Posted on 10/05/2007 1:44:55 PM PDT by NYer
The Vatican is to publish a book which is expected to shed light on the demise of the Knights Templar, a Christian military order from the Middle Ages.
The book is based on a document known as the Chinon parchment, found in the Vatican Secret Archives six years ago after years of being incorrectly filed.
The document is a record of the heresy hearings of the Templars before Pope Clement V in the 14th Century.
The official who found the paper says it exonerates the knights entirely.
Prof Barbara Frale, who stumbled across the parchment by mistake, says that it lays bare the rituals and ceremonies over which the Templars were accused of heresy.
In the hearings before Clement V, the knights reportedly admitted spitting on the cross, denying Jesus and kissing the lower back of the man proposing them during initiation ceremonies.
However, many of the confessions were obtained under torture and knights later recanted or tried to claim that their initiation ceremony merely mimicked the humiliation the knights would suffer if they fell into the hands of the Muslim leader Saladin.
The leader of the order, Jacques de Moley, was one of those who confessed to heresy, but later recanted.
He was burned at the stake in Paris in 1314, the same year that the Pope dissolved the order.
However, according to Prof Frale, study of the document shows that the knights were not heretics as had been believed for 700 years.
In fact she says "the Pope was obliged to ask for pardons from the knights... the document we have found absolves them".
Details of the parchment will be published as part of Processus contra Templarios, a book that will be released by the Vatican's Secret Archive on 25 October.
Unless you’re a Kennedy looking for an annulment.
Pretty tame, I would imagine. All I'm going to do is remove the rust from my sword and polish it up a little. Maybe give it a finer edge.
I would suspect that the church left this in limbo for 700 years...because of fear of the Templars. I don’t think this is a crowd that you can sit at ease with if you have done so much to hurt them. The Templars...really never went away and are active throughout the globe today...quietly. I suspect that the pope...from Germany...has seen some of their work in a positive light...and decided enough was enough. It is a sign of admitting that the church was wrong in some things it did.
The Gnurrs come from the voodvork out!
But you need one of Papa Schimmelhorn’s Gnurrpipes to summon them....
(Silly sf by Reginald Bretnor)
Shame academia won’t exonerate them anyhow
Can’t exonerate any white Christians from that era who killed brownish Muslims....(and others ...yes yes I know before the chorus chimes in)
actually ....just my opinion but the Constitution makes no mention of Jefferson’s famous “wall” but rather bans the Establishment of a State Religion.
A concept Europe has always known all too well and what happened to the Templars more addresses that than the Wall of Separation which is a platitude....or is it canard?
I prefer the way we were for 160 years before Everson when the Wall concept was unheard of.
We still imprison bad clergy and corrupt ministers in our own way, it’s just harder to convict by jury than by King’s edict.
Btw....the King of France could not have persecuted the Templars without the Vatican’s approval...no way....revisionist thought to the contrary is wishful thinking.
Oh come on! It's not like this is the ONLY falsehood they've allowed to exist for centuries....
Flame away :-)
Have patience for me, brother. I plan to enter the Order after my time in the East.
alas...
Vatican paper set to clear Knights Templar
The Telegraph | 05/10/2007 | Malcolm Moore
Posted on 10/05/2007 4:44:50 AM EDT by Daffynition
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That's what they always do. It is only recently that they acknowledged that Galelelio was correct, the earth does indeed orbit around the sun and not the other way around. Self important men (?) in dresses.
interesting that if you know your bible, you didn’t have to wait for Galelelio to know a bit about the nature of the planets, and what the earth rests on - keep in mind that other religions have the earth resting on the back of great turtles, or other such nonsense.
It clearly states in the bible that the earth is round (not flat), and hangs in space on nothing. This is from the old testament, written > 1500 years before Christ.
It does NOT say however, if the earth or sun revolve around each other.
This is why (when speaking from the bible), it is best to NOT extend beliefs beyond what the text actually SAYS.
There’s a lot of information in the bible that could not have been produced by human means - this is one example, there are others.
I keep striking up the theme song to the TV series, “The Saint” and expect Simon Templar to make his appearance.
most probably a pretty accurate statement.
Here! LOL. I have about six demolays crashed at my house, as I write this. They are home from college.
One of them is the state master counselor.
heheheh.
No doubt, there will be many Masons posting on this claiming their hero has been vindicated. Trouble is, you’ll never know they are Masons. Most of them won’t identify themselves as such.why would someone claim vindication yet deny membership???
make no sense to me...
PastMaster Chode
Best -- Sir Dave
The first Grand Lodge was formed in London, in 1717.
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