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Reid gets warm reception at BYU
The Deseret News ^ | October 10, 2007 | Tad Walsh

Posted on 10/10/2007 5:54:42 AM PDT by Utah Binger

PROVO — Some past prominent LDS Church leaders wrongly pressed conservatism on church members, U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Tuesday during a press conference at Brigham Young University.

The Nevada senator attacked President Bush and evangelical Christians while saying members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints need to worry less about abortion and gay marriage and more about health care, global warming, education and jobs.

Reid first spent 40 minutes delivering a well-received and sometimes tender BYU forum speech in the Marriott Center to 4,091 students, faculty, staff and visitors. He described a journey from an underprivileged, non-religious childhood in tiny Searchlight, Nev., to his position as the highest-ranking Mormon in American government.

"Democrats have not always been in the (church's) minority, and I believe we won't be for too long," he said.

He elaborated during a harder-hitting, 12-minute press conference. "The best missionary we have for that is George Bush," he said. "People are switching parties all over the country."

Reid said Ezra Taft Benson, active in very conservative politics before he became a president of the LDS Church, and Ernest L. Wilkinson, the president of BYU from 1951-71, were among past church leaders "who were very right-wing people politically."

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Amazing things are happening. To think he gets away with this without challenge is very troubling. I really wish Hatch and Bennett had the guts to challenge him openly. And where is the church leadership?
1 posted on 10/10/2007 5:54:45 AM PDT by Utah Binger
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To: Utah Binger

Methodists. Mormons. What’s the difference?


2 posted on 10/10/2007 5:55:59 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Utah Binger

Wow. If true.


3 posted on 10/10/2007 5:57:08 AM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
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To: colorcountry; greyfoxx39; Elsie

Reid even professed to being a card carrying temple goer. Hard to believe.


4 posted on 10/10/2007 5:57:27 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Sanctimony: Feigned piety or righteousness; hypocritical devoutness.)
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To: Utah Binger

Resign Harry POS Reid. You lyin’ elitist surrender punk.


5 posted on 10/10/2007 6:00:09 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: AppyPappy
Methodists. Mormons. What’s the difference?

That is really not the point of this. Point is, Reid got away with his leftist views and lies to the children of conservatives.

6 posted on 10/10/2007 6:02:01 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Sanctimony: Feigned piety or righteousness; hypocritical devoutness.)
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To: Utah Binger
The BYU college Republicans basically said they didn’t protest Reid because they feel it is disrespectful to protest our leaders when they are given a forum to speak. One Republican said the student body should be embarrassed by the way the Democrats treated Dick Cheney and that the Republicans had more respect for our leaders than that.
7 posted on 10/10/2007 6:03:54 AM PDT by Skenderbej
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To: Utah Binger
We have a country that needs to do something about health care. Global warming is here. We have a president who doesn't know how to pronounce the words."

This from the man who cannot pronounce the word "judiciary" or pretty much any word with more than three syllables for that matter.

Oh, and Harry Reid is a liar. I don't believe that is a value of the Mormon church.

What a petty, disgusting little man he is.

8 posted on 10/10/2007 6:10:59 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Utah Binger

Well, sometimes you have to take one for the team.


9 posted on 10/10/2007 6:12:53 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Bahbah

To think they came within 428 votes of dumping him in 1998. What a service Jon Ensign would have done if he had won in ‘98. What a shame. This was after Reid denigrated his opponent and insulted him for being just a veterinarian. How vile. A petty little man indeed. I guess the Dems stole just enough votes to give him another term that time. Made it that much more upsetting that he won big in 2004. Maybe if President Hillary screws up badly and 2010 is a good GOP year, Soiled Harry can be dumped.


10 posted on 10/10/2007 6:14:22 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: TNCMAXQ

The problem with that election: 6,000 Nevadans voted for the Libertarian Senate candidate.

If only a fraction of that number had voted Republican, Harry Reid the liar would be in Searchlight today shoveling donkey crap.


11 posted on 10/10/2007 6:18:26 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (My number one goal in life is to leave a bigger carbon footprint than Al Gore.)
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To: Utah Binger
Trouble is that BYU, while religiously affiliated with a conservative church, is not really that different from other colleges and universities when you examine the faculty (most are liberals) and the malleable, naive student body, most of whom are afraid to challenge profs in classes.
12 posted on 10/10/2007 6:24:48 AM PDT by meandog (I'm one of the FEW and the BRAVE FReepers still supporting John McCain)
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To: Bahbah
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What a petty, disgusting little man he is.

13 posted on 10/10/2007 6:26:00 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 ( Mexico does not stop at its border, Wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico. Calderon)
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To: Utah Binger
Reid even professed to being a card carrying temple goer. Hard to believe.

Welll....we don't know who his Bishop is and how he answered the following questions:

TEMPLE RECOMMEND QUESTIONS ASKED BY BISHOP

1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other oblgations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?

Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?
14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

14 posted on 10/10/2007 6:34:09 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 ( Mexico does not stop at its border, Wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico. Calderon)
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To: Bahbah
Oh, and Harry Reid is a liar

Right on!

15 posted on 10/10/2007 6:35:15 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Sanctimony: Feigned piety or righteousness; hypocritical devoutness.)
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To: colorcountry; FastCoyote

Ping


16 posted on 10/10/2007 6:36:04 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 ( Mexico does not stop at its border, Wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico. Calderon)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
If only a fraction of that number had voted Republican, Harry Reid the liar would be in Searchlight today shoveling donkey crap.

Now he is in DC shoveling donkey crap. Damn. He'd do a better job in Searchlight.

Maybe next time.

I hope he goes the way of Tom Dash-Hole.

17 posted on 10/10/2007 6:36:53 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: greyfoxx39
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

Only when speaking to the "Children" at BYU and wearing a see through white shirt to show his smile.

18 posted on 10/10/2007 6:38:20 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Sanctimony: Feigned piety or righteousness; hypocritical devoutness.)
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To: Utah Binger
Harry Reid is the main reason I left the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. When I found he was Temple-worthy (during a visit to the St. George Temple) my Recommend suddenly meant nothing.

...and yes, that's the truth.

The Church has an article of faith that states:

We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

Reid does not honor the Constitution. Instead, he honors some evil people. I believe the Church has a duty to excommunicate him for his authoritative lies and political game-playing, but they don't. Instead I heard Reid and his pack of lies while hearing the members saying we're the "true church." - - what a bunch of bull!

If the Church charges us with being subject to governments, it must ensure the good path of government, otherwise it will end up supporting evil governments and evil politicians. Well, that's what they're doing!

Our greatest calling on earth is to fight evil. If we don't fight it, we're in spiritual trouble. If we help it, as the Church does with Reid, it's worse. I've said enough.

19 posted on 10/10/2007 6:40:54 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Life was better when cigarette companies could advertise and lawyers could not)
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To: meandog
malleable, naive student body, most of whom are afraid to challenge profs in classes.

That is very true, however the "owners" of the college and the two senators from Utah, Bennett and Hatch have not yet to my knowledge, made any effort to stand up to this dumb bastard Reid.

20 posted on 10/10/2007 6:42:40 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Sanctimony: Feigned piety or righteousness; hypocritical devoutness.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Good post - Allow me to ping you to # 19.


21 posted on 10/10/2007 6:43:39 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Life was better when cigarette companies could advertise and lawyers could not)
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To: Loud Mime

Post-Mormons in Long Valley, East Zion welcome you.


22 posted on 10/10/2007 6:45:21 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Sanctimony: Feigned piety or righteousness; hypocritical devoutness.)
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To: Utah Binger

Bloated, corrupt, valueless Republicans are driving idealistic youth from the party. They need something to believe in.

We need another Reagan to cast a positive Republican vision for the future that youth can sink their teeth into.


23 posted on 10/10/2007 6:50:39 AM PDT by Juan Medén
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To: Utah Binger

What a condescending little prick, that Reid of a man.
I am not LDS but I am offended by the way he talked to BYU.
How embarrassing for LDS that this man touts himself so highly.
One question, where is the outrage from the leadership of LDS against this man?
Or the rank and file LDS?


24 posted on 10/10/2007 6:56:38 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Juan Medén
Bloated, corrupt, valueless Republicans are driving idealistic youth from the party. They need something to believe in.

That may be right, especially in the case of Hatch and Bennett of Utah, however, Reid is not the answer for the idealists. These same naive youth at BYU will vote for Romney because he's a pretty boy with good hair. Clinton all over again!

25 posted on 10/10/2007 6:58:50 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Sanctimony: Feigned piety or righteousness; hypocritical devoutness.)
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To: Utah Binger

“I really wish Hatch and Bennett had the guts to challenge him openly.”

Have you ever wondered why Hatch has been so low keyed and inoffensive his whole career? Good Manners? Perhaps. Butt, I have wondered about this many times. Butt, as a leading conservative senator from one of the most conservate states, he has always been “very quiet” and “very reluctant” about taking on the liberals. In fact, at times it appears that senator Teddy owns him.
Anyway, something to mull over, especially for those conservatives from Utah I would think...


26 posted on 10/10/2007 7:02:52 AM PDT by snoringbear (')
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To: svcw
One question, where is the outrage from the leadership of LDS against this man? Or the rank and file LDS?

I too am puzzled by that. As I read the letters to the editor of the Deseret News it seems the libs are taking over. And to believe this commie Reid? I just don't get it. To think he had the gall to besmirch Ezra Taft Benson and get away with it is very troubling.

27 posted on 10/10/2007 7:05:35 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Sanctimony: Feigned piety or righteousness; hypocritical devoutness.)
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To: Utah Binger
The Nevada senator attacked President Bush and evangelical Christians while saying members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints need to worry less about abortion and gay marriage and more about health care, global warming, education and jobs.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
ROTFLOLOLOLOL

As a member of the Mormon Church, I would like to publicly aplogize for the existence of Harry Reid.

28 posted on 10/10/2007 7:11:05 AM PDT by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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To: snoringbear

Hatch=RINO Kennedy ass kisser. Like many ascending Mormons, their inferiority complex causes serious pandering to the elites, with thinking that they might be able to be their equals. Trouble is they get slaughtered behind their backs. Hatch is to me the laughing stock of DC.


29 posted on 10/10/2007 7:12:47 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Sanctimony: Feigned piety or righteousness; hypocritical devoutness.)
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To: Utah Binger

Reid is an apostate, in my opinion. I am shocked that BYU would let him anywhere near the place. That he disrespected President Ezra Taft Benson is something that I cannot abide. He has certainly revealed that he is an enemy of truth.


30 posted on 10/10/2007 7:15:53 AM PDT by Spiff (<------ Mitt Romney Supporter (Don't tase me, bro!) Go Mitt! www.mittromney.com)
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To: Loud Mime; Utah Binger

Post mormon in NM welcome you as well and thanks for an excellent post at #19 especially this comment “Our greatest calling on earth is to fight evil. If we don’t fight it, we’re in spiritual trouble. If we help it, as the Church does with Reid, it’s worse.”


31 posted on 10/10/2007 7:18:06 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 ( Mexico does not stop at its border, Wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico. Calderon)
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To: Utah Binger

IMHO you can’t be a Mormon and a Democrat; the two are mutually exclusive. Harry needs to be ex-communicated. He also should resign from the Senate, after his shameful attack on Rush.


32 posted on 10/10/2007 7:18:17 AM PDT by jwatzzzzz (jwatzzzzz)
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To: Cymbaline; colorcountry; greyfoxx39; Elsie
As an APOSTATE FORMER member of the Mormon Church, I TOO would like to publicly apologize for the existence of Harry Reid.
33 posted on 10/10/2007 7:18:21 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Sanctimony: Feigned piety or righteousness; hypocritical devoutness.)
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To: jwatzzzzz
IMHO you can’t be a Mormon and a Democrat; the two are mutually exclusive. Harry needs to be ex-communicated. He also should resign from the Senate, after his shameful attack on Rush.

You really have to call Harry a Leftist/Socialist. There have been decent Utah Democrats in the past. Matter of fact I have several Utah Democratic friends that are more conservative than me. They might be misguided at times but to the man, they all agree that Reid is an asshole that needs to be dealt with.

34 posted on 10/10/2007 7:28:22 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Sanctimony: Feigned piety or righteousness; hypocritical devoutness.)
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To: Utah Binger; JRochelle; MHGinTN; Elsie; FastCoyote; colorcountry; Colofornian
Like many ascending Mormons, their inferiority complex causes serious pandering to the elites, with thinking that they might be able to be their equals.

Agreed....for example note the often posted link here to the "Famous Mormons" website...

Where else can you find, in one listing, "Famous Mormons in Rugby" "Famous Mormons in Wrestling" Famous Mormons in Rodeo and Horseracing" "Famous Mormons in Boxing, Karate and Body Building" AND, ROTFL, "Celebrities RUMORED to be Mormon"?

Celebrities Rumored to be Mormon

35 posted on 10/10/2007 7:28:58 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 ( Mexico does not stop at its border, Wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico. Calderon)
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To: Utah Binger

The Democrat party is Pro-Abortion and Anti-Christian. How do you sign up for that? I think your friends are confused.


36 posted on 10/10/2007 7:33:18 AM PDT by jwatzzzzz (jwatzzzzz)
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To: TNCMAXQ

Are the voters of Nevada going to support Reid for another term?


37 posted on 10/10/2007 7:33:20 AM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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To: jwatzzzzz
The Democrat party is Pro-Abortion and Anti-Christian

Oh master are you trying to bait me? Nice try!

38 posted on 10/10/2007 7:38:19 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Sanctimony: Feigned piety or righteousness; hypocritical devoutness.)
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To: Utah Binger

I agree. Not just looks, but vision, a real, meaty, positive vision for the future. We’re not giving that right now and we will suffer at the margins for it.


39 posted on 10/10/2007 7:43:05 AM PDT by Juan Medén
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To: Utah Binger
From the article: The Nevada senator attacked President Bush and evangelical Christians...Reid first spent 40 minutes delivering a well-received and sometimes tender BYU forum speech in the Marriott Center to 4,091 students, faculty, staff and visitors...Reid also told reporters the Republican Party has been driven by evangelical Christians for 20 years. "They are the most anti-Christian people I can imagine, the people from the Christian far right."

Ah, one of the real reasons BYU was giving Reid such a platform: Just the latest LDS leader to publicly ridicule and attack Evangelical Christians, a tradition started by Joseph Smith.

Reid: "I am a Democrat because I am a Mormon, not in spite of it," he said.

I guess that says it all, eh?

40 posted on 10/10/2007 7:46:48 AM PDT by Colofornian
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Oh, and what was the warm BYU response to Reid by 4,000 of its faculty and students?

At the end of his speech, Reid earned a standing ovation from a small percentage of the crowd and applause from the rest. "I was impressed with him," said Stacie Borneman, a 22-year-old political science major from Farmington who said she is a Republican. "I thought he did a good job expressing his feelings and our responsibility to serve in our communities. It's good to hear differing opinions and to be respectful, even if you don't agree politically, and he gave both sides of the issues he raised."

41 posted on 10/10/2007 7:49:07 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: TheDon

I am not from there but I hope the GOP puts up a good fight assuming Soiled Harry runs again in 2010. How old is he anyway? Maybe it’s time he retired. Sadly NV is said to be trending Demo, and it’s one state they fear could go “blue” for president in ‘08 so I don’t know what the outlook is.


42 posted on 10/10/2007 7:57:29 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Colofornian; meandog
Meandog said it best.

malleable, naive student body, most of whom are afraid to challenge profs in classes

43 posted on 10/10/2007 8:00:39 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Sanctimony: Feigned piety or righteousness; hypocritical devoutness.)
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To: Utah Binger
"They have focused on just a few issues, flag-burning, gay marriage, abortion," Reid said. "The country has gone beyond that to other issues. We have a country that needs to do something about health care.

Yeah...

Get OUT of it!

Phooey on morals; let's tackle worldly issues.

44 posted on 10/10/2007 8:06:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: meandog
...most of whom are afraid to challenge profs in classes.

What??

Challenge our LEADERS??

We Mormons don't DO that!

--MormonDude(I believe everything they've told me))

45 posted on 10/10/2007 8:08:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Utah Binger
"Amazing things are happening. To think he gets away with this without challenge is very troubling. I really wish Hatch and Bennett had the guts to challenge him openly. And where is the church leadership?"

Don't be naive.

...who doesn't like Santa Claus. ;^)

46 posted on 10/10/2007 8:09:02 AM PDT by Landru (finally made it to the dark side of the moon.)
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To: Utah Binger
Post-Mormons in Long Valley, East Zion welcome you.

While us Present-Mormons in Happy Valley will pray your return to the fold.

--MormonDude(think about what you'll LOSE!!!!!)

47 posted on 10/10/2007 8:11:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: svcw
One question, where is the outrage from the leadership of LDS against this man?

"The Lord will never permit me or any other man who stands as President of this Church to lead you astray. It is not in the programme. It is not in the mind of God. If I were to attempt that, the Lord would remove me out of my place, and so He will any other man who attempts to lead the children of men astray from the oracles of God and from their duty."

48 posted on 10/10/2007 8:14:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: svcw

Reid’s mother’s offspring is STILL washing the bedsheets of the brothels!!!


49 posted on 10/10/2007 8:15:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Utah Binger

***The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints need to worry less about abortion and gay marriage and more about health care, global warming, education and jobs.****

Well Harry, if your party wasn’t so intend on pushing partial birth abortion and gay marriage, then maybe so.


50 posted on 10/10/2007 8:17:43 AM PDT by Kuksool
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