)
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To: bfree
You will have to script your children prior to visits to physicians, and your children will have to be good liers/actors, too.

This questioning, as many posting replies are testifying, is nothing new, but it is getting much more invasive. We believe it is part of the gear-up for nationaized health-care

We had a son who required palate surgery some years ago. While waiting for the conclusion of the surgery, two women approached us in the waiting area and INSISTED that we enroll our son in various welfare programs. These women are paid to go through private records, locate parents, and persuade them to “nationalize” their children. While our son was recuperating, we never entered the hospital facility without being approached by these women

36 posted on 10/04/2007 5:03:14 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney

Yes, I was asked about gun ownership by a doctor in New Mexico in 1999.


37 posted on 10/04/2007 5:04:23 PM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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To: webstersII
Anybody read Orwell’s 1984? Child snitches were an important part of the gov’t oversight.

Big part of Hitler's too - so why aren't we getting this out to the media and to the people - this must be stopped NOW - It HAS to be unconstitutional.

Bet Fred would have something to say about this...

In addition, it's child abuse! Think of how it makes a child feel.

38 posted on 10/04/2007 5:08:27 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: John Leland 1789
These women are paid to go through private records,

That's against federal law. You should've reported them for that.

39 posted on 10/04/2007 5:09:17 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: Peanut Gallery

ping


40 posted on 10/04/2007 5:10:19 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (I, Duncan Lee Hunter, do solemnly swear...)
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney

The problem, my dear friend, is that many of their sycophants reside right here on FR.


41 posted on 10/04/2007 5:18:03 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Gabz

Statists are the majority on here now, unfortunately.


42 posted on 10/04/2007 5:19:07 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: darkangel82

It seriously bothers me.


43 posted on 10/04/2007 5:22:36 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Gabz

I’ve left FR twice over it. A third time and I might not return.


44 posted on 10/04/2007 5:24:34 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: SubGeniusX
Our pediatrician asked me once if we had any guns in the house, and I said no - they are all in the bunker. He has never asked anything about guns again. There will never be a time that either of our boys is alone with a doctor or nurse in that office.

There is a sign on the building right by the door that says concealed weapons of any kind are not allowed in the building. There are pamphlets on the dangers of guns in the lobby for parents to read. When we were going there frequently (well baby visits, ear infections, etc.) I used to take NRA coloring books and leave them on the kid's table and in the kid's reading rack.

Come to think of it, it's time to see what other Eddie Eagle stuff I can buy to drop off there next time we go! Tee hee.

45 posted on 10/04/2007 5:33:29 PM PDT by Mrs. P (I am most seriously displeased. - Lady Catherine de Bourg)
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To: SubGeniusX

Massachusetts pediatricians were doing this same thing back in the early 1980’s when I had my son. I was shocked by the questions asked to a two, three yr old. We moved out of Massachusetts.


46 posted on 10/04/2007 5:34:24 PM PDT by mojo114
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To: darkangel82
“These women are paid to go through private records, . . .” (JL)

“That’s against federal law. You should’ve reported them for that.” (darkange)


Oh, believe me, when you go to hospital staff about this problem, at very high levels, they can cite loop hole after loop hole. We had money to pay our own hospital bills (that’s what they didn’t like - we weren’t socialists). But we didn’t have money to retain attorneys.

Oh, yes, we complained. What we did manage to do was have a cover page placed in our son’s records denying access to any persons employed by or associated with the agency for which those women worked. A Ph.D. speech analyst on staff there (one of the people very kindly working with our son) took up our side on this and wrote several letters on our behalf. This brought a cessation to anyone contacting us.

This Ph.D. (the most learned on the whole team - he provided the information that told the surgeons the extent of work needed. This man made the (motion X-ray) videos of our son’s throat, palate and adenoid pad area, and had the knack of explaining the procedures to us in a way anyone could grasp. . . and most compassionate.) had once walked up on the socialists trying to question us. He shoo’d them off for us that time. I told him what they had been trying to do. He was NOT happy.

47 posted on 10/04/2007 5:36:23 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789

Hopefully that doctor fired them. I would have said “Listen up here, what you are doing is illegal, and if you do it again I will call the authorities.” Sometimes you have to scare people like that.


48 posted on 10/04/2007 5:41:10 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: darkangel82

That Ph.D. was one of hundreds of doctors on staff there. He wasn’t their boss and had no hiring/firing authority.


49 posted on 10/04/2007 5:45:16 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789

Still, having the FBI looking for you would be a lot worse than getting fired from a job.


50 posted on 10/04/2007 5:46:49 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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