The car contained three women and two children.
Posted on 10/09/2007 11:07:52 AM PDT by Cardhu
Private security guards working for an American security company have shot dead two women in Iraq, it was reported today.
The guards were escorting four vehicles through central Baghdad when the two women were shot dead in the district of Karrada today.
(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...
With Blackwater in the news every day could this one be a set up meant for media consumption?
Read the article it was no setup.
Excuse me if I am suspicious.
There are a lot of female and drag suicide bombers. With those few details given in the article it's hard to conclude anything, but from this excerpt the guards did their duty.
OMG, people got shot in a war zone....
FWIW, I'd consider the source first :)
Maliki better pray we don’t get pissed and pull out....I give him at most 3 days to breath.....if we do.
The AFP news agency reported that witnesses said the guards signalled for a woman driving a car to pull over. When she did not stop, the guards opened fire and killed the driver and her passenger.
One would expect that a driver who doesn't pull over (by now) would expect to be fired upon. My thought is that might have been the plan all along. We've seen plenty of suicide drivers, have we not?
The car contained three women and two children.
What were the women doing? Being shields for murderers? Trying to blow themselves and everyone around them? This is the $64,000 dollar question.
The source is agencies - that is where almost everything is originally sourced
identified as two Iraqi Christian women in this article form ap..
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071009/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq
2 Iraqi women killed by convoy guards
SAMEER N. YACOUB, Associated Press
BAGHDAD - Guards in a security convoy opened fire on a car at an intersection in central Baghdad on Tuesday, killing two Iraqi Christian women then speeding away, police said. The Iraqi government said preliminary reports indicated a Western security company was behind the shooting.
—snip—
It wasn't these two beauties, was it?
In the Blackwater incident it is pretty much conceded that only Blackwater shot.
This is ridiculous.
It is ridiculous that they did not stop and both the occupants and the society should expect to be shot in these instances.
This is a set up.
The haditha incident spells out the strategy of our enemy— create civilian empathy scenarios designed to spur public backlash.
Al Qaeda and other deadly haters have lost the rhetorical war against American and Iraqi troops. They are now turning their collective efforts against private contractors.
If private contractors can be removed by this tactic, then insecurity in Iraq can be increased by such radicals. Insecurity can return the reign of Shia militias of death which are so greatly desired by the diabolical ministry of the Interior in Iraq.
I am so frustrated that Americans go along with these ploys.
Too bad— innocent until proven guilty.
Blackwater is not guilty.
Americans can be amazingly naive at times. So many seem to think that no one but us watches our news and politics.
Thanks for the reminder, we’ll have to see what comes out of this one,, if al qaeda could get ahold of iragi and us uniforms, why couldn’t they pose as blackwater forces?
Do you think this whole Blackwater incident from last week or whenever was a complete set-up? I have been trying to get a grasp on what might have happened, and just cannot comprehend that the Blackwater people just started shooting around, unprovoked. What do you think really happened?
It is the Guardian, maker of fake news to assist our enemies and further their LIBERAL agenda. I will take it with a HUGE grain of salt.
IMHO this is all about money; it’s just a shake down. They know how much money companies like Blackwater are making and they either want a cut or they want to set up their own companies to get at the US dollars.
Me thinks you have an agenda (political) and are a sympathizer for propagandists. Prove me wrong because your posts here sway towards that.
As I have watched the haditha incident play out, it has become apparent to me— based on the Al Qaeda documents uncovered about Haditha— that there is now a concerted strategy to bring about civilian deaths wherein soldiers or other responsible Coalition parties are the killers.
The death radicals (Al Qaeda, Shia radicals, Islamists, remaining Sunni radicals) will do ANYTHING to make these incidents happen.
That would include staging the incidents by telling civilian victims that they must follow instructions to drive past posts against orders in order to get the inevitable result. Knowledge of Coalition protocols becomes indispensable to this rhetorical war.
If the worst things of Blackwater were true, they would be far less morally significant than the outrageoous moral behavior of the Death Radicals who kill innocents with impunity. This means— no investigations or trials of the accused— simply raw elation at killing innocents. Blackwater and other entities are responsible— which is to say accountable to investigations of conduct. This is not true of the Death radicals. We must keep this in perspective as things are investigated. I have no special current knowledge. I only base this on previous “scandals” and how they tend to play out.
The Guardian.... you’ll have to swallow the whole quarry!
I believe that Blackwater still insists that they were shot at first. I have some questions about the witnesses, as they’re Iraqis. But I don’t know for sure. Then again, it’s why I suggested having recorders goin’ all the time.
Now run along and suck your thumb.
Apparently they are going to have cameras and audio along with a State Department Security person on every trip with Blackwater personnel.
This incident coming, at this time, is making the situation worse for all concerned.
The above statement notwithstanding, the balance of the article leans pretty heavily on the Blackwater story.
“It is not thought that Blackwater, whose guards last month shot dead 17 people in the Iraqi capital, was involved.”
It would be typical for the islamists to set this up with a less competent security force and use them as a surrogate example.
Big lie at work.
it was not blackwater.
the goal is to IMPLY it was
I seems we now know the company involved, the Unity Resource Group a British company operating out of Dubai.
In a statement issued by Unity Resources Group, the company said: The first information that we have is that our security team was approached at speed by a vehicle which failed to stop despite an escalation of warnings which included hand signals and a signal flare.
“Finally shots were fired at the vehicle and it stopped.”
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