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Same-sex marriage backers go to TV - New ads ask viewers to 'open hearts and minds' on the issue.
Sacramento Bee ^ | 10/8/7 | Jim Sanders

Posted on 10/08/2007 7:59:28 AM PDT by SmithL

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To: longtermmemmory
Okay, thanks. The video evokes no pity or compassion from me to reconsider my extreme bias favoring hetero marriage to the exclusion of all other relationships wanting to be included under the label.

As I've said here several times in the past years, (and it still holds true) calling homo unions a marriage changes a non-ambiguous term into an ambiguous one and promotes confusion, and is tantamount to marketing horse piss as Coca Cola. Can't do it! The word is trademarked by law. And the word 'marriage' is trademarked with a specific definition as well.

So the argument over this is broader than what most people think. Judges and legislatures cannot give your trademark to another person.

61 posted on 10/08/2007 10:25:49 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: SmithL

What the commercial leaves out is the poor children whose lives are devastated by forcibly being raised in a homosexual environment. I seem to remember one young boy (Jessie Dirkhising (sp?)) who was murdered by his homosexual ‘fathers’. The media rarely mentions what a tragedy this is for the innocent kids.


62 posted on 10/08/2007 10:27:42 AM PDT by RedBloodedPatriot
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To: SmithL

I’ll consider it when they stop prancing down the street like trick ponies, naked.


63 posted on 10/08/2007 10:32:17 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Don’t trust anyone who can’t take a joke. [Congressman BillyBob])
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To: RedBloodedPatriot

It’s unfair to stereotype people as you’ve done based on isolated examples. Far more heterosexual people kill their kids.

There is simply no need to make invalid projections in opposing gay marriage. There are so many valid ones.


64 posted on 10/08/2007 10:35:29 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: goldstategop
"Where does it say the union needs to be officially sanctioned for them to be together?"

The need for it to be officially sanctioned exists in the minds of the homos. The mere fact that they are demanding the word is an admission that they feel guilty in what they do. Knowing they aren't going to be sanctioned by the church (or the laws of God) they are forced to have their guilt mitigated by having society, through law, recognize their union as on parity with heteros. So their God has become the state.

65 posted on 10/08/2007 10:44:28 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Lorianne
I would almost agree that civil unions would be the answer ...if a person is of the belief that marriage is nothing more than a legal contract, then a civil union is an easy way to confer that status. Certainly easier than going through all of the legal rigamarole to get to the same point that a civil union would confer. Personally, I disagree, but I can see logically how this argument could be made..."we get the rights eventually, anyway, so...."

or having government get out of the marriage business entirely. ...easier said than done, but yup, you're right,

Except for one thing: forcing priests/ministers and organized religion to marry them is the next logical step on the campaign. ....you're right on that one, as well. I'm curious (not in a good way, but more in a 'watching a train wreck' sort of way) to see how that one shakes out. Libs have pretty firmly established that religion has no place in affairs of state, wonder how they'll rationalize that the state should interfere with religion? Or, will that pesky Constitution get in way?

....These are the things I wonder about when I can't sleep at night....

66 posted on 10/08/2007 10:50:35 AM PDT by wbill
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To: goldstategop
"Where does it say the union needs to be officially sanctioned for them to be together?"

The need for it to be officially sanctioned exists in the minds of the homos. The mere fact that they are demanding the word is an admission that they feel guilty in what they do. Knowing they aren't going to be sanctioned by the church (or the laws of God) they are forced to have their guilt allieved by having society, through law, recognize their union as having parity with hetero marriages.

In essence, demanding that the state be their 'god' and grant them acceptance, removing the stain of sin and its attendant psychological/spiritual consequences.

67 posted on 10/08/2007 10:52:47 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: goldstategop

I’m concerned about the attitudes of people born after 1970. Unless a lot of young ‘uns change when they begin marrying and having children, we could very easily end up with gay marriage in who knows how many years.


68 posted on 10/08/2007 11:08:10 AM PDT by beejaa (HY)
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To: goldstategop

I’m concerned about the attitudes of people born after 1970. Unless a lot of young ‘uns change when they begin marrying and having children, we could very easily end up with gay marriage in who knows how many years.


69 posted on 10/08/2007 11:08:25 AM PDT by beejaa (HY)
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To: Lorianne

They won’t be satisfied with civil unions. They view them as insulting, not the whole enchilata, so civil unions will be used to secure gay marriage. Once they get gay marriage, that will be used to secure other legal/political/social goals...
Happiness lies within, and these folks don’t understand that. Everybody else has to change for them; don’t ask them to change. If you ask that of them, then you’re a racist and a bigot, etc., etc.


70 posted on 10/08/2007 11:19:10 AM PDT by beejaa (HY)
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To: Lorianne

This issue is NOT about getting into the marriage business (or out).

This is about FORCING an edorsement of a sexual act. If it was just “a contract issue” then the homosexuals could have gone to their local Officedepot, Staples, or OfficeMax and bought the legally binding cohabitation agreement for $24.95. (free if you look online) This would allow two homosexuals to cohabitate without there needed ANY legal identification as to what they do in the bedroom.

Keep in mind the ONLY thing homosexuals are about is the sexual act. That is it.

Society rewards the institution not the individual. Marriage is a benefit to society’s future and it is rewarded with promotion and protections. Homosexuals do nothing to further society. They only self reward their hedonistic needs for sexual orgasm and attention.

Make no mistake, the topic at Bar Conventions bothh local and national IS about breakingn down marriage from the “breeders”.


71 posted on 10/08/2007 12:07:37 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Yes, that is the bottom line. Well-said!


72 posted on 10/08/2007 3:56:59 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: longtermmemmory

I agree. The whole thing is not about marriage per se. It is about forced acceptance of a sexual persuasion.

I’m actually fine with gays ... don’t really care (or want to know) what they do in private. But I don’t want anyone to FORCE me to accept ANY private behavior on principle.


73 posted on 10/08/2007 4:03:20 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: longtermmemmory

“Keep in mind the ONLY thing homosexuals are about is the sexual act. That is it.”

So true. I used to read a Conservative columnist, Andrew Sullivan, until I found out about five years ago that he is a homosexual (and totally unrepentant). And as can always be predicted, he turned against Bush as soon as he endorsed the Federal Marriage Amendment. No matter what a homosexual says are his political views, in the final analysis they decide based on their bedroom lifestyle - every time.


74 posted on 10/09/2007 2:21:32 PM PDT by RedBloodedPatriot
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