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Football's privilege violates Title IX (PC Fem. Nonsense)
Whittier Daily News ^ | 10/10/2007 | Vicky Barker

Posted on 10/10/2007 8:17:51 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo

WHEN Title IX was passed 35 years ago, high school athletics were an overwhelmingly male pastime. The boys played sports and the girls cheered them on from the sidelines.

In the years since, Title IX has radically changed the local high school sports landscape. Once the law banned schools from engaging in gender discrimination in sports, girls flocked by the millions to the fields, courts and swimming pools to join their school teams. Today, a high school without opportunities for girls to play sports is almost unimaginable.

Yet as much as things have changed, much has remained the same. Though schools added competitive girls' sports to their athletic programs years ago in response to Title IX, they still frequently treat the boys' teams better than the girls' teams. And in the area of special treatment, football reigns supreme.

Because of the tradition and importance placed on high school football, school administrators routinely turn a blind eye toward the special treatment given to the football team. Football teams frequently have their own special locker room and weight room. Football teams have a proportionally higher number of coaches than other teams. Most football teams have booster clubs that raise money to provide special benefits for only the football team.

Title IX is not just about opportunities to play - it also mandates that girls and boys compete on a level playing field. Title IX requires schools to provide equal athletic benefits to male and female athletes. That means that athletic facilities, uniforms, equipment, practice and game times, publicity, coaching and transportation must be of equal quality and quantity for girls and boys teams.

While the football team has its privileges, invariably, the girls' teams do not. Instead, girls' sports are typically provided with fewer benefits than boys' basketball and baseball, and are often treated worse than other boys' sports as well.

The main rationalization for the special treatment provided to the football team seems to be tradition - that it has always been done that way. Yet, no school administrator would argue with a straight face that tradition was a sufficient justification for providing the boys with calculators and the girls with slide rules to use for their calculus homework.

At many schools, football is more than just a sport - it defines the school's culture. By eliminating the football team's special privileges and instead providing equal athletic benefits to boys and girls teams, schools will do more than just comply with Title IX. They will stand for a new sports tradition - equality for all.

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Vicky L. Barker is the legal director of the California Women's Law Center. She has successfully litigated Title IX cases throughout California.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: athletics; barfalert; football; liberalism; pc; radicalfeminists; titleix
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They tried to legislate equality in sport. Now they are sore because people like what they like. If they don't like the attention football teams get maybe they ought to agitate for girls' football. It should prove as much of an athletic farce as girls trying to play full court men's style basketball.
1 posted on 10/10/2007 8:17:53 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Some people think that they can make boys and girls biologically identical through wishful thinking. Title IX is the legal extension of that thinking.


2 posted on 10/10/2007 8:21:17 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("A person's a person no matter how small." -Dr. Seuss)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Put in even simpler terms FOOTBALL MAKES A HIGH SCHOOL MONEY!!


3 posted on 10/10/2007 8:21:55 AM PDT by GlennBeck08
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Does this mean more guys will be able to play Girls’ Field Hockey? ;)


4 posted on 10/10/2007 8:23:51 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Should be called Entitlement IX.


5 posted on 10/10/2007 8:24:53 AM PDT by auboy
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To: GlennBeck08

Correctomundo! In most schools, football is the only one that actually makes a profit and helps to pay for the other programs.


6 posted on 10/10/2007 8:25:10 AM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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To: auboy

Forget Watergate, Nixon should have been impeached for signing that monstrosity.


7 posted on 10/10/2007 8:25:55 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U (At least we didn't lose to Stanford))
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To: GlennBeck08

I’m not so sure about that. I was always under the impression that a football team is one of the most costly line items in any high school athletic budget — mainly because of the equipment requirements, the size of the roster (especially in terms of travel costs), liability insurance, etc.


8 posted on 10/10/2007 8:26:10 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

One impact of Title IX, especially at the college level, has been the elimination of men’s sports so the numbers of male and female athletes are equal. It’s especially true in non-revenue sports.

It was intended for Title IX to promote women’s athletics, but like so much Federal legislation, it hasn’t exactly done what was intended.

It’s a simple fact - successful football programs are money-makers, sometimes paying the freight for most other sports at a school. So they need to stay.


9 posted on 10/10/2007 8:26:50 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("No one asked you your opinion, Christopher." - Fred Thompson)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

“The main rationalization for the special treatment provided to the football team seems to be tradition”

Morons, I’m surrounded by morons.

Football makes money. Period. End of story. Never get in the way of the money train.


10 posted on 10/10/2007 8:27:12 AM PDT by live+let_live
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To: dfwgator

It was for (some of) the children.


11 posted on 10/10/2007 8:27:47 AM PDT by auboy
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Who wants to bet that Vicky Barker never dated the high school quarterback and still doesn’t date men???


12 posted on 10/10/2007 8:28:13 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Alberta's Child

It actually is quite costly, but usually it brings in more then enough to support itself. They were going to eliminate it at my alma mater and figured out they’d lose rougly $5000 a year, after cost of the team and decided against it. If the team makes the play-offs, they usually make a bit more.


13 posted on 10/10/2007 8:30:33 AM PDT by GlennBeck08
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

What it did was take the money away from sports. My high school provided us uniforms for the sports we played.

Now we are paying for the children’s school uniforms made even more expensive as the school does a deal with Nike so the we have to buy the uniforms with their logo on them. We have to pay for transportation to away games. You cannot drive your child there they must travel with the team on a bus. We also had to buy balls, nets, practice uniforms.

We parent is now funding the schools sports as opposed to previously, the taxes you already paid for did.


14 posted on 10/10/2007 8:30:59 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Bob Buchholz
The money generation works the same way in colleges. Women’s sports are a drain. I’m from Tennessee where the UT Lady Vols basketball team are the Big Bertha of female sports. Yet, the women’s basketball team at UT is only a break even proposition while the Tennessee Vol men’s basketball team is a perennial money maker year after year despite some lean seasons. The general public just does not get too excited at women’s sports, even at the highest level and you can’t legislate preferences.
15 posted on 10/10/2007 8:31:44 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo (Duncan Hunter is the best choice)
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To: pnh102
Does this mean more guys will be able to play Girls’ Field Hockey? ;)

Are there pucks involved?

16 posted on 10/10/2007 8:32:50 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: GlennBeck08
I see.

I've long advocated the separation of sports and academics at the high school level. Athletic teams could still be affiliated with schools in some way, but let the participants pay all of the costs associated with those sports.

17 posted on 10/10/2007 8:34:21 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
Boys have football, girls have cheerleading.

I don't see a problem; the lesbians need to stop shrieking.

18 posted on 10/10/2007 8:35:33 AM PDT by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (I miss Burgess Meredith, he was a good guy.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
The main rationalization for the special treatment provided to the football team seems to be tradition - that it has always been done that way.

BS!

Typically, football raises more admission revenue than any other sport, basketball second.

If girl's volleyball produced the same revenues I'd bet they'd get their own locker room too.

19 posted on 10/10/2007 8:36:53 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (BUILD THE WALL, ENFORCE THE LAW! )
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To: Alberta's Child

That would be hard to do, I mean I come from a very poor family. We honestly struggled to pay the $40 yearly fee to play sports at all. My mom actually had to save up for it like she was buying a new big screen TV.


20 posted on 10/10/2007 8:38:01 AM PDT by GlennBeck08
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

OK! So we should REQUIRE that the same number of people watch Girl’s rowing as do football? Imagine limiting the Notre Dame football stadium to 5 people for a game (of course after this season that may be a target crowd).

WNBA players should be paid the same as NBA players? TV time should be EQUAL for men and women’s sports? How about the announcers? Why stop at locker room facilities? Geez


21 posted on 10/10/2007 8:40:34 AM PDT by mom.mom
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Morons. Guess what, it’s about what people want. When 10,000 people pack the stands to see a girl’s field hockey game, then the girl’s field hockey team will be treated differently.
Here’s what happens. The booster club is forced to distribute funds equally to whatever team needs money. So the membership in the booster club dwindles. And then an alumni football club is formed. This club supports the football team only.
Stick your title IX in your ear.


22 posted on 10/10/2007 8:42:49 AM PDT by brownsfan (America has "jumped the shark")
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I notice that during its prime events, the NCAA likes to focus attention on female grads as “I am not just a (insert sport) soccer player, I am a (insert occupation) doctor” type promos. It seems very forced onto the viewer.


23 posted on 10/10/2007 8:42:53 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Title IX isn’t about equality. It is a viscious anti-male crusade started and perpetuated by ugly lesbians.


24 posted on 10/10/2007 8:43:48 AM PDT by MichiganCheese (Pray for our nation's boys, our future will be determined by the kind of men we bring them up to be.)
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To: mom.mom
How about the announcers?

It's bad enough that now on ESPN they have women announcing football games.

25 posted on 10/10/2007 8:45:09 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U (At least we didn't lose to Stanford))
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To: GlennBeck08

Let the boys and girls wrestle each other and see who has the most fun and ends on top.


26 posted on 10/10/2007 8:45:34 AM PDT by myuhaul
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To: GlennBeck08
Right, but look how many successful professional athletes come from abject poverty -- both here in the U.S. as well as overseas.

Local sponsorships and fund-raising efforts are ideal for cases like the one you describe. And for specific cases involving poor kids on teams where most members don't have a problem paying the cost, people like me would be more than happy to provide financial support in any way we could.

27 posted on 10/10/2007 8:50:55 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Alberta's Child

“I’m not so sure about that. I was always under the impression that a football team is one of the most costly line items in any high school athletic budget — “

Looking at cost only, yes, football is at the top. Now if you factor in revenue, well, now it depends on where you are. For an average Division I school in Ohio, (the largest), you can expect 3k-5k fans per game. That’s $15k in revenue. At our school, a wealthy alumnus just donated $40k for a weight room, a weight room that will be used by all teams, but was donated with the football team in mind.

So, 5 home games at $10k, and 5 away at $5k. $75k in ticket sales. That doesn’t count booster clubs, and individual gifts. And remember coaches are usually teachers and make about $3k-$5k a year for their coaching.

Then there is the intangible. High School football contributes a lot to a community in terms of perception, and entertainment, (at least in Ohio it does).

I think football pulls it’s weight.


28 posted on 10/10/2007 8:50:56 AM PDT by brownsfan (America has "jumped the shark")
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To: ridesthemiles

She has the bitterness of a third-string softball shortstop.


29 posted on 10/10/2007 8:52:37 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (I will not try to BS xsmommy. I will not try to BS xsmommy. I will not try to BS xsmommy.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Because of the tradition and importance placed on high school football, school administrators routinely turn a blind eye toward the special treatment given to the football team. Football teams frequently have their own special locker room and weight room. Football teams have a proportionally higher number of coaches than other teams. Most football teams have booster clubs that raise money to provide special benefits for only the football team.

Football teams usually attract more total spectators than all other sports combined. Football spectator admissions and concession sales subsidize all other sports.

30 posted on 10/10/2007 8:53:28 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: ridesthemiles

“Who wants to bet that Vicky Barker never dated the high school quarterback?”

This presumes the quarterback saw any reason to ask her out in the first place.

Hey, Vick — why not suit up and see how equal you can be out on the field? Or does your equality stop just short of being tackled?


31 posted on 10/10/2007 8:54:01 AM PDT by Clioman
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To: MichiganCheese

“It is a viscious anti-male crusade started and perpetuated by ugly lesbians.”

Yes and we all hate ugly lesbians. Beautiful lesbians, hmm.


32 posted on 10/10/2007 8:56:44 AM PDT by live+let_live
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To: brownsfan

Pulls its weight? Are you joking? Football is the ONLY sport at colleges and universities that actually makes money. There’s only a few select men’s basketball programs that do (maybe half a dozen last I saw) and that’s it.

If we do to football what we’ve done to other men’s sports, college athletics is finished. Some states (like Texas) won’t allow the public funding of athletic programs, so I’m not even sure why federal law applies. Federal funding goes to the school but not the athletic program.

At some point, the schools are going to divest themselves of the actual athletic program and establish separate entities that run them. I’m surprised no one has done that yet.


33 posted on 10/10/2007 8:57:33 AM PDT by 1L
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
So they want a locker room and weight set for the chess club?

Well, at least they should have plenty of room since most schools closed down their wrestling teams to help get themselves inside that stupid rule.

34 posted on 10/10/2007 8:57:33 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

It’s easy to understand why. Most sports spectators are men. Men do not prefer to watch women’s athletics (tennis and beach volleyball excepted).


35 posted on 10/10/2007 8:57:40 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

MORE WOMEN’S ROWING!!!!!!!!!

Perhaps what these universities need is a televised string bikini college jello wrestling national league.


36 posted on 10/10/2007 8:58:10 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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I graduated HS in 1988 and we had a girl on our varsity football team. She also chewed Copenhagen. I’m not kidding.


37 posted on 10/10/2007 8:59:46 AM PDT by svanni
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To: dfwgator

“It’s bad enough that now on ESPN they have women announcing football games.”

I don’t mind that. Those women have played as much football as Mike Greenberg and he does games. Actually a couple of the women are pretty good.

What I do mind is the constant promos for ESPN Desportes! It p*sses me off like I can’t tell you. I now avoid ESPN as much as spossible because of that. Just like I shop at Home Depot versus Lowes because of Lowes prominent bilingual signage.


38 posted on 10/10/2007 8:59:49 AM PDT by brownsfan (America has "jumped the shark")
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Title IX has some worthy goals, but when anyone tries to demand an equal number of playing opportunities for boys and girls it’s just one more demand that others pay for activities that don’t pay for themselves.

Even in small high schools, boys’ football games draw crowds in the thousands, bringing in $20,000 - $30,000 per game and more. In many schools, particularly major universities, football pays for all other sports. This whining about football’s special treatment just shows how far the entitlement mentality has progressed in this country. Entitlements, of course, that others will be required to pay for.


39 posted on 10/10/2007 9:00:13 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Sports are the opiate of the inebriated.
40 posted on 10/10/2007 9:00:22 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Hey Jessie, how much melanin do you have to have to form a socially acceptable lynch mob?)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
The general public just does not get too excited at women’s sports, even at the highest level and you can’t legislate preferences.

Don't give them any ideas.

41 posted on 10/10/2007 9:06:54 AM PDT by CGTRWK
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To: Alberta's Child
Your impression is incorrect.
42 posted on 10/10/2007 9:07:20 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have .chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: ridesthemiles

I was gonna say, talk about some serious penis envy!


43 posted on 10/10/2007 9:12:00 AM PDT by delphirogatio
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To: Alberta's Child

“I’ve long advocated the separation of sports and academics at the high school level. Athletic teams could still be affiliated with schools in some way, but let the participants pay all of the costs associated with those sports.”

I see...but then the lawyers like the one above would litigate that the football players DIDN’T have to pay ANYTHING (since their sport actually GENERATES REVENUE)...but the girl’s golf team would have to pay a boatload of cash...


44 posted on 10/10/2007 9:18:56 AM PDT by M0sby (((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
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To: Colonel_Flagg

actually the fact mens sports has been eliminated save for the money making sports, is one of the reasons fewer boys are going to university.

Today a girl can get an athletic scholarship for just being WILLING to do a sport. (ie rowing teams in the desert)


45 posted on 10/10/2007 9:19:54 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: CholeraJoe

she has the bitterness of a women’s professional basketball fan.

(seriously did anyone THINK when they named the miani team S.O.L. ?)

This is the errAmerika mentality. Just because they had looney leftist radio station shows did not mean people will listen.

Title IX had its chance, it is a failure by its now being a burden rather than an opportunity. It should be scrapped.


46 posted on 10/10/2007 9:25:52 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: live+let_live

also people LIKE TO WATCH FOOTBALL.

Nobody cares about the other sports.


47 posted on 10/10/2007 9:32:00 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Tell me again how many people show up to watch a girls softball game?

Now that cheerleading is classified as a competitive sport, cheerleading should be de-coupled from football and basketball. Let the cheerleaders schedule their own tournaments and see how many people show up besides bare legged men in long trench coats taking an inordinate number of photographs.

48 posted on 10/10/2007 9:32:44 AM PDT by fso301
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To: CGTRWK

saying negative things about womens basketball is going to be a hate crime for more people than don imus.

You vill like zee vimen’s beskeetbahl or ve have vays of makeeng you lie ze vimen’s beskeetbahl!

es zee LAW!!!!!


49 posted on 10/10/2007 9:34:58 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: mom.mom

Here in Minnesota, where High School Hockey is big, big, big, the Boy’s high school hockey tournamnet was held in the Excel Energy Center, where the pro hockey team, the Wild, plays. The arena is packed.

The firl’s tournament was held at a different site, the crowds (more correctly, lack of crowds) didn’t justify the expense of renting the big arena. Lawyers and the courts got involved, complaining about the in-equality, and you can guess what happened next.

200 people watching hockey games in an arena that holds 15,000. Nincompoops.


50 posted on 10/10/2007 10:06:07 AM PDT by biggerten (Love you, Mom.)
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