Skip to comments.First Barry Manilow, Now Whoopi Goldberg Hassle The View's Hasselbeck over Conservative/Pro-Lif...
Posted on 10/07/2007 6:24:05 PM PDT by monomaniac
By Peter J. Smith
NEW YORK, October 4, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Once again the pro-life views of Elisabeth Hasselbeck, the only conservative woman on ABC's "The View," have landed her in trouble after a heated exchange with Whoopi Goldberg, Rosie O'Donnell's replacement, on Wednesday's program edition.
Hasselbeck noted her opinion that presidential Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's proposal to give $5,000 for a new birth could help reduce abortions in the United States.
"I feel like this could maybe cause less abortions in the world. You know, people would keep having kids instead."
Goldberg then took the opportunity to attack Hasselbeck's pro-life views by asking her if she had ever been in a position to abort a child. Hasselbeck responded "never."
Goldberg then said, "Okay, then back off a little bit. Back off a little bit. Very few people want to have abortions." Goldberg's "very few people", however, have aborted nearly 50 million children since Roe v. Wade legalized it in 1973. According to one Goldberg biographer, Goldberg has had at least 6 abortions and used to joke perversely that she had a do-it-yourself coathanger abortion at 14 years-old.
Goldberg then lectured Hasselbeck that Americans ought to "revere" women, who have had abortions.
"It is the hardest decision that a woman ever- wait- ever has to make. So, when you talk about it, a little bit of reverence to the women out there who have had to make this horrible decision," Goldberg continued. Goldberg then repeated the standard pro-abortion harangue that Roe was meant to make abortion "safe" and "clean," because women were dying from coathanger abortions.
Hasselbeck, unfortunately being the only pro-life and conservative out of the four women on The View, has been repeatedly castigated for her opinion, most notably by fired "View" co-host Rosie O'Donnell. Earlier in September, Barry Manilow had refused to appear on ABC's "The View," because the show's producers refused to remove Hasselbeck from the segment.
Manilow called Hasselbeck "dangerous" and "offensive" for her "views" and said that while he was "a big supporter of the show," he was canceling his appearance because he felt "I cannot compromise my beliefs."
So, what do you think about all that, Monomaniac?
I'm sorry, I'm a pretty open-minded person, and I have sympathy for women who are conditioned to believe abortion is a good thing in any way, but this statement has me wondering about Goldberg's mental health. I mean, more than I was before.
Let's pretend having an abortion is the same as any other kind of surgery--removing a tooth or open-heart surgery--why would one have "reverence" for someone who has surgery?
Of course, it's not the same--so why have "reverence" for someone who snuffs out a completely defenseless life--even if one claims it's only "potential" life, how is destroying that an action that demands reverence?
Quickly, Monomaniac! Pretend that you at least read the article....
How does someone so inept in the use of the English language land a spot on a talk show?
Barry “manliness-is-low” Manilow. His manliness is lower than Whoopi’s.
Shows how liberals really can't debate these issues.
And Sean Hannity actually liked this person. She's killed 6 babies. That's nothing to be proud of.
Manilow, Goldberg, Waxman...I’m beginning to think there is a direct relationship between nostril-size and liberalness.
Barry Manilow is BABA Streischund in drag.
Elizabeth is a decent person. It’s worth noting that when Hillary appeared on the show that Elizabeth was the first person to greet her.
Ah yes....the “tolerant”, “progressive” Liberals...
Liberals again proving that Liberalism is a mental disorder...
It would appear that most of the Left is made up from the leaches, perverts, incompetent, drug addicts and immoral garbage of society......and they’re UGLY TOO!
Personally, I’m conflicted about Whoopie having 6 abortions.... in some cases that could be a good thing..
And each one was the “hardest decision she’s ever had to make.”
See how nasty Whoopie is. Shaking my head. I guess she couldn't figure out birth control or maybe it just doesn't matter to her. At least 6 abortions & she is ok with this? Rosie disgusts me & so does Whoopie.
Manilow is a twerp. He had good music but has sold out to the devil.
Barry you’ve lost it, find the Lord because without him, your destination is very terminal.
At the risk of being perceived as a cynic or worse, I’ll wade out there and comment that it is difficult to believe that that ugly skank has even had carnal knowledge with another human being a single time.
Like the guy in the circus with the job of giving enemas to elephants .He was advised to do something else and replied “What and give up show Business “.
I can’t believe Barry Manilow’s opinion on anything counts for anything, frankly.
So, as long as I think about the person who I am about to kill for a couple hours before I actually do it, then I'm going to walk?
Proof positive that you can drink someone attractive.
“Manilow called Hasselbeck “dangerous” and “offensive” for her “views””
I don’t know if it’s true,but I heard Barry Manilow was aborted at birth !!!
“Americans ought to ‘revere’ women, who have had abortions”
We will, about the time we start to revere OJ.
To revere something that God condemns (murder) would only set one up for some pretty hefty judgment!
There is a SciFi commercial of a man standing in front of a mirror, and noticing a hair out of place on his head, he pulls it as if to pull it out.
The hair actually comes out as a thread, and he keeps pulling, two handed, and the 'cam' pulls back and we see the man unravelling from the feet up.
Too bad the last innocent child Goldburg murdered couldn't have held on and pulled the bitch inside out into nothingness.
ABC didn’t hire Elizabeth H. to keep her mouth shut. And as a Christian, she must speak her principled opinion, for to avoid doing that would signify concurrence.
This is about “Jamming” any outlet for conservative views.
Object over ANY and ALL conservatives so they never get a chance to speak.
What did you all expect from Whoopi???
If she went any further left, she would fall off the planet.
Reminds me of an item from Chevy Chase’s “Weekend Update” segment from the “Saturday Night Live” cast album, where he reports on Governor George Wallace saying that he didn’t judge a man by the color of his skin, he judged him by the size of his nostrils.
Well, she does have a daughter. And grandchildren.
I’ll reserve judgement on six abortions since ‘it’s been said that she’s had...’ and I don’t know who’s doing the saying or on what basis. That sounds kind of like the National Enquirer’s ‘unnamed sources’. I can’t take that kind of report seriously.
In Hell, it's going to be worse for her...let's say she gets to experience what it's like to be aborted, torn apart, time and time again for all eternity.
I can only liken it to feeling your whole being going up in pain, while the Devil laughs.
I pray she, and other "pro-choice" 'Christians' repent sometime...I wouldn't want an eternal future like that for anybody.
It’s only a hard decision if you know it is a child. If it is not a child, what’s the big deal?
Must have worked with Ted Danson. Granted, it made him do some really stupid stuff in addition.
Elizabeth gets a pay check. No amount is enough for the personally attacking she’s suffering.
I can hear it now, Saint Elizabeth. Her reward is not in this life and she knows it.
I personally know someone who has had four earlier in her life, and she is an emotional basket case today.
Whoopie is either very cold or very much BS-ing.
What does matter is her attitude, and what influence she wields.
P.S. I really liked your Tag Line. I’ve seen Fried Green Tomatoes a few times.
I'd be far more inclined to "revere" men and women who,if they felt weren't ready for parenthood,kept their pants on,Whoopie.And for the record I don't believe for a millisecond that any man has ever been desperate enough to impregnate you even once so don't go demanding that anyone start revering **you**!
Oh, and what about it, Barely Man-enough? She's not allowed to express her "views"? or are you just scared that a Christian woman will eat you up in a logical debate?
Here's the thing I don't get. 1. Hasselbeck's statement amounted to only this concept: it would be good if there were fewer abortions. 2. For some reason, this didn't sit well with Goldberg. 3. As part of her argument, she waxed eloquently about how difficult a choice abortion is, and asserted that "very few women" want to have them.
So what was Goldberg's problem with Hasselbeck's statement in the first place?
It's one thing to think that abortion ought to be legal on some sort of pragmatic/public health grounds, i.e. the coathanger argument. The problem I really have is when people take that idea to such an extreme that (whether they really are or not) they come out sounding like fans of abortion - you speak of reducing abortion, they tell you to "back off". Where on earth does that come from anyway?
Earlier in September, Barry Manilow had refused to appear on ABC's "The View," because the show's producers refused to remove Hasselbeck from the segment.
A nicely succinct illustration of how illiberal modern so-called "liberalism" is. They wouldn't remove one woman out of four with whose views he disagrees, therefore he wouldn't show up. He sees this stance as flowing directly from his political views, which (undoubtedly) he considers to go by the name "liberal". When the reality is that his stance is the exact opposite of liberal.
Being called "dangerous" by a lightweight like him is like being called immoral by Larry Flint.
P.S. I really liked your Tag Line. Ive seen Fried Green Tomatoes a few times.
Best line in the whole movie! (Although there are many great lines). After my mom had some GYN surgery, she had a mini-meltdown over some behavior of my then teen-sister. I said “How many of them hormones you takin’?” and she had to laugh. Now it’s a family joke.
The idiot Whoopi’s words about “reverence” perfectly underscore what I’ve always said is the WORST thing about the knee-jerk “Pro-choice” (read: Abortion Cheerleaders)
movement since it virtually began: it wants to promote abortion as A POSITIVE VALUE IN ITSELF. In Whoopi Goldberg’s equation, it’s an end-in-itself, it’s own reason for being, a perfectly shaped self-justifying continuum. I too have known a lot of girls, going back to the late 60s and , yes, it is true OF THEM, that the decision is something that they almost always regret for the rest of their lives, and never get over. This is actually the diametric opposite of demanding “reverence” for the sake of the women who’ve had one, or , two, or three or more, as Goldberg claims for herself, turning it pathetically into comic material for her stand-up routine. The girls I’ve known would never demand reverence for what they did, because they never revered themselves for it. And the nonsense about “clean” and “safe” abortions, with NO WIRE HANGERS EVER, is the sheerest nonsense. It has NOTHING to do with the political realities behind the motivations to make Roe V. Wade Federal law. /Read the words of Ron Weddington, one of the original lawyers , if you want to know the real “concerns” underlying the efforts to get Roe V. Wade into the law. Has anyone ever determind just HOW MANY “botched abortions” actually happened EVER, AT ALL, enough to justify a law which in no time became a major wedge issue, now in its fourth decade, and has helped importantly both to elect, not elect, and dis-elect American politicians and Supreme Court Justices?
And has ANYONE appreciated the irony, that just as the exact same time that effective birth control became widely accessible to all women, so did abortion-on-demand, and so did the ever mounting piles of aborted babies? ONe would think birth control would have de-necessitated abortion-—instead they seem to have counter-intuitively worked together to make one another absolutely essential.
Like the woman I know who had an abortion because she didn't want her husband to find out that she'd most likely gotten pregnant while having an affair.
Yeah, I've got LOTS of respect for her...
I do have a small problem with Elizabeths line of thinking though. She is more or less condoning the fostering of the “welfare” mother syndrome - women having babies just to collect government subsidies.
We have a situation here in Central Florida where a single mother of seven (and one on the way) retrieved her 8 year son from the foster home he was placed in so that she could prove to the Child Welfare folks that yes, she does have THAT many kids to support (apparently she was going to return the child at a later time).
Well, she left him alone with his older brother - a 13 year old who was accustomed to helping mother to mete out discipline to the 8 year old in the past.
Well, while the mother was out, the 13 year old beat the 8 year old to death. Yes - poor child died.
Now the mother and the 13 year old are in jail. one for child neglect the other for murder.
Now - you tell me what will happen when the Gubmint starts handing out checks to mothers for having babies.
Too bad Whoopie’s mommy didn’t have a “choice.”