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FBI Investigation Urged in Web Posting Peter Lynch FLAG
albuquerque journal ^ | Friday, October 5, 2007 | Martin Salazar

Posted on 10/05/2007 12:01:51 AM PDT by Peter R. Lynch

The New Mexico League of United Latin American Citizens is calling for a federal investigation of the student who ripped down a Mexican flag at the University of New Mexico last month. "We are hoping that the FBI would open up an investigation, not really for what he did to the flag but really it goes deeper," said John Moya, president of one of LULAC's Albuquerque councils.

LULAC bills itself as the largest Latino civil rights organization in the country. Moya said his organization is concerned about a July posting on the Internet by a "Peter Lynch" that refers to Mexicans as wetbacks and talks about driving through a group of them. "That really is really scary to us, and I think it should be investigated," Moya said.

Lynch has said he doesn't believe he made the statement and didn't share its sentiments. He has said that those accusing him of a hate crime "are trying to make themselves out to be the victims, when in fact the American flag was the victim."

Responding to LULAC's request for an FBI investigation, Lynch said it would be redundant.

An FBI spokesman didn't return a call from the Journal seeking comment.

Lynch said the FBI has already investigated him and OK'd a top-secret security clearance for him because of his military background. "It's a waste of taxpayer dollars, but OK," Lynch said. "They don't grant top-secret security clearances to just anybody, and I hold one currently."

(Excerpt) Read more at abqjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Mexico; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; flag; immigration; johnmoya; lulac; lynch; mexico; moya; newmexico

1 posted on 10/05/2007 12:01:53 AM PDT by Peter R. Lynch
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To: Peter R. Lynch
From the University of New Mexico's Daily Lobo:

Lynch came under more fire Wednesday as El Centro de la Raza claimed he posted a racist comment on MySpace.com on July 21, about two months before he tore the flag.

Is that a racist organization? Shouldn't the FBI investigate? I feel threatened.

A group of about 30 students, faculty and staff demanded Wednesday that student Peter Lynch be charged with committing hate crimes.

Here we go again. They didn't learn anything from the Duke case, I guess.

Wonder how long it will take before the UNM President has to apologize for his/her idiot students, faculty and staff?

Doesn't this put Lynch in a hostile, threatening environment? Doesn't it put him at risk of violence incited by these people?

2 posted on 10/05/2007 12:21:38 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: All
From a 24 Sep 2007 letter to the editor, UMN Dailey Lobo. UMN link does not work. Comple letter appears at UNM will not tolerate acts of racism or xenophobia

We wish to offer apologies on behalf of UNM to the Mexican Consul to New Mexico, Juan Manuel Solano; to the Mexican Student Association; to all Mexican nationals who have been affected by this deplorable act; and to anyone else who has been adversely affected by this incident. Please know we are doing everything in our power to make sure this act will be sternly

addressed.

Rita Martinez-Purson
Interim Vice President,
Institutional Diversity

Cheo Torres
Vice President
for Student Affairs

No mention of the miscommunication which led to the incident nor to the offense to American law and sensibility.

3 posted on 10/05/2007 12:55:05 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Peter R. Lynch

Added link:

Video:

http://www.koat.com/video/14206020/index.html
“Man Who Tore Down Mexican Flag at UNM Talks to Action 7 News”


4 posted on 10/05/2007 12:58:58 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Peter R. Lynch

Why were they flying the Mexican flag on an American College campus??


5 posted on 10/05/2007 12:59:31 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: Dustbunny

Pres. Calderon recently stated that where ever there is a Mexican, there too is Mexico. Mexicans have a sense that the southwest was stolen from them (although they fail to consult the Native Americans on that point), and that it rightfully belongs to them.

They do not seem to ask why, with all the material wealth and a reputation for hard work, their country remains mired in the past and poor. Nor do they seem to appreciate that there is a reason north of the border is more prosperous and peaceful. It didn’t just happen. The difference is a result of laws, politics, ideologies, and much more.

Mexico needs to take a good look at itself.


6 posted on 10/05/2007 1:42:45 AM PDT by bajabaja
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To: Dustbunny


7 posted on 10/05/2007 2:21:15 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: bajabaja
"Pres. Calderon recently stated that where ever there is a Mexican, there too is Mexico. Mexicans have a sense that the southwest was stolen from them . . ."

Stolen? I don't think so.

Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo; February 2, 1848

TREATY OF PEACE, FRIENDSHIP, LIMITS, AND SETTLEMENT BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE UNITED MEXICAN STATES CONCLUDED AT GUADALUPE HIDALGO, FEBRUARY 2, 1848; RATIFICATION ADVISED BY SENATE, WITH AMENDMENTS, MARCH 10, 1848; RATIFIED BY PRESIDENT, MARCH 16, 1848; RATIFICATIONS EXCHANGED AT QUERETARO, MAY 30, 1848; PROCLAIMED, JULY 4, 1848.

8 posted on 10/05/2007 2:49:15 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Peter R. Lynch
How many investigations were done in Mexico when they burned the American flag? zilch.
9 posted on 10/05/2007 3:02:15 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: Peter R. Lynch

Anyone know if these three Yale students ever charged with anything like a ‘hate crime?’

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1811960/posts


10 posted on 10/05/2007 3:16:15 AM PDT by DancesWithBolsheviks (Ignoring agression does not produce peace.)
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To: Peter R. Lynch
Sorry, but his action doesn’t rise to the act of a hate crime. Indeed, it could be argued that it was to comply with the laws of correct flying of the United States Flag. It is legal and acceptable to fly the flags of two nations at the same level; it is never permissible to fly the flag of another state over that of the United States. If the Mexican student group were to be correct, they would fly the U.S. flag and Mexican flag on two separate poles.

However, there is no provision for enforcing the flag laws, and private citizens do so but face trespassing charges.

Right now both sides are letting the fire-eaters start to dominate the debate. The radical Hispanics are seeing a natural constituency being mobilized (or being deported); meantime, some of us treat every display of Mexican culture or the Spanish language as the warning signs of impending colonization. Neither is the case.

Why are we getting the illiterates, though? They’re the ones I am concerned with. Now, their kids are learning to read and write English, but Dad and Mom don’t have any affinity with the culture.

We should enforce our borders, because it improves relationships with our neighbors if we know what the rules are and if they are consistent. If a campesino wants to come to America to work, I would rather he went to a U.S. consulate, got papers, and took a bus to Brownsville or Eagle Pass rather than pay a coyote to navigate the desert. The Mexican government would have a motivation to improve conditions in Mexico to qualify more workers for the U.S., and in doing so, would find Mexico a better place.

Let’s make our points firmly but politely and act on the laws in the same way.

11 posted on 10/05/2007 3:32:04 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven.)
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To: Peter R. Lynch
Lynch came under more fire Wednesday as El Centro de LA RAZA claimed he posted a racist comment on MySpace.com

Clearly, the invaders and their Quisling allies have NO sense of irony.


12 posted on 10/05/2007 5:04:11 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Eastbound
"The True History of the Southwest, 101"

The amount of historical idiocy and fallacies surrounding the history of the Southwest is staggering, chief among them the "Aztlan" fairy tales. What's the truth? How did the Spanish Europeans conquer the Southwest? The "conquistadores" (that means "conquerors") did it with the lance, and the lash.

For example, in 1541 Coronado entered present-day New Mexico (which included present-day Arizona during the Spanish era) searching for the "lost cities of gold." One of his first actions upon meeting the natives was to burn 100s of them alive in their dwellings, for not handing over suspected horse thieves. That is how Spain conquered the natives of the present US Southwest--not with hugs and kisses. It was certainly no love-fest between long-lost brown-skinned soul-mates, as it is often portrayed today by the delusional Aztlaners, who spin the "new bronze race of Mestizos" toro-mierda.

By 1821, Mexico City was strong enough to overthrow even more decrepit and ineffectual Spanish rule. However, the distant provinces of the current U.S. Southwest were far beyond the reach of the authority of the independent but strife-torn government of Mexico City. These distant northern provinces received neither military protection nor needed levels of trade from the south. Under Spanish rule, trade with the USA was forbidden, but at least Spain provided trade and Army protection from hostile Indians. Under Mexican abandonment and neglect, the Southwest received neither trade nor protection from Mexico City.

For example, Comanches and Apaches ran rampant in the 1830s in this power vacuum created by Mexican neglect, burning scores of major ranches that had been active for hundreds of years and massacring their inhabitants. Mexico City could neither defend nor keep the allegiance of its nominal subjects in these regions. Nor did it provide needed levels of trade to sustain the prior Spanish-era standard of living. Mexican governmental influence atrophied, withered and died at the same time that American pathfinders were opening up new routes into the region.

Increasingly, a growing United States of America was making inroads into the Southwest, via ships into California, and via gigantic wagon trains of trade goods over the Santa Fe Trail from St. Louis. The standard of living of the SPANISH in these provinces subsequently increased enormously, which is why they did not support Mexico City in the 1846-48 war. In fact, the Spanish-speaking inhabitants of the Southwest NEVER considered themselves "Mexicans" at all, ever. They went, in their own eyes, from SPANISH directly to AMERICAN. To this very day, if you want a punch in the nose, just call an Hispanic native of New Mexico a "Mexican!"

So how long did Mexico City have even nominal jurisdiction (in their eyes) over the American Southwest? For only 25 years, during which they had no effective control, and the area slipped backwards by every measure until the arrival of the Americans. The SPANISH inhabitants of the Southwest NEVER transferred their loyalty to Mexico City, because all they received from the chaotic Mexican government was misrule, neglect, and unchecked Indian raids.

Since then, how long has the area been under firm American control? For 150 continuous years, during which time the former Spanish inhabitants of the region, now American citizens, have prospered beyond the wildest dreams of the Mexicans still stuck in Mexico. To compare the infrastructure, roads, schools, hospitals etc of the two regions is to understand the truth. The Mexican government has been mired in graft, corruption, nepotism and chaos from the very start until today. The ordinary Mexican peons have been trampled and abused, while only the super-rich elites have thrived. This is why millions of Mexicans want to escape from Mexico today, to enjoy the benefits of living in America that they can never hope to obtain in Mexico.

And because today Mexico is a corrupt third-world pest-hole, (despite having more millionaires and billionaires than Great Britain), we are now supposed to let any Mexican from Chiapas, Michoacan or Yucatan march into the American Southwest, and make some "historical claim" of a right to live there?

From where does this absurd idea spring?

At what point in history did Indians and Mestizos from Zacatecas or Durango stake a claim on the American Southwest? Neither they nor their ancestors ever lived for one single day in the American Southwest. The Spanish living in the Southwest in 1846 stayed there, and became Americans by the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. There were no Spanish inhabitants of the Southwest who were marched to the border and driven into Mexico. It didn't happen. The SPANISH in the Southwest welcomed American citizenship, which brought stability, protection from Indian raids, and a vast increase in their standard of living with the increase in trade.

In summary, NO current inhabitants of Mexico have ANY claim on even one single inch of the Southwest!

NOT ONE citizen of Mexico is sneaking into the USA to reclaim property their ancestors were deprived of, NOT ONE.

They are criminal invaders and colonizers, pure and simple.

It's time Americans learned the true history, as a counter to the prevalent Aztlaner fairy tales.

13 posted on 10/05/2007 5:04:52 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Peter R. Lynch

Thank God there are still Patriotic Americans willing to
attend our institutions of purported higher edication.
The FBI investigation would find—IF they are still under
the US Constitution -that NO flag ought be posted higher than the US flag at ANY US facility.Thank you for doing
the RIGHT thing given the circumstance.


14 posted on 10/05/2007 5:14:42 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Peter R. Lynch

Where are all the democrats who are oh-so outraged over Rush Limbaugh’s supposed-insult to our soldiers?

Gosh, it seems that they’re more interested in defending America-hating, lying, phony soldiers than an actual, patriotic, American soldier.

Why aren’t they rushing to your defense? Could it be that since you are under attack by members of their base and since it was an American flag you removed and tore, it’s okay?


15 posted on 10/05/2007 5:25:51 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: Diogenesis


16 posted on 10/05/2007 5:41:18 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST!)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks, Travis. This needs to be bookmarked and used often.


17 posted on 10/05/2007 6:29:27 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound

You bet!


18 posted on 10/05/2007 7:13:18 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee; Peter R. Lynch; All

Azatlan? Wait just a minute!

Remember a few years back how some blacks decided they wanted reparations for slavery? It turned out some of the ones wanting dollars for abused ancestors came from the wrong side of Africa. In other words, where no slaving vessels ventured. Their claim wasn’t based on ancestral suffering at America’s hand, but only on race.

The same is true of our neighbors south of the border who claim the US Southwest is free territory because a few Indians from Mexico once lived there. Think about our own native American tribes. The Cherokee, Sioux, Navajo, all of them, had little in common. Not culture, looks, speech, spiritual or community beliefs.

Now, some of these folks come in and claim the same right who are from the south part of Mexico and El Salvador, Columbia and points south. No one, ever remotely related to these folks EVER lived in our USA South West. Those that did, congregated with the Spanish Missions and stayed in the United States as citizens and I can assure you their children never returned to Mexico!

On the other hand, how about our ancestors who once lived in Mexico. How many of us are part Cherokee? Millions. Did you know that Sequoyah, the man who created the Cherokee Alphabet, is believed to be buried in Mexico? Well, Cousins? Perhaps we should go south and take “OUR” country back.

Does it get any more insane than this???
http://www.cherokeenationmexico.com/

Must see video! A Marine takes a stand.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nONjlZ8YMkA


19 posted on 10/05/2007 9:22:36 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Peter R. Lynch

LULAC is LOCO!


20 posted on 10/05/2007 10:10:32 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Eastbound

Just so we are clear, Eastbound, I didn’t say the Southwest was “stolen,” I was saying the Mexicans think so — as justification for their squatting. They think Gen./President Santa Ana, who was involved in those matters (and who pocketed some of the money transacted in the treaty personally, allegedly) concluded an abrogatable treaty.


21 posted on 10/05/2007 1:09:28 PM PDT by bajabaja
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To: bajabaja

Yes, I’m clear on that, bajabaja. My remarks were meant for the Mexicans who are using that as an excuse.


22 posted on 10/05/2007 2:59:51 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound

Peter Lynch For Congress 2008 (District 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aIvZseXMF4
Message not approved by Peter Lynch.


23 posted on 10/08/2007 9:21:02 AM PDT by Post American (Don't Tread On Me)
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