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Washington Post: Several N. Korean scientists hurt in IAF strike in Syria
Haaretz ^ | October 8, 2007 | Shmuel Rosner

Posted on 10/07/2007 8:38:19 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

Edited on 12/04/2007 1:49:38 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

A top-secret report by the U.S. intelligence services says several North Korean scientists were injured in Israel's strike in Syria last month, top Washington Post columnist Jim Hoagland reported in the paper Sunday.

Some two weeks ago, British newspaper The Sunday Times reported that diplomats in North Korea and China believed a number of North Koreans had been killed in the strike, based on reports reaching Asian governments about conversations between Chinese and North Korean officials.


(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airstrikes; iaf; israel; nknukes; nkorea; northkorea; plutonium; plutoniumenrichment; sept62007; syria

1 posted on 10/07/2007 8:38:23 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative; AmericanInTokyo; Jet Jaguar; Tamar1973; monkapotamus; All

HEY TIGER did you hear anything?????


2 posted on 10/07/2007 8:41:11 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: SevenofNine
several North Korean scientists were injured in Israel's strike in Syria last month . . .

If this report is true, the only regretable thing about it is that they weren't killed.

3 posted on 10/07/2007 8:45:30 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: West Coast Conservative
several North Korean scientists were injured in Israel's strike in Syria last month

The NK scientists collateral damage is icing on the cake. Maybe those prostitutes of plutonium will think twice about helping Iran or any other mideast tyrannical regime.

4 posted on 10/07/2007 8:47:21 PM PDT by Maynerd (Hilary = amnesty and socialized medicine)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Very good to read.....there need to be more such strikes.


5 posted on 10/07/2007 9:28:32 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: West Coast Conservative; gonzo
>>>....Bush's administration had been involved in the preparations for the strike since the summer. According to ABC, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had objected to the plan, pushing the intended date from mid-July to September. <<<

I find that a bit hard to believe since the trigger for the attack appears to be taking out nuclear material which arrived by North Korean ship only days before Israel hit the bunker it was off-loaded to at Dayr az-Zwar.

Something was on that ship that made action imperative and urgent.

6 posted on 10/07/2007 9:31:00 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out of Qurans)
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To: West Coast Conservative

bookmark


7 posted on 10/07/2007 9:39:15 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 ... Go ahead, look it up!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Yippee! Hope it hurt!

-ccm

8 posted on 10/07/2007 9:39:33 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
And what was North Korea’s explanation for having scientists in Syria? I missed it...
9 posted on 10/07/2007 9:46:10 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Bump


10 posted on 10/07/2007 9:49:30 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: maine-iac7
And what was North Korea’s explanation for having scientists in Syria? I missed it...

Working on a baby formula factory.

11 posted on 10/07/2007 9:51:21 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: HardStarboard

The mid-July date would have the ship at sea. As I mentioned on another thread, I wonder why they didn’t just sink it in a deep part of the ocean. No fallout, no witnesses, etc. Put the discussion led to waiting until the Israelis could gather proof, the actual materials, etc. The way the quote is written it makes it sound like Rice objected to the attack. Perhaps she just objected to the earlier plans?


12 posted on 10/07/2007 9:52:14 PM PDT by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Too bad, too sad...my “I could give a damn” button is stuck on who gives a damn about a sorry bunch of rag heads and their slimy enablers. It is way past time to hit a bunch of slimes with every thing we have.
13 posted on 10/07/2007 9:52:38 PM PDT by Lewite (Praise YAHWEH and Proclaim His Wonderful Name! Islam, the end time Beast-the harlot of Babylon.)
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To: SevenofNine

This is why they (DPRK) had the very unusual, angry KCNA news dispatch of two weeks ago, angrily denouncing the strike on Syria, which of course was also an Israeli attack on North Korea.


14 posted on 10/07/2007 9:53:18 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: West Coast Conservative

ping


15 posted on 10/07/2007 9:53:36 PM PDT by squidly
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To: West Coast Conservative

“Washington Post: Several N. Korean scientists hurt in IAF strike in Syria”

Note to self:
If ever visiting Syria, learn useful Arabic phrases, for example:
“Take COVER!!!”


16 posted on 10/07/2007 9:54:06 PM PDT by VOA
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To: West Coast Conservative; Dog; TigerLikesRooster; section9; AmericanInTokyo; jeffers; Cap Huff
Let's look at what is being claimed:

"A top-secret report by the U.S. intelligence services says several North Korean scientists were injured in Israel's strike in Syria last month, top Washington Post columnist Jim Hoagland reported in the paper Sunday.
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Over the weekend, the American television network ABC reported that President George W. Bush's administration had been involved in the preparations for the strike since the summer. According to ABC, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had objected to the plan, pushing the intended date from mid-July to September."

So we're supposed to believe that a "top secret report" was leaked between September 6 and today...as well as believe that the freaking STATE DEPARTMENT kept plans for the strike secret from mid-July until September?!

Doesn't pass the smell test. The State Dept can't keep secrets. heck, that's why this "top secret report" was leaked this weekend!

17 posted on 10/07/2007 9:57:59 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: West Coast Conservative

18 posted on 10/07/2007 10:01:22 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: West Coast Conservative

Little yellow bastards should stay out of the Middle East!!!! (I’m not racist- I just like the way that sounds)


19 posted on 10/07/2007 10:04:44 PM PDT by dennisw (France needs a new kind of immigrant one who is "selected, not endured" - Nicholas Sarkozy)
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To: West Coast Conservative

That’s what I call a “two-fer”


20 posted on 10/07/2007 10:15:55 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: BigBobber
Working on a baby formula factory.


21 posted on 10/07/2007 10:22:12 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: West Coast Conservative

This is big news. why isn’t the media all over this daily?


22 posted on 10/07/2007 10:31:39 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...

Gee, I sure hope they get well soon. /sarc


23 posted on 10/07/2007 10:38:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: West Coast Conservative

The ship docked on 3 September, and the target was hit on 6 September.

The speed and daring of this attack suggest the target was a time-urgent threat to the survival of Israel.

Perhaps the North Korean shipment was not only uranium for a bunch of dirty bombs, but also included at least one warhead ready to be mounted on a missile.


24 posted on 10/07/2007 10:42:15 PM PDT by zot
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To: HardStarboard

OK.

The base in Syria is a hardened chem/bio/nuc weapons facility with extensive underground complexes.

The components for a nuclear warhead were provided by the Russians who removed the items from Iraq prior to the liberation of Iraq by coalition forces and stored them in this facility.

We didn’t stop them, even though we watched them do it. We didn’t want to,as the items were safe there.

What was on the ship was a missile capable of carrying a nuclear warhead and getting it to England, France, or even the US.

The IDF got soil samples as proof of the plutonium processing that was going on at the facility, but the ship was carrying a missile, from North Korea.

That is what Lil Kim has been testing (remember????)

We didn’t stop it at sea, because we had nothing we could do about them carrying a missile, even an ICBM. It is not against any treaty to have a missile, as long as it doesn’t have a nuke warhead.

Ah-am-a-nutjob has been frothing at the mouth about attacking the US, with nukes, because the plan was for Syria to fire it, and have us blame Iran. They would have claimed innocence and would have retaliated (which the UN would have supported) because it would be obvious the missile didn’t come from Iran. The whole world was supposed to feel sorry for IRAN and mad at the US for mistakenly attacking IRAN.

As the British would say, the IDF and the US dropped a spanner in the works.

The NK guys were missile techs and we turned them into daisy pushers.

Expect to see some major changes in the tide of the War against terrorism, and in the attitudes of some of the Mideast leaders.


25 posted on 10/07/2007 10:56:59 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (((Wi arr mi kidz faling skool ?)))
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To: UCANSEE2

Kim Jong-Il feels a little more “ronery”.


26 posted on 10/07/2007 11:31:54 PM PDT by Judges Gone Wild
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To: janetjanet998
This is big news. why isn’t the media all over this daily?

The US Media isn't because it would make President Bush LOOK PRESIDENTIAL and demostrate that the WAR ON TERROR is more than a bumper sticker....

The world Media has been reporting it and much of it has show up on Free Republic threads...... see this:

Keyword list of Freerepublic threads on the Sept 6, 2007 IAF Attack on Syria ..Possible NUKES .... ^

27 posted on 10/07/2007 11:55:32 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

>> Hoagland said the site of the attack was a plutonium enrichment facility for the Syrian nuclear program.

I have no idea what they hit. (Except that I believe that it had something to do with a nuclear capability of some sort.)

What is gratifying to me is that the collective “we” (probably, Israel) KNEW ABOUT IT, whatever it was.

I sleep better at night believing that our intelligence from Syria (and, hopefully, from Iran) isn’t completely in the dumper.


28 posted on 10/08/2007 4:58:21 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I wonder what we going see Pyrongnag Sally badmouth Israel pretty soon

I Miss her LOL she is baghdad Bob of North Korea LOL!


29 posted on 10/08/2007 10:03:20 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: West Coast Conservative
Related link...

‘So close to war’: We came so close to World War Three that day (Israeli Attack On Syria)

30 posted on 10/08/2007 10:05:46 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: HardStarboard

......Something was on that ship ......

How about plutonium and scientists


31 posted on 10/08/2007 10:07:22 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller; ...

N.Korean scientists in the Mid East ping


32 posted on 10/08/2007 10:08:29 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: West Coast Conservative
A top-secret report by the U.S. intelligence services says

Not top secret any more I see. The Slimes direct line into getting these reports seem to still be intact. It really bothers me that these slimeballs hid in the intelligence community continue to leak these reports. These are more dangerous than the Marxists. It give the enemy direct knowledge of what we know.

33 posted on 10/08/2007 10:14:32 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Marxist Dimocrats & Harry Reid are the true PHONY supporters of the Military.)
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To: Maynerd
The NK scientists collateral damage is icing on the cake.

It cannot be said enough, the scientists and technicians should never, ever be collateral damage. They should be the prime targets. Attacking off hours to minimize "collateral" damage makes absolutely no sense. The human capital is the most vulnerable and value part of the whole operation.

Besides, it discourages entrants into the field.

Maj. Gen. Walter Dorenberger, the project lead for the German V2 said the greatest effect of the Anglo-American bombing raid on Peenemunde was that it killed a number of irreplaceable scientists and engineers.

34 posted on 10/08/2007 10:15:33 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Southack
All policy decision-making regarding N. Korea had to go through Condi. In such a capacity, she has to know what kind of operation is in progress, even though it is not necessarily the operational detail or timing.

If she was completely out of loop, it is because Bush and others knew that she would do her best to sabotage the operation.

She and her fellow travelers, not just in State Dept. but in foreign policy community, including the majority of CFR, are major impediment to providing solution to Axis-of-evil problems. They are the ones promoting Bush's diplomatic failures while they do nothing but indefinite appeasement to these players.

If Condi was out of loop as you said, so what? It does not change the fact that she is also the part of the problem. If Bush kicks her out, why is it such a problem except to those who are screwing up the solutions such as Dems, RINO's, and "European intellectuals"?

35 posted on 10/08/2007 10:26:25 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: RetiredArmy

I agree with you. But in this case there is something else going on. The information is slowly leaching out. Not typical of a State Department leak. I think this info is being placed out there incrementally and intentionally. Most likely for reasons to divert attention from the Hummit sources.


36 posted on 10/08/2007 10:26:47 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (What he posted.)
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To: Southack

I believe it.

The IDF fighters trained in the Arizona desert this summer. The US supplied the Israelis with IFF codes for the raid. US planes monitored the smoke plumes after the raid, and detected the radiation.

What’s not to believe?


37 posted on 10/08/2007 10:36:33 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

That our sieve-like State Department could keep a secret for months.

Our military? Sure.

Our State Department?

No way.


38 posted on 10/08/2007 10:38:44 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

It was compartmentalized.


39 posted on 10/08/2007 10:44:37 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Southack

Remember, 3 different “anonymous” military source leaked that B52 warheads story right around this time. I still think that was psyops. Plus there were B52s in the air around the world during the days surrounding the Israeli raid, talking loudly and openly on the HF frequencies to make sure “the other side” knew they were up there when news of this incident spread.


40 posted on 10/08/2007 10:49:02 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Including our State Department in *anything* defeats compartmentalization.

They leak everything.


41 posted on 10/08/2007 10:50:14 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

the admin also leaked they were “shocked” our CIA had nothing on this material moving around...


42 posted on 10/08/2007 10:52:10 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Naw. A reporter made that up out of whole cloth (or was conned by a malcontent who was doing something off of Company time).


43 posted on 10/08/2007 10:59:03 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"Hoagland said the site of the attack was a plutonium enrichment facility for the Syrian nuclear program."

So the plutonium was already created in a reactor before it arrived on-site. Since North Korea is supposedly getting out of the plutonium manufacturing business, and since their scientists were there, it is almost certainly theirs.

North Korea provides the raw plutonium and the rocket.

Syria provides the enrichment plant and the launch site.

The A.Q Khan network provides the technical know-how.

Iran provides the money.

The Western Left provides the propaganda cover.

It is a joint effort to destroy Israel, pure and simple.

44 posted on 10/08/2007 12:42:04 PM PDT by the lone wolf (Good Luck, and watch out for stobor.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Maj. Gen. Walter Dorenberger, the project lead for the German V2 said the greatest effect of the Anglo-American bombing raid on Peenemunde was that it killed a number of irreplaceable scientists and engineers.

Excellent point. We, rightly, view our soldiers lives as far more valuable than the equipment they use. Ergo maximum damage = enemy casualties.

45 posted on 10/08/2007 5:11:21 PM PDT by Maynerd (Hilary = amnesty and socialized medicine)
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To: Southack
Of course, only the very top tier can be trusted the embed bureaucrats at State are hard lefties....

Dr. Wheeler says State needs to be cleared out badly and completely. He says hire lawyers outside of the beltway....find the ones that can be fired, the others transfer 'em to the ends of the earth as visa processors...if they don't like that assignment give 'em a retirement package. Then hire new employees from middle America and definitely NO one whose had an Ivy League eduction.

46 posted on 10/08/2007 5:23:35 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping, I am not surprised.

N. Korea, Russia and Iran, that is a lot of scientists, in one place.


47 posted on 10/09/2007 8:12:46 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (This is "Be an Angel Day", do something nice for someone today.)
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To: FARS; Founding Father; milford421; DAVEY CROCKETT

Ping.


48 posted on 10/09/2007 10:28:09 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (This is "Be an Angel Day", do something nice for someone today.)
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