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Teachers 'fear evolution lessons'
BBC ^ | Thursday, 4 October 2007

Posted on 10/05/2007 6:26:08 AM PDT by SubGeniusX

The teaching of evolution is becoming increasingly difficult in UK schools because of the rise of creationism, a leading scientist is warning. Head of science at London's Institute of Education Professor Michael Reiss says some teachers, fearful of entering the debate, avoid the subject totally.

This could leave pupils with gaps in their scientific knowledge, he says.

Prof Reiss says the rise of creationism is partly down to the large increase in Muslim pupils in UK schools.

He said: "The number of Muslim students has grown considerably in the last 10 to 20 years and a higher proportion of Muslim families do not accept evolutionary theory compared with Christian families.

"That's one reason why it's more of an issue in schools."

Prof Reiss estimates that one in 10 people in the UK now believes in literal interpretations of religious creation stories - whether they are based on the Bible or the Koran.

Many more teachers he met at scientific meetings were telling him they encountered more pupils with creationist views, he said.

"The days have long gone when science teachers could ignore creationism when teaching about origins."

Instead, teachers should tackle the issue head-on, whilst trying not to alienate students, he argues in a new book.

'Not equally valid'

"By not dismissing their beliefs, we can ensure that these students learn what evolutionary theory really says - and give everyone the understanding to respect the views of others," he added.

His book; Teaching about Scientific Origins: Taking Account of Creationism, gives science teachers advice on how to deal with the "dilemma".

He supports new government guidelines which say creationism should not be discussed in science classes unless it is raised by pupils.

But Prof Reiss argues that there is an educational value in comparing creationist ideas with scientific theories like Darwin's theory of evolution because they demonstrate how science, unlike religious beliefs, can be tested.

The scientist, who is also a Church of England priest, adds that any teaching should not give the impression that creationism and the theory of evolution are equally valid scientifically.

Dr Hilary Leevers, of the Campaign for Science and Engineering, said science teachers would be teaching evolution not creationism and so should not need a book to tell them how to "delicately handle controversy between a scientific theory and a belief".

"The author suggests that science teachers cannot ignore creationism when teaching origins, but the opposite is true," she said.

Teachers could discuss how creationism differed from scientific theory if a student brought up the subject, but any further discussion should occur in religious education lessons, she said.

A Department for Children, Schools and Families spokesman said it had recently published guidelines to teachers on the issue.

"Creationism and intelligent design are not scientific theories nor testable as scientific fact - and have no place in the science curriculum. "But we advise science teachers that when questions about creationism come up in lessons, it provides an opportunity to explain or explore what makes a scientific theory."


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1 posted on 10/05/2007 6:26:08 AM PDT by SubGeniusX
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To: SubGeniusX

I find it fascinating when political correctness runs into these dilemmas.


2 posted on 10/05/2007 6:27:28 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("There is no such thing as death for a Christian who believes in the Resurrection." ~ Fr. Ho Lung)
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The teaching of evolution is becoming increasingly difficult in UK schools because of the rise of creationism, a leading scientist is warning. Head of science at London's Institute of Education Professor Michael Reiss says some teachers, fearful of entering the debate, avoid the subject totally.

This could leave pupils with gaps in their scientific knowledge, he says.

Prof Reiss says the rise of creationism is partly down to the large increase in Muslim pupils in UK schools.


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3 posted on 10/05/2007 6:28:38 AM PDT by SubGeniusX ($29.95 Guarantees Your Salvation!!! Or TRIPLE Your Money Back!!!)
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"But Prof Reiss argues that there is an educational value in comparing creationist ideas with scientific theories like Darwin's theory of evolution because they demonstrate how science, unlike religious beliefs, can be tested."

Pretty tough to "test" Evolution since Darwinists refuse to publish any peer-reviewed criteria for falsification.

Theories that have no falsification criteria should be left out of the class.

4 posted on 10/05/2007 6:30:09 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Tax-chick

Fisrt it was the teachers afraid to teach about the Holocaust....

Now they are afraid to teach SCIENCE!


5 posted on 10/05/2007 6:30:23 AM PDT by SubGeniusX ($29.95 Guarantees Your Salvation!!! Or TRIPLE Your Money Back!!!)
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To: SubGeniusX
This could leave pupils with gaps in their scientific knowledge,

Missing evolution lessons will not prevent these kids from growing up to design spacecraft, build nuclear power plants or develop the cure to cancer.

They'll be no better or worse as scientists.

6 posted on 10/05/2007 6:30:33 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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"Prof Reiss says the rise of creationism is partly down to the large increase in Muslim pupils in UK schools."
7 posted on 10/05/2007 6:30:48 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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Theories that have no falsification criteria should be left out of the class.
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So you completely agree, then, that creationism and ID should never be taught in any science class.


9 posted on 10/05/2007 6:33:53 AM PDT by dmz
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To: SubGeniusX

It is delicious to watch the PC/pro-evolution fantasy establishment twist in the wind on this one...


10 posted on 10/05/2007 6:34:17 AM PDT by Elpasser
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"So you completely agree, then, that creationism and ID should never be taught in any science class."

Intelligent Design is easily falsified. Where there is no bias in a system, there is no ID.

The same can't be said for Evolutionary Theory, however. No Darwinist will submit falsification criteria for ToE to any peer-reviewed scientific group.

12 posted on 10/05/2007 6:36:16 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: SubGeniusX
Science has been pretty much defined in such a way so that only physical aspects of the natural world qualify as science. No supernatural stuff. No transcendant stuff.

In addition, so far as I know, religion classes have pretty much disappeared from public schools, so that sort of forum, for supernatural or transcendant stuff, has been eliminated.

In this way, the material beliefs of the Evolutionists win by default.

I'd like government schools eliminated so that parents have a diversity of choices and can send their children to schools which have curriculums with which they agree. My second choice would be to bring back religion classes in schools so that the importance of transcendant values can be communicated to children. My third choice would be to change science classes so that the controversy (and yes: there is a controversy) can be openly discussed.

13 posted on 10/05/2007 6:37:00 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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Prof Reiss says the rise of creationism is partly down to the large increase in Muslim pupils in UK schools.

I love it when two politcally protected groups clash. Will Muslims be forced to learn about evolution or will liberals teach creationism again?

14 posted on 10/05/2007 6:37:23 AM PDT by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: SubGeniusX

Teenagers are proof that evolution is impossible.


15 posted on 10/05/2007 6:37:56 AM PDT by tractorman
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Sad to say, but some Christians could stand to learn a lot from the Muzzies on this one.

No thanks. 7th century myth belongs in philosophy class, whether its creationism or the study of moon gods.

16 posted on 10/05/2007 6:38:53 AM PDT by GunRunner (Thompson 2008 - Security, Unity, Prosperity)
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To: SubGeniusX

“Muslim families do not accept evolutionary theory compared with Christian families.”

I don’t accept this statement. Maybe C.of.E Christians but that church was started by Henry the Eight and not by God.


17 posted on 10/05/2007 6:39:17 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: SubGeniusX

There are plenty here at FR who agree with banning evolution from the classroom and teaching creationism. Muslims don’t have a lock on the issue by any means. In fact, Huckabee is all for teaching creationism in the classroom.


18 posted on 10/05/2007 6:40:51 AM PDT by saganite
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To: SubGeniusX

You can take the man out of the Middle Ages, but you can’t take the Middle Ages out of the man.

You can take the man out of the Middle East, but you can’t take the Middle East out of the man.


19 posted on 10/05/2007 6:42:04 AM PDT by beavus (People are rational in the mundane. Irrationality is left for what matters most.)
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To: saganite

Intelligent Design is the only theory that scientifically explains all modern transgenic animals.


20 posted on 10/05/2007 6:43:09 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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