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Veteran Trader Loses Investor, Closes a Fund
WSJ ^ | 10 Oct 2007 | Gregory Zuckerman

Posted on 10/10/2007 9:34:14 AM PDT by oblomov

The roller-coaster career of maverick trader Victor Niederhoffer took a sharp downturn after losses mounted and a key investor withdrew money from his firm, demonstrating how the market's recent volatility has shaken even some veterans.

Mr. Niederhoffer's hedge-fund firm, Manchester Trading LLC, ran into difficulties a decade after Mr. Niederhoffer lost most of his personal savings when his previous hedge fund collapsed. Last month, Mr. Niederhoffer's largest hedge fund, Matador Fund Ltd., was liquidated after suffering losses of more than 70%, according to people close to the matter. Adding to Mr. Niederhoffer's problems, according to a person close to the firm: Swiss-based Octane, a fund-of-funds firm that invests in hedge funds, pulled a significant amount of money from the firm.

Yesterday, Mr. Niederhoffer wouldn't comment. The move to close Matador was reported by the New Yorker.

An Octane spokeswoman wouldn't comment, citing the firm's policy.

In recent years, Mr. Niederhoffer, 63 years old, had staged something of a comeback, relying on a trading style that generally bets on rising markets and quick trades and is characterized by wild swings. Last year, for example, he saw the Matador Fund, based in Weston, Conn., lose 30% of its assets early in the year, but stage a rebound to finish with gains by year's end.

The turndown was sudden. As recently as Aug. 26, Mr. Niederhoffer, who earlier this year managed almost $300 million, said Matador was stable, despite traders' speculation that losses were heavy and investors were fleeing. "We have accomplished what we intended to do in connection with recent [withdrawal] requests and have an ample surplus in all respects," he said in an email at the time.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: frauds; funds; hedgefunds; investments; niederhoffer
Vic Niederhoffer blows up again.

He was George Soros' head trader at Quantum for some years before he started his own fund. Nicholas Taleb, author of _The Black Swan_, worked for Niederhoffer, leaving because of philosophical differences- Niederhoffer's strategy is to sell out-of-the-money options, which Taleb likens to picking up nickels in front of a steamroller. Niederhoffer's funds blew up in 1997 and again in 2002.

1 posted on 10/10/2007 9:34:22 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: oblomov

Could not read the whole article, but I’m familiar with Vic - played chess & tennis with him on occasion. He’s a brilliant guy - checkered investment history notwithstanding.


2 posted on 10/10/2007 9:51:42 AM PDT by arbooz ("Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man." H.L.Mencken)
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To: oblomov
The New Yorker just published this detailed profile of Victor Niederhoffer:

The Blow-Up Artist - Can Victor Niederhoffer survive another market crisis?

The last few paragraphs post-date his August blow-up...

3 posted on 10/10/2007 9:52:22 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored

Yes, I read that article yesterday. It was a great article. The writer was lucky (from a journalistic standpoint) to have been there as the fund was crashing.


4 posted on 10/10/2007 11:22:58 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: oblomov

Cassidy, the author, probably couldn’t believe his good luck (while feeling bad for Niederhoffer, of course)...


5 posted on 10/10/2007 11:26:46 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: arbooz

Though he is a bit arrogant and is somewhat affected in cultivating his “maverick” image, he seems like a brilliant and engaging, open person. For example, he hosts events and talks that are open to the public, and he will play in public checkers matches. His blog is like an interesting dinner party. He doesn’t seem to place much importance on titles or wealth when it comes to listening and learning from others. This is an excellent, rare quality, IMO.

And as far as blow-ups are concerned... Jesse Livermore made and lost several fortunes. I do not wish Livermore’s ultimate fate on Niederhoffer, however.


6 posted on 10/10/2007 11:30:01 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: oblomov

Niederhoffer seems to be through-and-through a daytrader, and his squash playing fits right in with that: what matters is each point as its played; there would seem to be very little strategy beyond the next few moments...


7 posted on 10/10/2007 11:30:54 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: oblomov

Has he asked for a Government Bailout?


8 posted on 10/10/2007 11:37:51 AM PDT by Brakeman (Eh?)
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To: Brakeman

Heh...I couldn’t imagine anything less likely. Neiderhoffer is an anarcho-capitalist.


9 posted on 10/10/2007 12:08:50 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: oblomov

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10072007/business/victor_hit_again.htm


10 posted on 10/10/2007 12:16:55 PM PDT by petercooper ("Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime." - Nicole Gelinas - 02-10-04)
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To: oblomov
The thing that struck me about Vic in our all too brief encounter was how unassuming he is. He's a very passionate person but if you don't know what he does, you'll never guess.

As for his trading record - he's certainly no Livermore, but he did have a purple patch here and there. Perhaps his many talents and interests are liabilities to some degree in a single-minded-focus profession - something you couldn't say about Steve Cohen, for instance, or Marty Schwartz (art collecting notwithstanding).
I hope Victor once again makes a comeback. Unlike Jesse, he certainly has a lot to live for and prosper.

11 posted on 10/10/2007 12:22:59 PM PDT by arbooz ("Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man." H.L.Mencken)
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To: oblomov

Like Milton Friedman said...every businessman is a Capitalist until it comes to his own business.


12 posted on 10/10/2007 12:43:25 PM PDT by Brakeman (Subsidies, while expensive for the donor, are ruinous for the recipient.)
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To: Brakeman

You might say that Niederhoffer is in the business of being a libertarian intellectual:

http://www.nycjunto.com/about.htm


13 posted on 10/10/2007 1:13:06 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: arbooz

Why do you know all of these big time traders?


14 posted on 10/10/2007 1:17:52 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: FightThePower!
Why do you know all of these big time traders?

Trading is a part of my past.

15 posted on 10/10/2007 1:36:56 PM PDT by arbooz ("Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man." H.L.Mencken)
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