Skip to comments.The "Not So Poor" 12 Year Old Who Rebutted Bush on SCHIP Veto
Posted on 10/06/2007 10:42:57 PM PDT by icwhatudo
Graeme Frost, who gave the democrat rebuttal to George Bushs reasons for vetoing the SCHIP Bill, is a middle school student at the exclusive$20,000 per year Park School in Baltimore, MD.
Graeme was in a severe car accident three years ago, and received care paid for by the government program known as SCHIP-(State Children's Health Insurance Program)
"I was in a coma for a week and couldn't eat or stand up or even talk. My sister was even worse," Graeme wrote. "My parents work really hard and always make sure my sister and I have everything we need, but we can't afford private health insurance."
His sister Gemma, also severely injured in the accident, attended the same school prior to the accident meaning the family was able to come up with nearly $40,000 per year for tuition for these 2 grade schoolers. Confirmation both attended Park found here using edit-"find on this page"-Gemma. It will take you to an article in the schools newspaper about a fundraiser for Gemma class of 16, and Graeme class of 13.
Here are photos of the school's 44,000 square foot Wyman Arts Center: two galleries, an outdoor ampitheater, Meyerhoff Theater, Macks-Fidler Black Box Theater, practice rooms, rehearsal space, and ceramics, 3-D sculpture, woodworking, jewelry, painting, photography, digital graphics studios, recording studio, and keyboard lab.
In a Baltimore Sun article the family claims to be raising their four children on combined income of about $45,000 a year. "Bonnie Frost works for a medical publishing firm; her husband, Halsey, is a woodworker. They are raising their four children on combined income of about $45,000 a year. Neither gets health insurance through work."
What the article does not mention is that Halsey Frost has owned his own company "Frostworks",since this marriage announcement in the NY Times in 1992 so he chooses to not give himself insurance. He also employed his wife as "bookkeeper and operations management" prior to her recent 2007 hire at the "medical publishing firm". As her employer, he apparently denied her health insurance as well.
His company, Frostworks, is located at 3701 E BALTIMORE ST. A building that was purchased for $160,000 in 1999. The buildings owner is listed as DIVERSIFIED INDUSTRIAL DESIGN CENTER, LLC whose mailing address is listed as 104 S Collington Ave which is the Frost's home. The commercial property he owns is also listed as the business address for another company called Reillys Designs which leads to the question of whether rental income is included in the above mentioned salary total
The current market value of their improved 3,040 SF home at 104 S Collington Ave is unknown but 113 S COLLINGTON AVE, also an end unit, sold for $485,000 this past March and it was only 2,060 SF. A photo taken in the family's kitchen shows what appears to be a recent remodeling job with granite counter tops and glass front cabinets
One has to wonder that if time and money can be found to remodel a home, send kids to exclusive private schools, purchase commercial property and run your own business... maybe money can be found for other things...maybe Dad should drop his woodworking hobby and get a real job that offers health insurance rather than making people like me (also with 4 kids in a 600sf smaller house and tuition $16,000 less per kid and no commercial property ownership) pay for it in my taxes.
A self employed couple like the Frosts who are only claiming income of $45,000 per year seems like a good target for an IRS or state income tax audit.
The entire idea of extending welfare benefits to the self employed is a fool idea. Not only does the taxpayer benefit by lower taxes if they misstate their income and expenses, they also get the additional welfare benefit to boot.
Just makes the whole paradigm of voluntary compliance, the main pillar of the tax code, just a lot more problematic.
How about who caused the accident? The parents? No insurance?
Seeing the Father looks like John Denver, he should get a guitar and start doing a Las Vegas act.
Typical dem attitude—all for me but none for my trophy children. Let someone else pay for them. I, after all, am just here to breed more little dem voters.
Families USA needs to be audited by the IRS also!! It’s a TOTAL Democrat Arm of the Machine!
Why would they care? There's no way that the MSM will even allow cricket chirping on this story. This is exactly the sort of thing that the media WANTS to project. When they can't do stories about how stupid Bush is, their second favorite thing (and one they haven't been able to do very often, as can be seen by the huge spending growth) is to do stories about how mean and heartless Bush and conservatives are.
We'll never hear a peep about this, except in conservative and libertarian forums like this one. And the general population of the US, at least those who hear about the poor kids who didn't have insurance, will never know the truth. And those who couldn't be bothered to find out the false story will hear third party accounts of how mean Bush is.
IRS, oh, IRS, pinging IRS?
Big HUGE Ping
Ya got to get this article over to Brit Hume for his Grapevine.
Zillows value of their house:
Democrats are so arrogant they know that if they are caught, they will suffer no consequences so it doesn’t matter.
You’ve got the wimpy PC version of this fable. LOL. When I was a kid, the story said that the grasshopper went to the ant’s house begging for food, and the ant told him to bugger off. The ant also chewed him out for screwing off instead of working.
Bonnie and Halsey Frost know the price of health insurance. Their 12-year-old son, Graeme, and his 9-year-old sister, Gemma, were severely injured in a car accident three years ago.
“I was driving and my car hit black ice and I lost control of it and I slammed into a tree. Gemma hit the tree and Graeme hit a window,” Bonnie said.
More than 100,000 Maryland children are covered under the federal program, according to state health officials. They estimate that the program will require an infusion of roughly $160 million in federal funds over the next five years - with the state also contributing dollars of its own - to continue providing coverage to those families. Additional funds would also provide health coverage to an additional 42,000 children in Maryland.
Maryland provides health coverage under SCHIP to families of four with annual household income of up to 300 percent of the federal poverty level, or roughly $60,000 a year, Folkemer said. The reauthorization bill would not allow the state to provide coverage to families with a greater income, but the state could recruit more families with incomes below that level, he said.
The Frost family has a combined annual income of about $45,000, said Bonnie Frost. She and her husband have priced private health insurance, but they say it would cost them more per month than their mortgage - about $1,200 a month. Neither parent has health insurance through work.
“There should never be a moment when you have to ask, ‘Do you have health insurance?’” said Halsey Frost, who along with his wife is an advocate for a national health care plan that would cover everyone, no matter the age or income bracket.
“I am incredibly thankful,” said Frost, who works full time for a medical publishing firm. Her husband, Halsey, is a full-time woodworker. “Without the [SCHIP] program, we would be in another place emotionally and financially. I can’t imagine how we would have managed.”
Said Halsey Frost: “The medical tabs from the accident would have fallen on us. We would have lost our house.”
“We might go back to Washington to advocate against Bush’s veto,” said Bonnie Frost.
Graeme, a seventh-grader at the Park School, has a message for the president.
“If I could speak to him, I would say, ‘You have to sign this bill,’” he told reporters yesterday during his first visit to the Capitol. “I’m guessing he wants this money for Iraq. Our future isn’t in Iraq. It’s here.”
It appears that this company is a CABINET MAKING COMPANY.......so rather than lease out his building to Diversified, Mr. Frost actually owns Diversified too.
Just what I was thinking.
LOL — this is incredible.
icwhatudo: Good research, thanks.
nutmeg: For your ping list?
The husband reminds me of Mr. Van Driessen from Beavis and Butthead.
Oh my, the Dems have really blown it this time. So much for the working-class stiff angle.
This is just too good!
Poor? Poor? Have they, the Rats and the media have no shame in begging of he rest of us?
Sure hope he isn't paying for that private school through the corporation. The IRS might not approve.
We know damn well no elected Republican or the AWOL RNC will make a peep about this Phony Impoverished Family!
This guy is young and has chosen not to carry insurance. Something Republicans have said is logical. So what are the Democrats bitching about, their spokesman is practicing what we are preaching. If they had their way he would be forced to cut some cost somewhere to purchase insurance. Of course the fact that he is allowed to get medical care and foist the expense on to his neighbor is abhorrent but no more so than every Mexican that sneaks across the border getting free medical care.
We know damn well no elected Republican or the AWOL RNC will make a peep about this Phony Impoverished Family!
This is all great. Unfortunately it will never see the light of day as far as the MSM goes.
Comments needed on this article:
Another lie by a democrat? Who da thunk it?
Especially if She Who Must Not Be Named's $5000 per kid bond measure goes through.
If I could speak to him, I would say, You have to sign this bill, he told reporters yesterday during his first visit to the Capitol. Im guessing he wants this money for Iraq. Our future isnt in Iraq. Its here.
Man, I know I sure talked like this when I was in seventh grade! (not)
This is the real value of "the children" for the DemoCRAT party...irrelevant in the womb, political pawns once outside of the womb.
I was driving and my car hit black ice and I lost control of it and I slammed into a tree. Gemma hit the tree and Graeme hit a window, Bonnie said.
Did Bonnie have auto insurance?
How is this any different from the different from the Left's use of "Fake Soldiers" in their war against American? It isn't.
The fact that Americans are too dumb to see the hypocrisy does not bode well for the future of th USA. It does speak volumes at the "integrity" of the Democrat Party.
Goodbye USA... It was so good knowing you.
One of the few cases where I believe that the IRS has a “duty” to take a peek into this family’s finances.... Something smells - on so many levels.
Note that this "poor" child without health insurance was not denied very high quality and specialized health care because he didn't have health insurance. If his parents were truly indigent the entire bill would have been written off by the hospital. In places like Canada and the UK with "free" health care I seriously doubt this kid would be alive as the level of care he received is not readily available.
If these children were injured in a traffic accident where another vehicle were involved could at least part of their medical bill also have been picked up under the bodily injury provisions that are a mandatory part of auto insurance in most states?
IIRC, the minimum first party insurance benefits for injuries sustained in an automobile accident is $22,500 per person, and many people have more than the minimum.
A truth well stated, Mark!
What was really EVIL about the SCHIP program was that the entitlement was GUARANTEE FUNDED!!!
IF cigarette tax revenue was not enough, the law required the federal government to cut OTHER programs to make up the shortfalls.
GWBush should have had a MAJOR veto program, he should have made a BIG deal about being responsible.
Aura of migraine?
I smell unreported income.
I have been a bookkeeper for small business owners for over 30 years. I know there is a certain amount of skimming, most of which I never saw, there fore I could not advise on not doing it.
In order to pay that kind of school tuition, pay mortgages, buy groceries, pay utilities, there is no way it can be done on a gross income of $45,000 a year. Even if the income is misstated, and it is a net income of $45,000, once you pay out $40,000 for tuition, how in the dickens does a family live on $5000 a year????
This is a ripe situation for the Republicans to disect the banks accounts and life style of this couple and their kids and expose them loudly for the liars they are.
The Demorats just get dumber and dumber. The Republican candidates need to use that ammunition and soon.
Ah, it was a car accident. Medical Payments Coverage is an option, when you buy car insurance. Did they save money by going without coverage?”
In the last 3 states that I have lived in, Medical Insurance is NOT an option. Where is it an option????
The dems have proven that once you get the symbolism out there, and there's very little coverage out there--except in locations where Republicans can read it and know about it...you still have your base and those that don't pay attention to anything but their daily lives that believe your symbolism, and you win.
SAD ...so very sad...but very, very true.
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I thought at the time that this story just sounded to set-up and here we are with the true facts thanks to you and other Freepers. This needs to get to the talk radio people for Monday...thanks much
Does anybody know if/where the RAT response is posted online?
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