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Live and let Di? ... Mark Steyn
Washington Times ^ | 7 Oct 2007 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 10/08/2007 8:00:54 AM PDT by Rummyfan

Last week, a London court began pondering the vexed question of whether Diana, Princess of Wales was, ahem, murdered. There was so much public suspicion, declared the coroner, Lord Justice Scott Baker, that it was time for the rumors to be either "dispelled or substantiated."

So who killed her? On the night of Diana's death, there were apparently two top agents for MI6, the British secret service, on the loose in Paris, and possibly a third, if you believe Henri Paul, the chauffeur, was also on the spooks' payroll. That's the theory of Mohammed Fayed, Messr. Paul's employer and father of the princess' last boyfriend Dodi. Mr. Fayed asserts Diana at the time of her death was carrying Dodi's baby, and thus the car crash was arranged because Buckingham Palace decided it would be unacceptable for Prince William, the future king, to have a Muslim step-brother, a Muslim stepdad, and a soon-to-be-Muslim mom.

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KEYWORDS: diana; marksteyn; princessdead; princessdi; royals; steyn
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1 posted on 10/08/2007 8:00:56 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

Steyn, excellent as always!


2 posted on 10/08/2007 8:06:14 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: Rummyfan

I never became ‘enthralled’ with this woman. I found her to be naive, and more bimbo than Princess. Events proved I was correct in my original assessment.


3 posted on 10/08/2007 8:08:05 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Badeye

I never became ‘enthralled’ with this woman. I found her to be naive, and more bimbo than Princess. Events proved I was correct in my original assessment.”
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Ditto....a slut is a slut is a slut.


4 posted on 10/08/2007 8:10:07 AM PDT by cowdog77 (" Are there any brave men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?")
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To: cowdog77

No denying she gave birth to the riding instructor’s son.


5 posted on 10/08/2007 8:13:06 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: cowdog77
a slut is a slut is a slut

I don't really care about Di one way or another, but that is rather harsh, don't you think?

It seems lately that "whore" and "slut" are the favorite go to insults around FR these days.

Lovely.

6 posted on 10/08/2007 8:14:34 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Rummyfan

Rummyfan,

Thanks for posting this because I am looking for an opportunity to go on a rant. while I’m at it, I’ll alienate all the Princess Di fans, which I was oncit upon a time.

Princess Di was a vapid, naive child when she married a man who was marrying her only for her to bear his sons. She knew Charles, who would be a used car salesman in another life, loved Camilla and she had to know. She even lamented, in one or another of her interviews, that there were “three” in that marriage.

When Charles threw her over the bow Diana loved the limelight into which she was thrust and, frankly, who could blame her? Sure we can go into loves lost, soul mates and happiness in disguise but on the surface, Princess Di had it all.

It was DIANA herself who called those paparazzi to tell them where she would be. This is no secret except maybe to the babes in the beauty parlor. All celebrities do this. They phone up their fave photog and tell him that he or she will be a nightclub at such and such a time. Diana worked overtime on her Dodi Fayed gig as she was in her glory, travelling the world, swimming off of fancy yachts with handsome but very dopey Muslim playboys, all for the royal family to see. Hey, I’m a wommin. If I was Diana I’d have been doing the same thing.

Diana no more loved and was bearing the child of Dodi Fayed than I love and would have sex with Harry Reid. It was all a game....like Shakespeare calls ...all the world being a stage and that.

Dodi’s dad will likely spend the rest of his mortal breaths milking this for all its worth. This may surprise some folk, but Muslims are notorious for lying and deceiving the world on a public stage. They’re way better than the Americans are at it.

I mean come on! It’s been TEN YEARS!

She died in a car crash.

Honestly, I’m more amused than anything, it’s so cute.


7 posted on 10/08/2007 8:17:22 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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To: teenyelliott

No, trashing women and wanting to repeal the 19th amendment have become poplar on this forum of late.


8 posted on 10/08/2007 8:17:50 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Rummyfan

What he doesn’t mention, because this column would be as long as a book, is the extent to which the social-climbing, victimization-claiming Mohammed Fayed went to get his son “together” with her, especially considering the son was engaged to another woman at the time this all started. The father laid a trap and both of them fell into it, and tragedy resulted. It is an opera plot. One of the few who has behaved honorably in the whole deal is Prince Phillip who, when accused publicly of murdering his daughter-in-law, has kept a dignified silence. She behaved shamefully. She knew what she was getting into when she married Charles, and she knew the rules: you can do anything you want as long as you don’t do it in the street and startle the horses. She did it in the street and startled the horses.


9 posted on 10/08/2007 8:18:34 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: teenyelliott

10 posted on 10/08/2007 8:19:22 AM PDT by misterrob (Five down, 14 more til the Pats win the SB again.)
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To: teenyelliott

I really wish conservative men would stop doing this.

I’m glad to see others speaking up about it. It’s an insult to women and why do it?

But damn, if you say something they start posting pics of ugly wommin saying they are you.....they start implying you’re too ugly to get a man....

Ah well...moving on. Women are the last to defend themselves. It’s not in their nature.


11 posted on 10/08/2007 8:19:24 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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To: cinives

Calling names only makes a person look childish.


12 posted on 10/08/2007 8:21:20 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Rummyfan
"Prada Islam" — the stylish sophisticated Euro-Muslims at ease with both sides of their identity.

It's amazing how well two-words can sum up an entire segment of society.

National Review's David Pryce-Jones made the point that, in persisting with his lurid accusations, Mohammed Fayed revealed how little he understands Britain: He has lived there for years, it has been good to him, he owns Harrod's and the Paris Ritz and various other baubles. No big deal. He is one of many, many beneficiaries of Western openness to "the other." And yet he has convinced himself that Buckingham Palace is so consumed by "Islamophobia" that the Queen's husband dialed M, and M called in Moneypenny, and Moneypenny faxed 007, and a week later the Princess and her Islamostud are dead.

Besides always being right, Steyn has a wonderful rhetorical flair. Too funny.

13 posted on 10/08/2007 8:21:28 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Fishtalk
If a person has a valid point, I assume they would make it. If a person had any substantial argument, they would post it.

Lacking that, there are only insults. The last resort of the hateful type.

14 posted on 10/08/2007 8:26:09 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: teenyelliott
It seems lately that "whore" and "slut" are the favorite go to insults around FR these days.

I've noticed. One has even had the word "p*ssy" in his tagline lately & it was spelled out entirely. Didn't get the post pulled, though.
15 posted on 10/08/2007 8:38:27 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: Rummyfan
So who killed her?

The sniper from the grassy knoll?

16 posted on 10/08/2007 8:38:28 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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To: Fishtalk
I agree with everything you’ve said, which only bolsters my suspicion that if it was a murderous plot, then Dodi Fayed was the target. Being a bimbo princess won’t get you killed, but being an apostate Muslim will. I’ve always thought that Papa Fayed’s interest in this episode had more to do with protecting his son’s name, and smearing the House of Windsor than it had to do with finding “the real killers”.
17 posted on 10/08/2007 8:47:56 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Fishtalk

What? You are not attracted to Harry Reid???


18 posted on 10/08/2007 8:58:25 AM PDT by DooDahhhh
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To: cowdog77

Thank goodness - I thought I was the only one who disliked this woman intensely. The way she b*****ed and moaned about her “privacy” and being harassed by photogs. What happened to that “retirement” she was supposed to be entering? She couldnt STAND to be outside the spotlight.


19 posted on 10/08/2007 9:03:13 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: TexasRepublic
The drunk chauffeur, I think. As much as I hate government taxation, if there is one man who deserves an Inland Revenue audit, it is Mohammed Fayed.
20 posted on 10/08/2007 9:04:40 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven.)
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mark


21 posted on 10/08/2007 9:16:12 AM PDT by eureka! (Is power so important to the Democrats that they are willing to betray our country? Sadly, yes.)
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To: Fishtalk
pics of ugly wommin

Exhibit "A"

22 posted on 10/08/2007 9:30:02 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("A person's a person no matter how small." -Dr. Seuss)
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To: Badeye

Yep.....I remember co-worker women where I worked stayed up till 2-3am to watch THE wedding......I thought that was rather stupid....and I was in the perfect age group and life stage (single and 30) to be enthralled with it all. HA...knowing what’s important in life....maybe that’s the key to a LONG life.


23 posted on 10/08/2007 9:31:24 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: teenyelliott

You have a better term for a married woman that had a child by another man, I’d love to read it here in the forum.


24 posted on 10/08/2007 9:35:02 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: goodnesswins

Same thing I saw...I still don’t ‘get it’.


25 posted on 10/08/2007 9:37:46 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I’m not even sure that IS a wommin.


26 posted on 10/08/2007 9:45:52 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: cowdog77

Worse, Mother Theresa died within days of her. Barely a mention in the press.

The world loves a great rack, but is just so-so on celebrating a life devoted to service to poor children. And worse, she was a Christian. Definitely nothing to see there. Let’s cover the dead royal hottie with the decent rack who agreed to marry a whack job in a whacked out family, and then decided to cheat with whomever.


27 posted on 10/08/2007 9:49:47 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Badeye
You have a better term for a married woman that had a child by another man

Unless you know that for a fact, it is nothing more than supposition on your part.

Supposition does not make for a good argument, unless one works for the media or is a liberal. Kinda the same thing I guess. : )

28 posted on 10/08/2007 9:54:39 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: teenyelliott

‘You have a better term for a married woman that had a child by another man
Unless you know that for a fact, it is nothing more than supposition on your part.’

Sorry, I have two working eyes, and have seen the pics of both the ‘riding instructor’ and the youngest ‘royal’.

Thats his kid. The fact the House of Windsor refused to allow a DNA test speaks for itself. The fact Diana admitted the moment Charles saw the son he realized who’s it was, and that was the moment she claimed ‘her marriage died’ is public record.

Now that we’ve cleared this up, again I’ll ask the question.

Do you have a better term for a woman that had a child by a man not her husband then the one used up above?

If you don’t, just say so. If you do, offer it up.


29 posted on 10/08/2007 10:07:38 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Badeye

Is that true? re the riding instructor? whooeee, where’ve I been?


30 posted on 10/08/2007 10:21:30 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: bboop

According to Diana’s own words, yes it is.

Saw a picture of the ‘riding instructor’ and the youngest ‘royal’ a couple of weeks ago in the run up to the tenth ‘anniversary’.

There is no mistaking its the riding instructor’s son. None what so ever.

Perhaps somebody will post the two pictures side by side on this thread...and give the forum a chance to see what I’m talking about.


31 posted on 10/08/2007 10:24:21 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Badeye
I never became ‘enthralled’ with this woman. I found her to be naive, and more bimbo than Princess. Events proved I was correct in my original assessment.

Sure, blame the woman, call her a bimbo. What about the vow that Charles took? He had as much obligation to honor them for queen and country as Diana did.

Certainly she was nieve, as young brides are, expecting him to honor her as his wife, not to make a fool of her with Camilla. Charles had a right to buck the palace and the crown and marry Camilla if that's what he really wanted. Instead he was a coward, a liar and a cheat and a sneak.

The woman who 'had it all' had everything except what she wanted most of all - a marriage. She grew beautifully into her position as a royal, being considered a commoner. And she was a fantastic mother, raising at least one balanced and worth-while son.

I'm sure it was a great sadness to her that she was forced to look elsewhere for the affection and love due her from her husband.

Charles is the cad here and IMHO he killed her as sure as if he'd plunged a knife into her - which he did; he plunged a knife into her heart. It is unforgiveable to give him a pass on honoring his marriage vows.

What gives with you conservatives anyway? She certainly did not start it.

32 posted on 10/08/2007 10:46:22 AM PDT by chit*chat
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To: chit*chat

The article is about ‘her’ not ‘him’.

For the record, I think he’s a walking advertisment for all thats wrong with interbreeding, and ‘royalty’.

This isn’t about ‘conservatives’, sheesh, get a grip.

And given the tone you struck with that out of the blue comment, why are you here at Free Republic?


33 posted on 10/08/2007 10:50:49 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Rummyfan
...Buckingham Palace decided it would be unacceptable for Prince William, the future king, to have a Muslim step-brother, a Muslim stepdad, and a soon-to-be-Muslim mom.

There might be a medal for someone in MI6.

34 posted on 10/08/2007 10:51:36 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Donít trust anyone who canít take a joke. [Congressman BillyBob])
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To: Badeye

Obviously female, and apparently not a conservative, either.


35 posted on 10/08/2007 11:01:14 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Donít trust anyone who canít take a joke. [Congressman BillyBob])
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To: Cyber Liberty

Yes and yes....(chuckle)


36 posted on 10/08/2007 11:05:51 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Badeye


37 posted on 10/08/2007 11:20:33 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

Thank you very much.

Who’s ears are those?


38 posted on 10/08/2007 11:22:51 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: 3AngelaD

“...you can do anything you want as long as you don’t do it in the street and startle the horses”

Love that!

And to those of us here bringing out the slut and whore name-calling crap, please stop. The poor woman is dead and did nothing to any one of you.

Diana did some terrific things in her life, but she was in NO WAY an example for how a woman (or anyone) should behave and that is (or should be) obvious. Her conduct was trashy and not befitting of a princess or a lady. I believe that is a fair concluion to draw, I do not find name-calling fair or appropriate.

She was killed in a car crash while being chased by disgusting paparazzi leeches. It was and is a tragedy. Let’s not make it worse by trashing a dead woman. Please?


39 posted on 10/08/2007 11:31:26 AM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: fanfan; Badeye

-not a bad eye there, although I will not concede the point.....at least he was better looking than hubble.......but then Di was better looking than the beast......


40 posted on 10/08/2007 11:32:32 AM PDT by tioga
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To: chit*chat
.....Bravo!
41 posted on 10/08/2007 11:34:56 AM PDT by tioga
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To: tioga; Cyber Liberty

obviously a female and not a conservative....(chuckle)


42 posted on 10/08/2007 11:36:33 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: fleagle

‘Her conduct was trashy and not befitting of a princess or a lady. I believe that is a fair concluion to draw, I do not find name-calling fair or appropriate.’

You don’t see the irony of this line, do you?


43 posted on 10/08/2007 11:37:43 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Badeye; Slip18; Cyber Liberty

.........who you calling a liberal? ...at least you noticed I am a woman! LOL


44 posted on 10/08/2007 11:39:05 AM PDT by tioga
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To: tioga

(chuckle)


45 posted on 10/08/2007 11:40:19 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Rummyfan

She got into a car with a drunk driver, and she didn’t wear a seatbelt. Explain to me the difference between this scenario and what happens everyday in America? All she is a victim of is making poor choices.


46 posted on 10/08/2007 11:41:37 AM PDT by ushr435
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To: Badeye

Her behavior was trashy and inappropriate. I’m not calling the woman “trash.”

The whole slut and whore name-calling stuff is wrong. If you think it’s a-ok then that’s your business...I happen to disagree.


47 posted on 10/08/2007 11:42:14 AM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: ushr435

This much is so overlooked in all of this...drunk driver, no seatbelt, reckless driving...a deadly mix that unfortunately happens every day, everywhere...


48 posted on 10/08/2007 11:43:54 AM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: Badeye; tioga
Well, I haven't heard ti say "You Conservatives" yet, but there is a definite split between the sexes, vis Chuck & Diana. The ladies are all over what a creep we must have known Charles to be, and the men desperately want to not have to give a rat's patootie about "The Royals" because they're all an idiotic anachronism these days.
49 posted on 10/08/2007 11:46:20 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Donít trust anyone who canít take a joke. [Congressman BillyBob])
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To: tioga

Am I in trooble with My Better Half?


50 posted on 10/08/2007 11:47:23 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Donít trust anyone who canít take a joke. [Congressman BillyBob])
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