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The Swift Boating of Graham Frost (FR Mentioned; TV Networks Stalking Frosts)
Time Magazine ^ | Thursday, October 11, 2007 | Karen Tumulty

Posted on 10/11/2007 6:04:41 AM PDT by kristinn

Since then, Frost and his family have been introduced first-hand to something else that most kids his age haven't: the reality of how brutal partisan politics can be in the Internet age. It started over the weekend, when a blogger calling himself Icwhatudo put up a post on the conservative website Freerepublic.com noting what he had found by scavenging around the internet: that Graeme attends a private school, lives in a remodeled house near one that had sold for $485,000 in March and is the child of parents whose wedding was announced in the New York Times. The post also noted that his father purchased a $160,000 commercial space in 1999.

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And while they are still uninsured, they claim it is most certainly not by choice. Bonnie Frost says the last time she priced health coverage, she learned it would cost them $1,200 a month.

In short, just as the radio spot claimed, the Frosts are precisely the kind of people that the SCHIP program was intended to help.

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While the family continues to support the vetoed bill that would expand the program to 4 million more children, they are hoping to remove themselves from the middle of the storm. After giving a few interviews, Halsey and Bonnie Frost now say they don't want to say anything more, though network camera crews have planted themselves in front of their house.

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Politics has never been a gentle game. As far back as 1895, satirist Finley Peter Dunne's fictional saloonkeeper Martin Dooley observed that women, children and prohibitionists would do well to stay out of it, because "politics ain't beanbag." But surely, even Mr. Dooley could never have imagined a day would come when a mere seventh grader could be swift-boated.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: graemefrost; hidingbehindkids; icwhatudo; schip; stalinisttactic; timelies; zogbyism
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To: Mercat
"But the question remains. Why should I or icwhatudo or anyone else pay for Graeme’s health insurance?"


41 posted on 10/11/2007 6:32:37 AM PDT by traditional1 ( Fred Thompson-The ONLY electable Republican Candidate)
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To: weegee
Yep. To equate such trash with the Swiftboat vets' crusade to get out the TRUTH about Hanoi Johnnie Boy - and presumably the witch hunts initiated against some of them in retaliation - is just sickening.

Unless the author is referring to FReepers finding out the truth about the trash. That would be different.

42 posted on 10/11/2007 6:33:10 AM PDT by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: benjamin032

The quote of $1200 a month is for NOW...AFTER the accident!! They could have gotten insurance tons CHEAPER BEFORE the accident but they chose to have you and I pay for their health care!!


43 posted on 10/11/2007 6:34:43 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I see that “swift-boating” is now an officially accepted word meaning “Stating the truth about things the media is trying to hide from the public”.

I think it means: "Messing up a Democrat's carefully crafted anecdotes with ugly facts." ;)

45 posted on 10/11/2007 6:37:50 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: kristinn

You can’t put yourself out there as a spokesperson for any issue & expect no criticism or scrutiny.


46 posted on 10/11/2007 6:37:56 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I’ve done here today doesn’t force you to have a negative opinion of me….)
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To: kristinn

The queers in Boston use their kids all the time to pimp their cause... this is more of the same.


47 posted on 10/11/2007 6:39:47 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Suzy Quzy

Ah, I missed that little tid-bit. So when you knock up you girlfriend it’s too late to buy condoms?
Inciteful as usual. Why do you ne insurance after the fact, don’t you need a medical bill pay-plan? I only ask because I will be joining the real world in a couple of years and I just want to make sure that I don’t really have to plan ahead. Can you smell the sarcasm?


48 posted on 10/11/2007 6:40:15 AM PDT by benjamin032
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To: Suzy Quzy
To take taxes, Federal and State governments go through your books, income all sorts of invasive crap.

But for the Frosts, they won’t release their income records.

State Street, one way for the Frosts.

49 posted on 10/11/2007 6:40:32 AM PDT by Leisler (Sugar, the gateway to diabetes, misery and death. Stop Sugar Deaths NOW!)
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To: benjamin032

I guess you can put a price on your kids health. Just what kind of policy cost $1200 a month? What did they do, go to “Mike’s Insurance” and get a quote?”

2 Adults 4 kids Now 2 of the kids have ongoing and expensive problems concerning brain injuries. Price doesn’t sound too bad with the existing problems.
She could have gotten cheaper BEFORE she drove into a tree with her kids.


50 posted on 10/11/2007 6:42:00 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: kristinn
"a post on the conservative website Freerepublic.com noting what he had found by scavenging around the internet: that Graeme attends a private school, lives in a remodeled house near one that had sold for $485,000 in March and is the child of parents whose wedding was announced in the New York Times. The post also noted that his father purchased a $160,000 commercial space in 1999."

And what, pray tell, Mz. Tumulty, is untrue about this statement? I would dare bet that is more truth, and less plagiarism, on this web site than there is in Time Magazine.

51 posted on 10/11/2007 6:45:27 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Do you know this to be true or are you speculating?


52 posted on 10/11/2007 6:46:11 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: Red Badger

That’s called deflection. “How can you bash a poor injured little child? How heartless. Look how they persecute an innocent little child”

Takes attention away from the fact that the parents are both able bodied & fully capable of providing the needs for the child. They just chose to not do that but place their burden upon the backs of taxpayers, some of whom who make less than they do.


53 posted on 10/11/2007 6:47:16 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I’ve done here today doesn’t force you to have a negative opinion of me….)
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To: muawiyah
Some smart guy out there might even know how to figure out daddy's blood pressure with the information we have and the probability of his having rectal hemorrhoids.

Don't know about that, but bet right about now it would take an electron microscope to be able to see up his rectum to check for said hemorrhoids.

54 posted on 10/11/2007 6:47:54 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Fred Thompson for President)
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To: kristinn

Politics, being a rough and tumble business, should be left to professionals.


55 posted on 10/11/2007 6:47:57 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: ProfoundMan
Thanks for the ping.

Anyone see a pattern? Clinton, Gore and Kerry all used phony human props to cite their position on health care insurance.


During John Kerry's nomination acceptance speech during the 2004 DNC, he trotted out his health insurance "poster child", Mary Ann Knowles. Kerry stated that she had to "keep working day after day right through her chemotherapy, no matter how sick she felt, because she was terrified of losing her family's health insurance". In reality, she had excellent coverage with 26 weeks of paid disability leave, but she chose to work through most of her treatment because her husband was unemployed.

Video of Kerry's Speech

Links to story on FR


Al Gore tried this same tactic in 2000 with Winifred Skinner.

Al Gore said, "It brings tears to your eyes. Here's this adorable, elderly woman out in Iowa who's so sick and so poor, that in order to pay for medicines she needs to stay alive, she has to scavenge in a local dump yard for cast-off tin cans."

"She gets a small pension," he said. "But in order to pay for her prescription drug benefits she has to go out seven days a week, several hours a day, picking up cans."

It turns out, as the statement was rectified, Mrs. Skinner goes out zero days a week, for zero hours a day, and that she was only speaking "in the name of" people she assumes must do this.


In 1994, Hillary Clinton used Kathy Bush when citing her case as an example of the high cost of medical care.



Later, investigators found the mother guilty of intentionally making her daughter sick and forcing her to undergo more than 40 needless surgeries, in what prosecutors called a case of Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy.

“Forty-two-year old Kathy Bush had been charged with aggravated child abuse and fraud for bilking thousands of dollars from the State of Florida for medical expenses incurred by her daughter, Jennifer. The mother faces up to 45 years in prison.”

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56 posted on 10/11/2007 6:48:13 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 ... Go ahead, look it up!)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Mr, Frost’s parents give $40,000.00 a year to that private school...TAX DEDUCTIBLE....and then the School gives the kids almost “free” tuition!!! SWEET DEAL! The Frost’s are doing some TAX dodging manuevers.””

Seems like the IRS needs to look at both Mr Frost’s woodworking business tax returns and HIS FATHER’S tax returns.

How big a loophole is it in the charity laws that you can write off a “deduction” for a “donation” to a private school and then your grandkids get to go to the school for a rate that is almost tuition free???????

Calling the IRS!!! Calling the IRS!!!

Please- isn’t there a Freeper who works for the IRS?????


57 posted on 10/11/2007 6:49:03 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: kristinn
Now folks just remember...The left like to deal only in the emotions to make their point so the FACTS have nothing to do with it..We are just mean nasty Swift Boaters....
58 posted on 10/11/2007 6:49:09 AM PDT by blueyon (Loose lips sink ships.)
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To: Suzy Quzy
Mr, Frost’s parents give $40,000.00 a year to that private school...TAX DEDUCTIBLE....and then the School gives the kids almost “free” tuition!!! SWEET DEAL! The Frost’s are doing some TAX dodging manuevers.

If what they are doing is not illegal, then I have no problem. But pimping for taxpayer funded medical care on top of it is unconscionable.

59 posted on 10/11/2007 6:50:53 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Anyone under the age of 35 can be considered a legal abortion survivor)
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To: ClearCase_guy
"I see that “swift-boating” is now an officially accepted word meaning “Stating the truth about things the media is trying to hide from the public”."

Wikipedia ALERT!

;-)

60 posted on 10/11/2007 6:51:11 AM PDT by NordP (If illegal alien = "undocumented immigrant" then drug dealer = "unlicensed pharmacist")
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