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George Allen Joins Thompson's National Campaign Leadership Team
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Posted on 10/08/2007 9:05:50 AM PDT by Gopher Broke

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To: papasmurf

>>>Besides, FRed hasn’t run 10,000 ads and spent over 8 million dollars to buy his votes.<<<<

He hasn’t exactly been spending much time expressing any semblence of a platform, either. He seems to like to talk about apple pie and unity, though. That’s always a plus.


81 posted on 10/08/2007 9:14:26 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: xcamel

“The Macaca set me up!”


82 posted on 10/08/2007 9:17:13 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: Gopher Broke

Is this "Lez" Cheney or is that the other daughter?

83 posted on 10/08/2007 9:19:37 PM PDT by yellowhammer
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To: yellowhammer
NO, THIS ONE:

Ugly swipe "yellow".

84 posted on 10/09/2007 4:20:07 AM PDT by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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To: upsdriver
Why Mr Brown, I do believe you're a Duncan Hunter fan.
Perhaps you'd be interested in viewing some video I shot of Rep Hunter's speech to the Gathering of Eagles Rally on 15 September?
The camera work sucks, but the audio is fair to middlin'
It's here
You'll have to look for the small screens at the bottom right of the page, and you will have to scroll down to the mp3 player at the bottom left to turn off Stevie Ray.

FWIW, I have been inundating the FDT email and myspace pages with messages imploring them to consider Duncan Hunter as a running mate.
4 years as a VP will place him in a good postion to continue the conservative legacy.

85 posted on 10/09/2007 9:02:47 AM PDT by concretebob (If liberals aren't traitors, their only defense at this point is they are incredibly stupid)
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To: xcamel; Rita Hayworth; AuntB; Flora McDonald; ReagansRaiders
no one - except the “aid” that gave him the note that said “that’s guy’s name is Mr Macaca” — a word that George Allen had never heard or spoken before.

Not exactly.

No one told Allen the guy's name was "Macaca." That was the first story Wadhams tried to spin (and the first of many mistakes in the response).

Allen said the word, but was trying to crack a joke. He did not mean it as a racial slur. I know this for two reasons 1) I've known George Allen for over 20 years and know he's no racist, 2) In spite of the fact that he and his campaign made significant blunders last year, he's not stupid enough to stare into a camera and utter what he knew to be a racial slur.

All that being said, what did happen is that once the sleazoid campaign consultant got the video, he and his minions set about creating an Internet definition of "macaca." You can see that the definition did not appear on Wikipedia until August 16, after the event. Prior to that it was found only in some obscure medical dictionaries. Even The Washington Post, who ran over 300 articles on the word, admitted that no one really knew what it meant.

This was, from the beginning, and well prior to the macaca incident, an orchestrated smear campaign, and Hillary's prints are all over it.

IMHO, the Allen camp made their mistakes because they weren't prepared and were caught off guard. It's a story longer than I care to tell here, but some of his campaign regulars from over the years weren't there last year. Wadhams, as good as he is, knew neither Virginia nor Allen.

All that being said, Allen's coming back. And he'll be back stronger than ever. But it won't be for VP next year.

86 posted on 10/09/2007 9:15:20 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (i'm so adjective i verb nouns...)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Thanks for the ping. George Allen is no racist, I agree. He was never an advocate for stronger borders either. I realize that isn’t important to some, but it’s very important to most of us. Unfortunately the people Fred is surrounding himself with fall into the “don’t really care about the borders’ catagory.

http://profiles.numbersusa.com/improfile.php3?DistSend=VA&VIPID=899

Allen:

Cosponsored legislation to increase H-2B workers who are present in the U.S. at any one time in 2006

Cosponsored bill to increase high-tech foreign-worker importation in 2006

Voted in favor of amendment to create additional guestworker visa categories in 2006

Voted on Senate floor to kill amendment to strike guestworker provisions from immigration bill 2006

Voted in favor of amendment to increase foreign-worker importation in 2005

Cosponsoring legislation to increase H-2B workers who are present in the U.S. at any one time in 2005-2006

Voted against amendment to fund additional immigration investigators in 2006

Voted against amendment to provide funding for additional Border Patrol and ICE agents in 2005


[snip]George Allen views illegal immigration as an election year issue, but not a priority otherwise. Allen’s record speaks for itself, and it all started in Allen’s first term as a Senator when he was supposed to introduce controversial conservative Linda Chavez for her confirmation hearing to be Secretary of Labor.

But, Allen’s friend Chavez withdrew her nomination after details of Chavez’s involvement with an illegal immigrant surfaced. Chavez housed and gave money to the immigrant in 1992 and 1993, and Allen rushed to Chavez’ defense saying “She was helping someone in need.” “Chavez, who lives in Purcellville in Loudoun County, donated at least $500 to Allen’s 2000 Senate campaign and she also held a fund-raising event for him.” Allen’s excuse for Chavez aiding an illegal immigrant is a far turn from Allen’s recent speeches that “We should not reward illegal behavior because doing so only encourages more illegal actions.” [Richmond Times Dispatch, 1/9/01; NHInsider, 1/25/06]

George Allen also called illegal immigration a “low priority” and has voted against tougher immigration laws. [Washington Post, 1/16/96]

• Since 2001 the number of illegal immigrants has increased from 8 million to 12 million. [National Center For Policy Analysis, 10/25/01; Pew Hispanic Center 3/7/06]

• Allen Voted Against Funding Additional Fencing Construction Along the Mexican Border and Against Greater Funding for Security Technologies. In 2006, Senator Allen voted against legislation that would have provided money for better, additional fencing construction along the Mexican border and security technology. It also would have set up a mandatory electronic employment verification process that would be phased in for all businesses within five years. Allen was in the minority of senators on this vote. [S 2454, Vote 90, on cloture, 4/7/06, Failed 36-62, D:2-41, R:34-20, I:0-1]

• Allen Voted Against $1.9 Billion For Border Patrol Vehicles, Aircraft and Border Security Stations. In 2006, Allen voted against adding $1.9 billion in funding for border patrol vehicles, aircraft, fencing and new stations as well as for Homeland Security Department personnel and Coast Guard border patrol efforts. [S. Amdt. 3604, Vote 95, 4/26/06, Rejected 44-54, D 41-1; R 2-53; I 1-0]

• Allen Voted Against Biometric Technologies for Border Security, and $350 Million in Funding for Overall Immigration Security Measures. In 2004, Allen voted against an increase in funding for immigration security measures by $350 million, including $200 million for biometric technologies. [HR 4567, Vote 182, 9/14/04, Failed 44-49, D: 40-5, R: 3-44, I: 1-0]

• Allen Sponsored “Permanent Guest Worker” Legislation. George Allen has repeatedly co-sponsored and voted for flawed guest worker legislation, such as increases in H1B and H2B guest worker visas.

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=16092


87 posted on 10/09/2007 9:34:20 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB

You sure do have a lot of opposition research on someone you don’t think is a contender.


88 posted on 10/09/2007 9:40:29 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (i'm so adjective i verb nouns...)
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To: Corin Stormhands
You sure do have a lot of opposition research on someone you don’t think is a contender.

No, I watch a lot of Cspan and have a good memory and pay attention to what they're actually up to. I remember what these politicians did and didn't do, not that their records and words matter to some people.

89 posted on 10/09/2007 9:45:40 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB
All I'm saying is that you came up with that pretty quickly. I just found that interesting.

That's all.

90 posted on 10/09/2007 9:49:05 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (i'm so adjective i verb nouns...)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Google is very fast when you know what you’re looking for.


91 posted on 10/09/2007 9:51:08 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB
Still, I guess it's a matter of why you felt the need to look for all of that.

I'm just sayin' is all.

92 posted on 10/09/2007 9:54:56 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (i'm so adjective i verb nouns...)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Still, I guess it's a matter of why you felt the need to look for all of that.

My 'need' is to keep rino's like Allen from further screwing up of 'conservative' policies.

regards, B.

93 posted on 10/09/2007 9:58:47 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB

If you believe George Allen’s a RINO, you have far greater needs than can be addressed by any Google search.

regards, C.


94 posted on 10/09/2007 10:01:26 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (i'm so adjective i verb nouns...)
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To: HardStarboard

He’s a good choice,but i’d also like to see Michael Steele step up and join the FREDeration.Might as well join a winning team!


95 posted on 10/09/2007 10:04:45 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Finally, Fred!...Welcome aboard!..Now,Go get 'em,boy!!!!)
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To: W04Man

Wow..she looks exactly like her mom! Very pretty.


96 posted on 10/09/2007 10:08:36 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Finally, Fred!...Welcome aboard!..Now,Go get 'em,boy!!!!)
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To: gimme1ibertee
>>>...i’d also like to see Michael Steele step up and join the FREDeration.<<<

I think Steele will sign on if Fred shows he has a solid chance to take the nomination.

An awful lot depends on his performance tonight. I'm a FredHead with a Fred sticker on my MiniCooper in enemy territory, Seattle - but I'm concerned at his ability to create the fire in the base necessary to win.

He has to find a way to get around the media negatives. I don't question his conservative credentials. To my mind he has yet to effectively address the "fire in the belly" label. He needs to do that before the base will get fire in their collective bellies for him.

97 posted on 10/09/2007 11:38:54 AM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out of Qurans)
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To: Corin Stormhands

I’m puzzled also about AuntB’s quick research.... hummmmmm.


98 posted on 10/09/2007 4:03:34 PM PDT by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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To: AuntB; Corin Stormhands

Allen a “RINO”?????????????????????

wow.....


99 posted on 10/09/2007 4:04:49 PM PDT by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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To: HardStarboard

I hear that.
I don’t really think he had it in him last night. I guess I expected too much on Fred’s first debate,but I know he’s got that fire...there just has to be a trigger.He may just be pacing himself until after the beginning of the year,when things are really going to start heating up.


100 posted on 10/10/2007 8:31:04 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Finally, Fred!...Welcome aboard!..Now,Go get 'em,boy!!!!)
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