Anti-War Group Releases Ad Hailing Ron Paul (see #17 for groups that want to have Ron Paul’s babies)

Huffington Post (via RonPaulForums) ^

[mnehrling]

Americans Against Escalation In Iraq, the major umbrella group organizing activism against the Iraq war, is pushing out an ad later today blasting the GOP '08 frontrunners for their claims about Iraq during yesterday's CNBC debate, and praising Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) as "the only GOP candidate who gets it on Iraq." Take a look:

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[mnehrling]

Indirect link through RonPaulForums because we can't post Huff here.

[mnehrling]

ping

[mnehrling]

Here is the leftist, surrender group supporting Paul.

http://www.noiraqescalation.org/

[xcamel]

Ron Paul... the last living Railian....

[shrinkermd]

Dr. Paul is a libertarian. He is not a conservative. He previously ran as a libertarian and got little to no publicity.

[lormand]

Shrimp Pimp Ping

[lormand]

[Hemorrhage]

>> Americans Against Escalation In Iraq

AAEII? I assume that’s pronounced like the Howard Dean screech. Thats the worst acronym for a crap anti-war group I’ve ever seen.

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[Allegra]

[ejonesie22]

Thank God...

[mnehrling]

lol, have you read the comments. They are trying to figure out if support by this MoveOn front group is good.

[Allegra]

Americans Against Escalation in Iraq

There already is escalation in Iraq. You can't un-escalate it. Stupid liberals.

Oh, and the "escalation" is working.

Stupid liberals.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Yawn. Wake me up when the Paul campaign accepts donations from these guys or if the campaign publicly acknowledges or supports their views.

The NRA supports John Dingell and have ran ads on his behalf, so in the eyes of liberals Dingell is a sell-out.

[airborne]

Just curious. Are these the Libertarian and Independent voters you said were Ron Paul’s base?

[ejonesie22]

It’s excellent, they need more of it....

[Allegra]

Stupid liberals. You can't just end a war by wishing it away. Win the war would be more appropriate wording, wouldn't it?

What's that you say, Paulenoids? Oh...

You want to surrender to the terrorists.

Well, then why don't you just say that?

[mnehrling]

Americans Against Escalation in Iraq is a coalition of:
SEIU
MoveOn.org Political Action
Center for American Progress Action Fund
USAction
Win Without War
Vote Vets
Campaign for America’s Future
USSA
Working Assets
Americans United for Change
Campus Progress Action
National Security Network

[airborne]

I’ll tell Ron Paul what I tell my sons.

“Show me your friends and I’ll show you your future.”

Ron, you need new friends!

[Allegra]

lol, have you read the comments. They are trying to figure out if support by this MoveOn front group is good.

They seem to be pretty excited about it.

That was about the moonbattiest bunch of crap I've read since my last snoop over at DU, by the way.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Just curious. Are these the Libertarian and Independent voters you said were Ron Paul’s base?

Do you understand the difference between special-interest whackjobs exploiting an issue for publicity and your official campaign not in coordination with or not acknowledging them or accepting their money?

If Move America Forward ran an ad supporting Joseph Lieberman on the war, does that mean Joseph Lieberman is in bed with conservatives and is a sell-out to the Left & agrees with conservatives on all of their issues? No, it just means that Lieberman is still a liberal pro-abortion socialist who just happens to support Bush's policy on the war.

[mimaw]

It must be getting harder and harder for you to defend the man and his positions on the most important issue of our day.

[lormand]

How did Paul vote on the Turkey/Armenian bill?

[ejonesie22]

Stupid liberals is redundant ya know...

[lormand]

I just found out that the Armenian bill did not get voted on the floor yet.

One of the Paultards are blaming Bush for not supporting it, without knowing how "Dr. No" will vote.

He may be setting himself up for another heartache.

[mnehrling]

Not seeing that here yet.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/index.asp

[George W. Bush]

I was surprised no one had posted on this earlier. The blog at HuffPost indicates that there is an ad buy from this group. But there is no announcement of it and I haven't seen it on TV yet. It seems to me to be the kind of ad that would only be effective for a few days to a week so if they are going to actually pay to run it, we should see it soon. If it's just a little series of clips uploaded to YouTube and they don't pay to run it on cable or local TV stations, then they aren't committed to supporting Ron Paul.

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Sharp uptick in RP fundraising today. These are updated every few minutes so you'll see the live totals on this thread. No way to know if this is money coming from MoveOns because of the video, or because of RP's performance in the debate yesterday or a response to a fundraising email the campaign sent out this morning.

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Total Donors For Q4:	Average Donation Size Q4:	Total Raised Today vs. Yesterday
Total Donors Today vs. Yesterday	Total Donors This Week vs. Last	Total Raised This Week vs. Last

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More stats and live update feed at: RonPaulGraphs.com

[mnehrling]

I made a mistake and looked at the wrong bill the other day saying that Paul voted against the amendment to free Ramos and Campion (SP?), one of the Ronulans jumped all over it saying it was an awful, symbolic bill that should never have been brought up... I then posted my correction that Paul did support it.. crickets after that.

[Lakeshark]

To all Ron Paulists, there is help available somewhere: http://politics.wizbangblog.com/2007/10/10/rudy-lectures-a-ron-paul-supporter.php

[George W. Bush]

Ron Paul coming up on Tucker Carlson on MSNBC in two minutes. Also an interview on Dan Abrams later tonight. And another on PBS's News Hour tomorrow night.

[SJackson]

His supporters are entitled to produce ads. They’re just not entitled to claim a segment of his support doesn’t come from leftists/nutballs, and that that’s fine.

[richardtavor]

Or, in the workforce, Fire me, I don’t want to work no more.

[SJackson]

BTW, he was the clear winner of the debate.

Ron Paul Wins MSNBC Debate

[SandRat]

Ron Paul Supporters...

Americans Against Escalation in Iraq is a coalition of:

SEIU
MoveOn.org Political Action
Center for American Progress Action Fund
USAction
Win Without War
Vote Vets
Campaign for America’s Future
USSA
Working Assets
Americans United for Change
Campus Progress Action
National Security Network

Now isn’t that sweet! Now we know why his numbers are up in the phone polls.

[logician2u]

He previously ran as a libertarian and got little to no publicity.

And even today, the mainstream press ignores his campaign running as a Republican.

Wonder why?

[mnehrling]

Sorry, I am not buying that the ‘press’ is ignoring him. He is getting more airtime than the other single digit candidates. I can’t tell you the last time Hunter or Tancredo had an interview, Paul has at least one a day.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

It's always such a touching, special moment in electoral politics, whenever a candidate and his/her natural voting constituency "find" one another.

[logician2u]

(see #17 for groups that want to have Ron Paul’s babies)

How can an article poster predict with any certainty which post, other than the first one, will contain certain content?

Was the title of this thread messed with also? The edit history does not say so.

[mnehrling]

The moderators have magical powers. Do you think the power of the zot is science? No, they are tapped into the dark arts.

[Ukiapah Heep]

They should have announced this at their annual party commemorating the Hitler-Stalin pact.

[drpix]

[logician2u]

If you read the AP and Reuters wire stories on yesterday's CNBC "debate," you'll find nary a mention of Ron Paul, nor Duncan Hunter nor Tom Tancredo. One would get the impression the only candidates on stage were Fred, Mitt, John and Rude.

Yes, there have been a few feature articles on Dr. Paul in the Washington Post and other papers, but you'd have to look far and wide to find mention of Ron Paul's campaign in wire service reports (or the New York Times, for that matter). You'd have to go to the Internet to learn what his positions are on the issues.

Which could be a reason the Paul campaign is so strong with the Internet community, even if the polls have him stuck in the single digits nationally. Dinosaur media can't get with the times and neither can the polltakers.

[SJackson]

How can an article poster predict with any certainty which post, other than the first one, will contain certain content? Was the title of this thread messed with also? The edit history does not say so.

It's a conspiracy. The neocon warmongers hijacked this place soon after GWB took office, by the time 9/11 rolled along it was complete, full blown takeover by wartime.

[DugwayDuke]

“The NRA supports John Dingell and have ran ads on his behalf, so in the eyes of liberals Dingell is a sell-out.”

Since John Dingell is an excellent defender of the 2nd Amendment it is understandable that the NRA would support him. Since Ron Paul supports a cut and run strategy in Iraq, it is just as understandable that the anti-war crowd would support him.

“Wake me up when the Paul campaign accepts donations from these guys or if the campaign publicly acknowledges or supports their views.”

This is your wakeup call. Ron Paul is the anti-war republican, remember? He done nothing but publically support their views.

[SJackson]

Indirect link through RonPaulForums because we can't post Huff here.

First comment from the Baltimore Sun site, same story. What do you think, Paul/Edwards2008 or Edwards/Paul?

If the Freepers had any common sense (they don't) they'd nominate Ron Paul.

I hope the Freeper Party nominates the phony that is Rudy Julieannie, she's George W. Bush part 2.

Rudy has gotten so much play out of doing some interviews and photo-ops after 9/11 but in the general election he would get destroyed for what he REALLY did before, during and after 9/11..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjOfBP6nRD4

Followed by

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As a registered Democrat I could see myself voting for Ron Paul in the future. (This shows you don't have to be totally "loony liberal" or "republican nutjob".)

There are folks out there with common sense.

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Can someone who is involved with moveon.org, and/or some of the other liberal sites, go and tell them to support, send money to, and get to the primary polls for Ron Paul. He is the only truly anti-war candidate. He also would not start new wars.

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I am switching parties to vote for Ron Paul. Democrats don't speak to my sense of social liberties and a conservative fiscal government. Paul fits my view better than anyone.

By the way if you are switching parties you might want to do it soon since some states' cut off time is October of THIS year.

[DugwayDuke]

“Sharp uptick in RP fundraising today. ... No way to know if this is money coming from MoveOns because of the video, or because of RP’s performance in the debate yesterdsy...”

I think it’s fairly safe to rule out Ron Paul’s performance in the debate as the cause.

[SJackson]

All kinds of Paul opportunities out there.

http://blog.mises.org/archives/007291.asp

Arbitraging Ron Paul's Online Odds

Robert Murphy

I admit I haven't personally participated in any of this stuff, so I can't speak from experience. But it seems that there are several gambling web sites with often different odds on Ron Paul. With the possibility of shorting a Ron Paul contract on Intrade, one can make a guaranteed profit (assuming the transactions costs aren't too high). Let me give a quick example.

According to this article, there are sites out there that still have 25-to-1 odds against Ron Paul's nomination. (Note: You should be careful that this is indeed for the GOP nomination, not to become president.) That means if you bet $50 on Ron Paul, they would pay you $1300 if he got nominated.

On the other hand, at Intrade right now a Ron Paul contract (which pays $100 to the owner if RP wins the nomination) is selling for around $6. So if you sold 10 of these contracts, you would raise $60. Out of that, you could pocket $10, and use the other $50 to wager on RP at the site offering 25-1 odds.

So if Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination, you're still up that initial $10. If Ron Paul wins it, then you get $1300 from the first website, and you owe $1000 to the people who bought your 10 contracts at Intrade, leaving you with an additional $300 profit.

Obviously there are transactions costs and timing issues, but you get the point. If a site is offering better odds than Intrade, you can short the Intrade Ron Paul contracts and use some of the money to wager on Ron Paul. That's the beauty of Intrade; you can go either way.

Disclaimer: I haven't personally used any of these sites, so I can't vouch for them.

[George W. Bush]

I think it’s fairly safe to rule out Ron Paul’s performance in the debate as the cause.

His performance was actually pretty strong. He got the message across that he wanted, very clearly. And his supporters were very satisfied with it.

Did you notice his fundraising doubled today? That's actually pretty impressive because everyone had such a hangover when they pushed to raise the last million in the last week of the third quarter. Yesterday's debate fired them up again.

I noticed another new site is coming online. RonPaulSmartMob.com. Interesting use of the Google API so that RP supporters can sign up and enter their location and they can find one another on a customized Google map. Some other interesting RP sites are:

RonPaulDVD.com (download a DVD image to burn directly to DVD-R)

RonPauloween.com - (how to use Halloween to campaign for Dr. Paul)

I thought maybe some of the other campaigns would go hi-tech like this. Especially Fred who showed a lot of promise at being an online guy. Even Romney has kind of a lame website with that overlaid Mitt Romney that appears on the page and wanders around your screen talking to you. I like Romney fine but that was kind of a creepy website feature IMO. I keep thinking that Fred might bring out something similar to Obama's website which really is first-rate stuff for a major candidate. Obama hired some good web talent.

[RedRover]

Fixed it...

[Wheee The People]

He got the message across that he wanted, very clearly.

Yeah I CLEARLY heard him say he wouldn't support the Republican nominee, unless hades froze over.

[airborne]

If Paul returns the money from those groups and disavows them, let me know.