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The Values Test [Dobson Will Back Third-Party if Giuliani is Nominated]
The New York Times ^ | October 4, 2007 | JAMES C. DOBSON

Posted on 10/04/2007 10:19:26 PM PDT by Soft Bigotry

After two hours of deliberation, we voted on a resolution that can be summarized as follows: If neither of the two major political parties nominates an individual who pledges himself or herself to the sanctity of human life, we will join others in voting for a minor-party candidate. Those agreeing with the proposition were invited to stand. The result was almost unanimous.

The other issue discussed at length concerned the advisability of creating a third party if Democrats and Republicans do indeed abandon the sanctity of human life and other traditional family values. Though there was some support for the proposal, no consensus emerged.

Speaking personally, and not for the organization I represent or the other leaders gathered in Salt Lake City, I firmly believe that the selection of a president should begin with a recommitment to traditional moral values and beliefs. Those include the sanctity of human life, the institution of marriage, and other inviolable pro-family principles. Only after that determination is made can the acceptability of a nominee be assessed.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 4thparty; biblebanger; blackmail; dobson; dumprudy; elections; fbifiles; giuliani; hillary; hillaryssecretpolice; hillarysstooge; hitlery; jamesdobson; pitchforkpat; rds; skeletonsincloset
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To: american_ranger
Your post is THE scummiest, most deplorable, vile I have read here at Free Republic.

Your words are unconscionable!...You are unconscionable!

161 posted on 10/05/2007 4:48:36 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: Soft Bigotry
I wonder if Dobson isn’t testing his own political power here; maybe he wants to run at the top of the ticket of this third party?

I'm thinking you are correct. Dobson is starting to act like a grandstanding demogogue.

162 posted on 10/05/2007 4:48:37 AM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: bvw

bvw: “Our hardest-working friends are our enemies! Bash friends! Bash Dobson!”


163 posted on 10/05/2007 4:49:38 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: COgamer

I totally agree with you. This is a conservative website. I don’t think any one even answered you.


164 posted on 10/05/2007 4:50:55 AM PDT by seemoAR (Absolute power corrupts absolutely)
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To: Soft Bigotry

Does Dobson seriously consider Mitt Romney to be an acceptable choice for President? What does Dobson think about Mitt Romney?


165 posted on 10/05/2007 4:51:15 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: bigjoesaddle
There are times I briefly think a Christian third party is a good idea...then I remember we are up against Satan HERself.

Well, if you literally believe Hillary Clinton is Satan, I think you'd have to go "Christian third party", right?

166 posted on 10/05/2007 4:51:26 AM PDT by Soft Bigotry
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To: BibChr

bvw: “Don’t elect Hillery by omission! Vote the GOP. Fight for your candidate in the primary, support whomever wins the party nod. Otherwise bow before Queen Hillary and Consort Billy Jeff”


167 posted on 10/05/2007 4:55:52 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Soft Bigotry
I hope Dobson doesn't encourage another party and end up handing the whole thing to Hillary.

Carolyn

168 posted on 10/05/2007 4:57:48 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: 6ppc
“I wonder if Dobson isn’t testing his own political power here; maybe he wants to run at the top of the ticket of this third party?”

I don’t believe Dr. Dobson is interested in a presidential run. But what confuses me is that there are one or two alternative parties he should already know about and be interested in, if he’s thinking about endorsing a third party.
169 posted on 10/05/2007 5:03:12 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Soft Bigotry
James Dobson 'contributes' to the right like Al Shaprton contributes to african americans. He's a poverty pimp of a different flavor, in it for himself.

He's not nearly as important as he cries out to be, plus, if there is any third party that takes off, it would be an independent Bloomberg run which could really cause electoral havoc to both of the two parties strategies

A pro-life single issue platform would be in a '4th' or '5th party' position. Barely a blip, a craction of a percent, not a double digit result.

  Presidential
Candidate
Vice Presidential
Candidate
Political
Party
Popular Vote Electoral Vote
B George W. Bush Richard Cheney Republican 62,040,610 50.73% 286 53.16%
R John Kerry John Edwards Democratic 59,028,439 48.27% 251 46.65%
G Ralph Nader Peter Camejo Independent 463,655 0.38% 0 0.00%
Y Michael Badnarik Richard Campagna Libertarian 397,265 0.32% 0 0.00%
Y Michael Peroutka Charles Baldwin Constitution 144,499 0.12% 0 0.00%
Y David Cobb Pat LaMarche Green 119,859 0.10% 0 0.00%
Y Write-ins - - 36,585 0.03% 0 0.00%
Y Leonard Peltier Janice Jordan Peace & Freedom 27,607 0.02% 0 0.00%
Y Walt Brown Mary Alice Herbert Socialist 10,822 0.01% 0 0.00%
Y Roger Calero Arrin Hawkins Socialist Workers 10,795 0.01% 0 0.00%
Y None of these Candidates - - 3,688 0.00% 0 0.00%
Y Thomas Harens Jennifer Ryan Christian Freedom 2,387 0.00% 0 0.00%
Y Gene Amondson Leroy Pletten Concerns of People 1,944 0.00% 0 0.00%
Y Bill Van Auken Jim Lawrence Socialist Equality 1,857 0.00% 0 0.00%
Y John Parker Teresa Gutierrez Workers World 1,646 0.00% 0 0.00%
Y Charles Jay Marilyn Taylor Personal Choice 946 0.00% 0 0.00%
Y Stanford Andress Irene Deasy Independent 804 0.00% 0 0.00%
Y Earl Dodge Howard Lydick Prohibition 140 0.00% 0 0.00%
Seal


170 posted on 10/05/2007 5:09:46 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Brimack34

You can have Alito, Scalia, Roberts (who Giuliani specifically mentioned as the kind of justices he would nominate)

OR

Stevens, Ginsberg, or Kennedy


171 posted on 10/05/2007 5:12:21 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Soft Bigotry

Ya know, I’m religous, I’m right-wing, and I don’t like Rudy Guiliani as Republican candidate for president (he’d be fine as a Democrat...). But I think this Dobson person is really full of himself.

Go Fred!


172 posted on 10/05/2007 5:12:54 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: Soft Bigotry

This makes me think less of Dobson. These “leaders” who think they have such power that they can influence what others think and do, have an inflated view of themselves.


173 posted on 10/05/2007 5:15:32 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (Democrats--Al Qaeda's best friends)
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To: Dustbunny
James Dobson

is not this guy

He's the equivalent of this fraud


174 posted on 10/05/2007 5:17:09 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69

Wikipedia says the Constitution Party is only on the ballot in 15 states, and not even as “the Constitution Party” in about half of those - so it’d have to be some sort of independent run, and I don’t know what the rules are on getting on the ballot that way.


175 posted on 10/05/2007 5:17:21 AM PDT by Soft Bigotry
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To: Albion Wilde

See #139

And there is enough unrest to pull of a hijacking of the Republican conservative voters who are attracted to a “Conservative Republican Party.”

The bottom line, though, is that anyone who nominates Rudy DESIRES to lose to Hillary. They know that conservative Christians can never vote for a pro-abortion candidate.

They should switch to a candidate like Hunter, Huckabee, Thompson, who support life. As it stands, Rudy has zero chance of winning.


176 posted on 10/05/2007 5:17:26 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: Soft Bigotry

Why don’t you throw a temper tantrum there Dobbs?

Supporting a third party candidate will only help Hillary.


177 posted on 10/05/2007 5:19:57 AM PDT by Vanbasten
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To: Soft Bigotry

History repeats. No lesson learned. Welcome Hillary and Socialism.


178 posted on 10/05/2007 5:21:48 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: Ol' Sparky
Then, you're stating you'd rather be stuck without a chance at conservative President for eight years and are willing to see the Republicans lose considerably more seats in Congress and become an entrenched minority for, likely, a decade.

So if FT is the great candidate being espoused so rabidly on every thread here, then why are so many here concerned about Rudy being nominated? This just doesn't make sense to me.

179 posted on 10/05/2007 5:33:21 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: Albion Wilde
We got Bill Clinton because of Ross Perot.

Wrong. We got Bill Clinton because we chose Bob Dole. If we get Hillary it will be because we chose Giuliani.

180 posted on 10/05/2007 5:38:39 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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