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Scott Ritter: Big Lie - Iran is a Threat (Iran leader = deceased "Khomeini")
Freedom4um ^ | 10/11/07 | Scott Ritter

Posted on 10/09/2007 10:44:49 PM PDT by freedom44

Iran has never manifested itself as a serious threat to the national security of the United States, or by extension as a security threat to global security. At the height of Iran’s “exportation of the Islamic Revolution” phase, in the mid-1980’s, the Islamic Republic demonstrated a less-than-impressive ability to project its power beyond the immediate borders of Iran, and even then this projection was limited to war-torn Lebanon.

Iranian military capability reached its modern peak in the late 1970’s, during the reign of Reza Shah Pahlevi. The combined effects of institutional distrust on the part of the theocrats who currently govern the Islamic Republic of Iran concerning the conventional military institutions, leading as it did to the decay of the military through inadequate funding and the creation of a competing paramilitary organization, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Command (IRGC), and the disastrous impact of an eight-year conflict with Iraq, meant that Iran has never been able to build up conventional military power capable of significant regional power projection, let alone global power projection.

Where Iran has demonstrated the ability for global reach is in the spread of Shi’a Islamic fundamentalism, but even in this case the results have been mixed. Other than the expansive relations between Iran (via certain elements of the IRGC) and the Hezbollah movement in Lebanon, Iranian success stories when it comes to exporting the Islamic revolution are virtually non-existent. Indeed, the efforts on the part of the IRGC to export Islamic revolution abroad, especially into Europe and other western nations, have produced the opposite effect desired. Based upon observations made by former and current IRGC officers, it appears that those operatives chosen to spread the revolution in fact more often than not returned to Iran noting that peaceful coexistence with the West was not only possible but preferable to the exportation of Islamic fundamentalism. Many of these IRGC officers began to push for moderation of the part of the ruling theocrats in Iran, both in terms of interfacing with the west and domestic policies.

The concept of an inherent incompatibility between Iran, even when governed by a theocratic ruling class, and the United States is fundamentally flawed, especially from the perspective of Iran. The Iran of today seeks to integrate itself responsibly with the nations of the world, clumsily so in some instances, but in any case a far cry from the crude attempts to export Islamic revolution in the early 1980’s. The United States claims that Iran is a real and present danger to the security of the US and the entire world, and cites Iranian efforts to acquire nuclear technology, Iran’s continued support of Hezbollah in Lebanon, Iran’s “status” as a state supporter of terror, and Iranian interference into the internal affairs of Iraq and Afghanistan as the prime examples of how this threat manifests itself.

On every point, the case made against Iran collapses upon closer scrutiny. The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), mandated to investigate Iran’s nuclear programs, has concluded that there is no evidence that Iran is pursuing a nuclear weapons program. Furthermore, the IAEA has concluded that it is capable of monitoring the Iranian nuclear program to ensure that it does not deviate from the permitted nuclear energy program Iran states to be the exclusive objective of its endeavors. Iran’s support of the Hezbollah Party in Lebanon - Iranian protestors shown here supporting Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah during an anti-Israel rally - while a source of concern for the State of Israel, does not constitute a threat to American national security primarily because the support provided is primarily defensive in nature, designed to assist Hezbollah in deterring and repelling an Israeli assault of sovereign Lebanese territory. Similarly, the bulk of the data used by the United States to substantiate the claims that Iran is a state sponsor of terror is derived from the aforementioned support provided to Hezbollah. Other arguments presented are either grossly out of date (going back to the early 1980’s when Iran was in fact exporting Islamic fundamentalism) or unsubstantiated by fact.

The US claims concerning Iranian interference in both Iraq and Afghanistan ignore the reality that both nations border Iran, both nations were invaded and occupied by the United States, not Iran, and that Iran has a history of conflict with both nations that dictates a keen interest concerning the internal domestic affairs of both nations. The United States continues to exaggerate the nature of Iranian involvement in Iraq, arresting “intelligence operatives” who later turned out to be economic and diplomatic officials invited to Iraq by the Iraqi government itself. Most if not all the claims made by the United States concerning Iranian military involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan have not been backed up with anything stronger than rhetoric, and more often than not are subsequently contradicted by other military and governmental officials, citing a lack of specific evidence.

Iran as a nation represents absolutely no threat to the national security of the United States, or of its major allies in the region, including Israel. The media hype concerning alleged statements made by Iran’s President Ahmadinejad has created and sustained the myth that Iran seeks the destruction of the State of Israel. Two points of fact directly contradict this myth. First and foremost, Ahmadinejad never articulated an Iranian policy objective to destroy Israel, rather noting that Israel’s policies would lead to its “vanishing from the pages of time.” Second, and perhaps most important, Ahmadinejad does not make foreign policy decisions on the part of the Islamic Republic of Iran. This is the sole purview of the “Supreme Leader,” the Ayatollah Khomeini. In 2003 Khomeini initiated a diplomatic outreach to the United States inclusive of an offer to recognize Israel’s right to exist. This initiative was rejected by the United States, but nevertheless represents the clearest indication of what the true policy objective of Iran is vis-à-vis Israel.

The fact of the matter is that the “Iranian Threat” is derived solely from the rhetoric of those who appear to seek confrontation between the United States and Iran, and largely divorced from fact-based reality. A recent request on the part of Iran to allow President Ahmadinejad to lay a wreath at “ground zero” in Manhattan was rejected by New York City officials. The resulting public outcry condemned the Iranian initiative as an affront to all Americans, citing Iran’s alleged policies of supporting terrorism. This knee-jerk reaction ignores the reality that Iran was violently opposed to al-Qaeda’s presence in Afghanistan throughout the 1990’s leading up to 2001, and that Iran was one of the first Muslim nations to condemn the terror attacks against the United States on September 11, 2001.

A careful fact-based assessment of Iran clearly demonstrates that it poses no threat to the legitimate national security interests of the United States. However, if the United States chooses to implement its own unilateral national security objectives concerning regime change in Iran, there will most likely be a reaction from Iran which produces an exceedingly detrimental impact on the national security interests of the United States, including military, political and economic. But the notion of claiming a nation like Iran to constitute a security threat simply because it retains the intent and capability to defend its sovereign territory in the face of unprovoked military aggression is absurd. In the end, however, such absurdity is trumping fact-based reality when it comes to shaping the opinion of the American public on the issue of the Iranian “threat.”


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: exmarine; pedophilealert; saddampawn
This is the sole purview of the “Supreme Leader,” the Ayatollah Khomeini. In 2003 Khomeini initiated a diplomatic outreach to the United States inclusive of an offer to recognize Israel’s right to exist. This initiative was rejected by the United States, but nevertheless represents the clearest indication of what the true policy objective of Iran is vis-à-vis Israel.-Scott Ritter

The Iranian leader is Ayatollah Khamenei you moron. Khomeini died in 1989. The next time you plan on spoiling us with your intellectual capacity make sure you do some basic research.

1 posted on 10/09/2007 10:44:51 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44

Good grief, like all liberals, history begins when they wake up in the morning.


2 posted on 10/09/2007 10:49:11 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Cyrus the Great; Persia; nuconvert; DoctorZIn; Prince of Persia; FARS; SolidWood; knighthawk; ...


On or off Iran ping list.
3 posted on 10/09/2007 10:50:03 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44
This pedophile phoney's 15 minutes of undeserved fame are long over. Mug shot of Scott Ritter after arrest for child sex abuse sting:


4 posted on 10/09/2007 10:50:49 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: freedom44

Iran as a nation represents absolutely no threat to the national security of the United States, or of its major allies in the region, including Israel. The media hype concerning alleged statements made by Iran’s President Ahmadinejad has created and sustained the myth that Iran seeks the destruction of the State of Israel. Two points of fact directly contradict this myth. First and foremost, Ahmadinejad never articulated an Iranian policy objective to destroy Israel, rather noting that Israel’s policies would lead to its “vanishing from the pages of time.” Second, and perhaps most important, Ahmadinejad does not make foreign policy decisions on the part of the Islamic Republic of Iran. This is the sole purview of the “Supreme Leader,” the Ayatollah Khomeini. In 2003 Khomeini initiated a diplomatic outreach to the United States inclusive of an offer to recognize Israel’s right to exist. This initiative was rejected by the United States, but nevertheless represents the clearest indication of what the true policy objective of Iran is vis-à-vis Israel.

I thought he might be stupid, but this confirms it. Unless, the editors flubbed the spelling.
(but I doubt it)


5 posted on 10/09/2007 10:51:14 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: freedom44

Scott Ritter. I can’t remember his military background. Real soldier or Phony? Does anyone know his past.


6 posted on 10/09/2007 10:52:54 PM PDT by cquiggy
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To: cquiggy

He was a major in the marines unfortunately but he has a liking for young girls and was caught trying to meet one for he talked to online. He is a liberal scumbag.


7 posted on 10/09/2007 10:56:09 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: jrooney

8 posted on 10/09/2007 10:56:58 PM PDT by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: jrooney

I don’t think Ritter is a liberal.

I think he’s simply been bought.

Six or one half dozen, I know.....


9 posted on 10/09/2007 10:57:34 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (QMC(SW) USN........ CG21 DD988 FFG34 PC6 ARS53)
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To: freedom44

I guess they don’t fact check what they publish...?


10 posted on 10/09/2007 11:00:01 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

You might be right. He took a really strange turn regarding Saddam and WMDs. Follow the money.


11 posted on 10/09/2007 11:00:07 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: cquiggy
Scott Ritter. I can’t remember his military background. Real soldier or Phony? Does anyone know his past.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ritter

Scott Ritter
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

12 posted on 10/09/2007 11:00:12 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: freedom44
"Second, and perhaps most important, Ahmadinejad does not make foreign policy decisions on the part of the Islamic Republic of Iran. This is the sole purview of the “Supreme Leader,”. In 2003 Khomeini initiated a diplomatic outreach to the United States inclusive of an offer to recognize Israel’s right to exist."

Hey Ritter: Explain to me why the "Supreme Leader" routinely gathers with his militia, makes speaches, and throughout they chant; "Death to Israel - Death to the United States"..."Death to Isreal - Death to the United States."

Which can easily be seen on CSPAN.

13 posted on 10/09/2007 11:08:49 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: FormerACLUmember

That must be why the libs are so ga-ga over him!


14 posted on 10/09/2007 11:13:45 PM PDT by Just Lori (There is nothing democratic about democrats.)
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To: freedom44
YOU MIGHT ENJOY THIS SCOTTY RITTER SING-ALONG
15 posted on 10/09/2007 11:16:11 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Are we certain that Ritter's not with the CIA? The man is just crazy -- SO crazy that I think he's.... overacting?

I think he's in some sort of "psy-op" or whatever, by coming out with this stuff. I'm really not buying it.

16 posted on 10/09/2007 11:19:47 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: freedom44

17 posted on 10/09/2007 11:21:07 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: FormerACLUmember

Whatever happened to his pedophilia case? Wasn’t he charged about five years ago?


18 posted on 10/09/2007 11:26:12 PM PDT by squidly
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To: freedom44

Why isn’t this fool in jail?


19 posted on 10/09/2007 11:29:16 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: jrooney

Guess he has to shill for money somehow.


20 posted on 10/09/2007 11:42:46 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Bush's Legacy: 100 million new Dem voters in next 20 yrs via the 2007 Amnesty Act.)
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To: freedom44

Pedophile Scott is a great litmus test...if he’s against you, you know you’re doing something right.


21 posted on 10/09/2007 11:51:44 PM PDT by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: CaliGirlGodHelpMe

Send the creep to Iran revoking his U.S. citizenship. Let the insane sort this scum out.


22 posted on 10/09/2007 11:57:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Defend life support for others in the womb.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Iran is already killing our US troops in Iraq. They are a threat.

Also the “vanished from the pages of time” translation about Israel is used by liberal apologists of Iran. The OFFICIAL news service of Iran has it translated as “Israel must be wiped off the map”
http://www.iribnews.ir/Full_en.asp?news_id=200247


23 posted on 10/10/2007 12:15:30 AM PDT by camerakid400
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
I don’t think Ritter is a liberal.

I think he’s simply been bought.

They must have photos or movies of him with young girls/boys in order for him to spew this obvious cr#p.

If he was caught in a sting by our FBI then this isn't the first time he's tried or done the little kiddie thingy.

24 posted on 10/10/2007 1:36:56 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: freedom44

haha... I gave up reading after the first line in the second paragraph, which says: “Iranian military capability reached its modern peak in the late 1970’s, during the reign of Reza Shah Pahlevi.”

Had no idea “Reza Shah” was alive in the late 1970’s!! lol


25 posted on 10/10/2007 2:18:02 AM PDT by odds
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To: Dick Vomer

An excerpt from an article on the web:

Scott Ritter: Patriot, or Pervert?

An intensive look at the live and lies of a former UNSCOM Weapons Inspector gone bad

Source: ROPMA
Web Posted: January 28th, 2003

” ... Perhaps the most telling parts of Scott Ritter lie in the deepest, darkest recesses of his mind. In 1990, Scott Ritter divorced his wife to marry 19 year old Marina Khatiashvili, a Russian Model recruited and used by the KGB to sexually compromise US Intelligence Sources in the 1980’s during the Nuclear Disarmament Period. Remember that Ritter acknowledged himself that the KGB used young women in this fashion, but not his “Marina”. Then there are his two arrests for soliciting under-age girls for sex via the Internet. Scott does seem to like ‘em young. One girl solicited in April of 2001 was 15 years old. The second girl, allegedly 17 years old (but really a Colonie NY policie officer posing as an under-age girl) was solicited for sex two months later in June of 2001. Are all these indications of Scott Ritter being sexually compromised and blackmailed by the Russians or the Iraqi’s who preyed on his penchant for liking young women?

It’s not so far fetched when you listen to Paul Wolfowitz’s comments last week, in which he said:

“In the past, Iraq did not hesitate to use pressure tactics to obtain information about the inspectors,” Wolfowitz said today in a speech before the Council on Foreign Relations in New York.

Noting that often the pressure was “quite crude,” Wolfowitz said that during the previous inspection period in the 1990s,

“one inspector was reportedly filmed in a compromising situation and blackmailed.”

Scott Ritter served during this period under the auspices of UNSCOM, the United Nations Special Commission. Could Paul Wolfowitz have been referring to Ritter? In my opinion, YES.

Then there’s the last lie of Scott Ritter: He’s been setup by the Bush Administration to “shut him up.” Ritter’s claims of a “setup” and the timeline of events surrounding his being sexually compromised in Russia and Iraq, and his subsequent arrests for soliciting sex with under-age girls simply don’t justify each other. Ritter’s own arrests for soliciting sex with two minor girls occurred in April, and again in June of 2001. The court records of these events were sealed until last week when the FBI obtained a court order un-sealing them to pursue their own charges against Ritter. Ritter himself began speaking out against the War in Iraq and against the Bush Administration specifically in mid to late 2002. Does Ritter intend for us to believe that the Bush Administration “arranged” his arrests in 2001 for soliciting minors for under-age sex?

Perhaps the most telling part of Scott Ritter’s “dark side” comes from a Time Magizine interview of last year:

Q. You’ve spoke about having seen the children’s prisons in Iraq. Can you describe what you saw there?

Ritter: The prison in question is at the General Security Services headquarters, which was inspected by my team in Jan. 1998. It appeared to be a prison for children — toddlers up to pre-adolescents — whose only crime was to be the offspring of those who have spoken out politically against the regime of Saddam Hussein. It was a horrific scene. Actually I’m not going to describe what I saw there because what I saw was so horrible that it can be used by those who would want to promote war with Iraq, and right now I’m waging peace.

So while Scott Ritter was filming a documentary showing the “affects of the U.N. Sanctions” on Iraq - a film he was paid $400,000 to film, he was covering up the horrific deaths of young children suffering at the hands of Saddam Hussein. Children who’s only crime it was to be born to Iraqi Dissidents. Children, who undoubtedly, are no longer alive. Scott Ritter could’ve spoken up for these children - but didn’t. Why? Could it be their deaths didn’t suite his agenda?

Scott Ritter a “patriot?” We think not. ...”


26 posted on 10/10/2007 3:34:31 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Thinking out loud while grinding teeth in political frustration)
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To: freedom44

>> Iran’s support of the Hezbollah Party in Lebanon - Iranian protestors shown here supporting Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah during an anti-Israel rally - while a source of concern for the State of Israel, does not constitute a threat to American national security primarily because the support provided is primarily defensive in nature, designed to assist Hezbollah in deterring and repelling an Israeli assault of sovereign Lebanese territory. <<

He lost me on this one. Hezbollah’s actions to destabilize Lebanon are defensive?

Apart from the issue of nuclear weapons, Ritter doesn’t so much refute what he calls lies, but rather he simply argues the Iranian behavior is justified. Hey, Ritter: ya wanna know what Iranians do to child molesters like you?


27 posted on 10/10/2007 4:22:57 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Screaming_Gerbil

That’s not much help. It claims Ritter served as an Army Intelligence officer from 1984-1996, but he was already a UN inspector in 1991. Or was he an intelligence officer WHILE serving as UN inspector?


28 posted on 10/10/2007 4:30:05 AM PDT by dangus
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To: jrooney

YOu have to say what you mean when you say, “follow the money.”:

He received $400,000 to produce a documentary about Iraq, from a pro-Hussein businessman.


29 posted on 10/10/2007 4:31:11 AM PDT by dangus
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To: freedom44

I guess Scotty couldn’t find any little 13 year old girls to hang with so he’s writing about his best friends, The Iranian leaders.


30 posted on 10/10/2007 4:32:52 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: Dick Vomer

Funny you should mention it: They DO have records of him soliciting sex from (vastly) underage children.


31 posted on 10/10/2007 4:32:57 AM PDT by dangus
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To: cquiggy

Someone should check if he is phony...a private in the Army in 1980 at 19 yrs old to a Marine 2LT in 1984. Graduated with honors from Franklin and Marshall?

Something does not add up.


32 posted on 10/10/2007 4:39:11 AM PDT by Paratrooper
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To: freedom44

Iran is a real threat to Israel.
That is all we need to know.
A war between them has a very high likelyhood of going nuclear very quickly.
From there the potential for dragging Russia and the U.S. into it is also very high.
Do some research on the ‘73 war.


33 posted on 10/10/2007 4:48:50 AM PDT by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: dangus
I just did a quick search and found the article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ritter

I figured it was a good place to start.

34 posted on 10/10/2007 5:08:54 AM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: jrooney
He is a liberal scumbag.

Isn't that redundant?

35 posted on 10/10/2007 5:25:12 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Thinking of voting Democrat? Wake up and smell the Socialism!)
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To: freedom44

I would listen to the pimple faced kid in the checkout line at the grocery store before the scum bag sell out Ritter.


36 posted on 10/10/2007 5:29:46 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: jrooney
Follow the money.

Or look for the negatives of him with little chirrens...

37 posted on 10/10/2007 5:35:46 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: mad_as_he$$
THIS I WHAT "THEY" WANT.... shiaIMANATE IMANATE!!!
38 posted on 10/10/2007 5:37:33 AM PDT by Traianus (YES I GOT HIM! BASHAR IS 666....)
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To: freedom44
The media hype concerning alleged statements made by Iran’s President Ahmadinejad has created and sustained the myth that Iran seeks the destruction of the State of Israel.

Alleged statements?I guess direct quotes aren't good enough these days.

39 posted on 10/10/2007 5:49:38 AM PDT by quack
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To: odds

I had the same knee jerk reaction you did, but then did the math. “Iranian military capability reached its modern peak in the late 1970’s, during the reign of Reza Shah Pahlevi.”, is correct. Reza Shah Pahlevi was deposed in 1979 & died in 1980.


40 posted on 10/13/2007 4:55:57 AM PDT by GoLightly
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Ahmadinejad never articulated an Iranian policy objective to destroy Israel

I guess the pedophile missed this video
41 posted on 10/13/2007 5:08:54 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have .chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: GoLightly; nuconvert

“I had the same knee jerk reaction you did, but then did the math. “Iranian military capability reached its modern peak in the late 1970’s, during the reign of Reza Shah Pahlevi.”, is correct. Reza Shah Pahlevi was deposed in 1979 & died in 1980.”

Hi. The Iranian monarch who was deposed of in 1979 and subsequently died in 1980 was “Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi”. Born: 1919 - Died: 1980 - Reign: 1941 to 1979.

http://www.iranchamber.com/history/mohammad_rezashah/mohammad_rezashah.php

“Reza Shah Pahlavi” was “Mohammad Reza Shah’s” or “The Shah’s” father, also referred to as “Reza Shah the Great”, the founder of the Pahlavi Dynasty. Born: March 16, 1878 - Died: July 26, 1944 (aged 66) in Johannesburg, South Africa. Reigned: December 15, 1925 - September 16, 1941.

http://www.iranchamber.com/history/reza_shah/reza_shah.php

The current Iranian “Crown Prince” - Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi’s eldest son - who lives in exile in the US, is also called “Reza Pahlavi” or as some Iranians refer to him “Reza Shah II”.

http://www.rezapahlavi.org/

Non-Iranians often seem to confuse the names of “Mohmmad Reza Shah Pahlavi” and his father “Reza Shah Pahlavi”. They are two different Kings of Iran. It is a mistake and would be similar to a non-American confusing “Theodore Roosevelt” with “Franklin D. Roosevelt”.


42 posted on 10/13/2007 2:36:20 PM PDT by odds
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To: odds

Thanx for the correction & heads up.


43 posted on 10/13/2007 2:46:41 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: freedom44

re post #42, fyi for potential future info. and what seems to be ongoing misunderstandings.


44 posted on 10/13/2007 11:35:23 PM PDT by odds
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To: freedom44
In 2003 Khomeini initiated a diplomatic outreach to the United States inclusive of an offer to recognize Israel’s right to exist.


45 posted on 10/13/2007 11:42:00 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: freedom44
The Iran of today seeks to integrate itself responsibly with the nations of the world, clumsily so in some instances, but in any case a far cry from the crude attempts to export Islamic revolution in the early 1980’s

This guy's definately on crack.

46 posted on 10/13/2007 11:42:12 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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