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LA Times: Give State Scholarships to Illegals
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 10/10/2007 8:18:42 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

With politicians and newspapers like they have in California, it's no wonder the state has become a magnet for millions of illegal immigrants. The latest lunacy? The legislature has enacted a bill giving illegals scholarships to state universities. And the Los Angeles Times predictably wants Gov. Schwarzenegger to sign it into law.

The so-called "California Dream Act" was cooked up by state Sen. Gil Cedillo (D-Los Angeles). In its editorial of today, "Make the Dream Reality," The Times plays lip service to the problem the law would create: "We understand the objections that arise when a society extends benefits to illegal immigrants that once were reserved solely for legal residents. The easier life becomes for those who crossed our borders illegally, the more incentive there is for others to follow."

Exactamundo. But wth its next breath the newspaper brushes off the very problem it identified:

These particular students generally had no choice but to emigrate with their parents, and they have persevered and performed well in school. Aren't these the immigrants we most want to encourage and support?
Doesn't the LAT understand that whether or not the student made a choice to enter the country illegally, the legislation would represent one more enticement for millions of adults to flout our immigration laws? And to answer the paper's question: no, we don't want immigrants who enter the country illegally, whether or not they qualify for college.

Bill Clinton used to like to say that he was representing the interests of people who "play by the rules." The new crop of liberals want to share the taxpayers' wealth even with those who flout the rules. This is a perversion of the American Dream that the Times and the legislature pretend to promote.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; ca; california; education; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; latimes; scholarships; schools

1 posted on 10/10/2007 8:18:49 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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Latest lunacy from land of fruits and nuts. Ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 10/10/2007 8:19:39 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Unfortunately : What starts in California doesn’t stay in California.


3 posted on 10/10/2007 8:22:45 AM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Cold hard facts mean nothing to liberals, and I say that without a hint of humor. They acknowledge the disasterous consequences this proposal would bring, and then throw their arms open and embrace it anyway. This damn shit has GOT to stop.


4 posted on 10/10/2007 8:24:25 AM PDT by steel_resolve (Think pitch forks.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“California Dream Act” for illegals.

what a country.


5 posted on 10/10/2007 8:25:39 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“no choice but to emigrate with their parents”......they got that right but they are missing a big point here. What better way to teach their kids that breaking the law of this country will have a negative impact on them. There’s more going on about this than people see. There are those that want to break down our society, and not the Mexicans, so that they can bring in the NAU and the Amero currency. Follow the money folks. Those in the money stand to make billions when we switch to the Amero and it won’t be the average American citizen.


6 posted on 10/10/2007 8:29:41 AM PDT by RC2
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To: steel_resolve

“GOT to stop”??

How? By the Republican elites, like Rove, Martinez, Bush, McCain, Graham, Warner, etc.?

Illegals are now really 30-40 million, and will be over 100 million in less than 10 years. That will guarantee a new Latino nation more like Mexico with its corruption and poverty.

Enjoy it while you can. Aztlan is coming.


7 posted on 10/10/2007 8:30:36 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Don’t illegals already get in-state tuition rates? This is just more of the same.

If our judiciary weren’t completely broken, they would find this to be unconstitutional discrimination. Why should an illegal get a better deal than a citizen from another state?

Two of my daughters are currently attending state universities in other states, and I jokingly said as they went off this fall that they could save us a lot of money if they just told the bursar’s office that they were Mexican illegals.

Unfortunately, I don’t really want to break the law, even if it’s to get the same deal offered to lawbreakers. And I’m not sure how they would get job references after they graduate if they claim that their names were Gonzalez and Medellin. I suppose that could be worked out, too, since I keep reading that after some illegal is arrested for killing someone while DUI, he usually goes under several different names and appears to have no trouble doing it.


8 posted on 10/10/2007 8:33:45 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: oldbill

This is why a lot of taxpayers are leaving CA.
Take your equity and run..the state is broke and trying to figure out how to spend more.
This isn’t fair to US citizens and those who play by the rules.


9 posted on 10/10/2007 8:35:05 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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10 posted on 10/10/2007 8:43:35 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

How long will it be before Pelosi and Boxer et al are asking ALL of the American taxpayers for help bailing out the state of Mexifornia? You KNOW it is coming.


11 posted on 10/10/2007 8:59:54 AM PDT by hophead ( "Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Is it still federal law that if the state college allows illegals to pay the in-state tuition that the college will then have to allow all out of state students to pay the in-state rate or loose federal education subsidies? I know the Dems and RINOs were trying to remove that law recently, but I don't think it passed that time.
12 posted on 10/10/2007 9:00:58 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

It also raises the question of equal treatment under the law. Every scholarship given to an illegal means one less for a legal citizen of CA.


13 posted on 10/10/2007 9:05:27 AM PDT by kabar
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The L A TIMES and their entire staff can kiss my royal behind.
They are all too quick to spend everyone’s money but their own.
The cutbacks there have saved them enough money to pay for “scholarships” themselves.
Stay out of my pocketbook!!!!!


14 posted on 10/10/2007 9:11:32 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

California Dreamin’ in the illegal alien way...


15 posted on 10/10/2007 9:13:23 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: steel_resolve
I don’t see it stopping. They arrogantly ignore the will of the people without consequence. People vote on referendums and their votes are set aside. There certainly is no political solution. There is no redress of grievances. so what can be done? The people certainly do not have the stomach to physically restrain these enemies of America.
16 posted on 10/10/2007 9:14:10 AM PDT by isrul (Lamentations 5:2)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I can’t get out of this state quick enough. Is it possible that Arnold has enough sense to veto this?


17 posted on 10/10/2007 9:22:55 AM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"We want it all gringo!"


18 posted on 10/10/2007 9:34:52 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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19 posted on 10/10/2007 9:52:29 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; All

Related:

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2007/10/tamar-jacoby-you-liedagain.html

Tamar Jacoby, you lied.....again!

Tamar Jacoby, joined at the hip with all those other ‘comprehensive’ reform traitors, was on the Lars Larson Radio show last night. Among other distortions, she argued with Larson that Hispanic illegal aliens have an 85% graduation rate! NOT!

High School Graduation Rates in the United States

This study examines high school graduates rates in the US. It reports that the national graduation rate for the class of 1998 was 71%. For white students the rate was 78%, while it was 56% for African-American students and 54% for Latino students. (NOTE! This study is from the the Manhatten Inst. - the same group Jacoby works out of!)

From the Pew Hispanic Center:

Foreign-born youths are significant contributors to the nation’s teen school dropout population. Only 8 percent of the nation’s teens are foreign born, but nearly 25 percent of teen school dropouts were born outside the United States, according to a Pew Hispanic Center analysis of data from the 2000 U.S. Census.

Many of these foreign-born school dropouts–nearly 40 percent–are recent arrivals to this country who were already behind in school before they left for the United States.
According to NCES produced data on dropout rates for 2002 by race and ethnicity, one third of dropouts were Hispanics.


20 posted on 10/10/2007 9:53:06 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

DEPORT.


21 posted on 10/10/2007 9:56:34 AM PDT by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
According to Section 505 of the IIRIRA, unauthorized immigrants "shall not be eligible on the basis of residence within a State for any postsecondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of the United States is eligible for such a benefit without regard to whether the citizen or national is such a resident."

That's the law.

22 posted on 10/10/2007 9:59:38 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
That's the law.

Doesnt matter. The immigration laws arent being obeyed and enforced, why should this be any different?

23 posted on 10/10/2007 10:05:04 AM PDT by lowbridge (All I Have To Say Is....KERMIT THE FROG IS IN SESAME STREET GOD DAMNIT!)
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To: Bob Buchholz

Heck they already proposed that here in OK


24 posted on 10/10/2007 10:13:32 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Piss off a liberal today, buy a gun.)
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To: kabar
Every scholarship given to an illegal means one less for a legal citizen of CA.

Citizens needs to start suing for being discriminated against.
25 posted on 10/10/2007 10:31:45 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: lowbridge; mewzilla
Doesnt matter. The immigration laws arent being obeyed and enforced, why should this be any different?

Neither are the laws that illegals can't get welfare and other social services.

IF all the laws regarding illegal immigration were enforced, we'd have none of these problems. We already have plenty of good laws on it.
26 posted on 10/10/2007 10:34:01 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I wholeheartedly agree ...

... if by "scholarship" you mean "one-way ticket back to where they came from."

27 posted on 10/10/2007 10:42:50 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (When the dog bites, when the bee stings, when you're feeling sad ... Bush's fault.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Perverted.


28 posted on 10/10/2007 11:26:09 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Arnold needs to get a SCREAMING E-MAIL from everyone:

governor@governor.ca.gov

29 posted on 10/10/2007 12:25:15 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Make the editorial board of the LA Times illegal.
30 posted on 10/10/2007 12:30:26 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The inmates are running the insane asylum.
31 posted on 10/10/2007 1:37:42 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Glad I don’t subscribe to this illegal piece of (crap) journalism.


32 posted on 10/10/2007 9:29:09 PM PDT by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END Welfare)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I say we give the LATimes to the Fresno Junior High newspaper.


33 posted on 10/10/2007 9:30:52 PM PDT by Wheee The People (Go FRed)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This is lunacy. And he has the GALL to say “we need better and more educated workers”. When did Americans become pissants? I may puke.


34 posted on 10/10/2007 9:36:39 PM PDT by greccogirl
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To: Osage Orange

I was raised in OK (Boomer Sooner!) and noticed that Oklahoma followed California very closely. I never could figure out why since the cultures (other than Bakersfield) were diametrically opposed.


35 posted on 10/11/2007 9:05:59 AM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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To: Rockitz; All

Thank God he vetoed this POS!


36 posted on 10/15/2007 8:15:46 AM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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