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Look Again At The Frost Facts...And Don't Back Down
freeper research, Baltimore Sun, Others ^ | 10-11-07 | icwhatudo

Posted on 10/11/2007 11:19:24 AM PDT by icwhatudo

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To: icwhatudo

The Democrats tried to deceive the voters. (As usual...sigh!)

They tried to sell voters a SKUNK disguised as a “cute puppy dog.”

Their new SCHIP program was not the same child-centric program which Graeme Frost said helped him.

Bush was willing to increase funding by $5 billion for the SCHIP program which helped Graeme.

If Democrats wanted Bush to sign an act which helps kids, they should have given him an act which helps kids.

141 posted on 10/13/2007 12:23:10 PM PDT by syriacus (Gore deserves THE HORNSWOGGLE FLEECE PRIZE)
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To: JRochelle
"Black Ice" around Baltimore?

I know exactly when that accident happened! Lots of wrecks that night. Cars were pushed along the ice by the wind! Weird. And a very geographically limited phenomenon.

142 posted on 10/13/2007 2:17:23 PM PDT by Zerodown (Draft Petraeus. Let's win this one.)
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To: Age of Reason

Stainless steel is great, and if you get it with a lip, you can put wood inserts in it. Wood is porous, so you have to clean it well, but it’s easy to clean, sand down to a new surface, or replace, and you can afford some striking grain if you’re only going to use it for a few square feet. Make sure you use an edible oil to seal the wood, and clean the joints and steel underneath regularly. If you really like to cook, a lot of the new surfaces can’t take the heat, scratches or stains of active chefs.

143 posted on 10/13/2007 2:28:30 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("Of course, a fool, what with sheer fright and fine sentiments, is always safe.")
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To: Son House

I hate to pile on but I read earlier that the children weren’t belted. Anybody else see that?

144 posted on 10/13/2007 2:38:08 PM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: Albion Wilde

Good stainless steel should not rust.

That’s the whole point of stainless.

If I remember correctly, a magnet will not stick to good stainless.

If a magnet does stick to something that is supposed to be stainless, then it isn’t pure stainless, and it contains iron, which will rust.

The scratch part is interesting, but only if it makes the counter harder to clean, that is, only if the scratches are deep enough to hold dirt.

I see a kitchen as a factory—make food, leave, and turn off the light ASAP.

Providing the waterspots are not permanent, I see no harm in them.

Restaurants and ship galleys use stainless extensively—so I would think it must be very utilitarian.

145 posted on 10/13/2007 3:14:23 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Phantom Lord
In my previously life as a chef I would say yes. Commercial kitchens are virtually 100% SS. Cleaning is very easy. Infact you don't need any fancy cleaner, regardless of what SS appliance makers say. Plain old water with clorox in it is all you need.

Reminds me, I remember hearing that boiling water is good for cleaning off any fingerprints--not that I expect prints to be a problem (the few cabinets I have will have handles, which handles I suspect will not show fingerprints if the handles have no flat surfaces).

Now, there are some disadvantages unless they are purpose built. Just a straight sheet of stainless won't work. Cutting boards slide all over. What you have done is get cutting boards made to how you want them for where you want them and have SS 'pegs' welded to the countertop and holes drilled in the cutting boards to match them. They won't go anywhere.

The pegs would get in the way of wiping down the countertop, which would be a minor nusiance, but not tha bad. Maybe I could figure something better out, if not, then the pegs are a great idea; thanks for the tip.

Plus, if you really want to have fun, do from the countertops down stainless, get a tile floor, and have a couple drains put in the floor. Then you can clean the kitchen with a hose!

Oh--no cabinest under the counters for me.

And NO tile on the floor--I despise tile, not so much for the tile, but for the grout and seams between the tiles, which is miserable stuff.

I was thinking of sheet linoleum or vinyl in one big piece (I will instruct the architect to make the floor as square as possible, with no fancy moldings along the baseboard and door openings, to make cutting the sheet to fit easier.

Having no cabinets under the counters makes maintenence easier (especially of the plumbing, which I plan to be visible), and when something spills, little chance it might get under the cabinets where it can't be got at.

As for a drain in the floor and hosing everything down--that would be wonderful.

ACtually, it would be great if I could go at my bathrooms with a steam cleaner.

(believe it or not, except for ultilitarian rooms like baths and kitchens, the house I intend to build will be a repro of an 18th century design).

146 posted on 10/13/2007 3:34:51 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason

My stainless cabinets rusted at the inner corners of the door openings where some other soldering compound had been used to seal the joints. The water spots were probably due to the smooth surface, whereas some people order the matte surface. Any steel surface will show scratches.

You seem to have your heart set on them, so just discount everything I’ve said about water spots and an unpleasant sound and the other poster said about fingerprints, because what do we know?

147 posted on 10/13/2007 3:35:01 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (America: “the most benign hegemon in history.”—Mark Steyn)
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To: Albion Wilde
You seem to have your heart set on them, so just discount everything I’ve said about water spots and an unpleasant sound and the other poster said about fingerprints, because what do we know?

It's not that I'm discounting them, it's just that water spots, fingerprints, and sound are not important to me.

Rust is another matter, and I intend to remember your info about the sealed joints rusting--that's extremely valuable information for me to question the manufacturer about.

148 posted on 10/13/2007 3:50:45 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: AppyPappy
I am by no means a CPA, but I am a businessman...

My general understanding about the current tax code is that if you receive, income, revenue, or money from whatever source, there is a very strong potential that with a few exceptions, that money is subject to taxation. It could be taxed as income, taxed as a gift if it meets the criteria, or taxed under an array other taxable attachments that are built into the current tax code. If you are really playing it straight under the code, and someone “gives you money” or pays bills for you, like grandparents paying for children’s tuition for private schools, etc... without the anticipation of being repaid, I think you might have to call that income, at worst, a gift at best.... I believe that you have a taxable event, especially if its a large amount of money provided to you over an extended period of time...

So, with that said, we need a good CPA to inform us as to how the amount of money being paid by anyone, for which the Frosts experience benefit for example in tuition offset or payment on behalf of the Frosts, is handled under the tax code...

After all, if they are receiving tens of thousands of dollars each year in tuition assistance from let’s say grandparents, is that money received each year required to be(1) included in their tax filings as additional income, (2) added to their income considered in their qualification requirements under the program?

Look I don’t want any ill will to come to these nice people, all I want is the truth to prevail in this process. If they are cutting corners anywhere, especially since they have chosen voluntarily to enter the public discourse using “their situation" to make a statement about policy that effects all of us, they are not exempt from being held accountable if it is found they should be...

Is there a CPA that can answer these questions for us?

149 posted on 10/13/2007 4:45:11 PM PDT by SterlingSilver (If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... its a duck!)
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To: NonValueAdded

Concrete countertops ARE a DIY project, for someone willing to take the time. We’d considered doing them in our home here in MA, but since we’ve decided to sell next year, and move South, we’re going with quartz. Apparently concrete countertops are not as acceptable in the average Colonial here in the Northeast. But they can be done; I attended a seminar and demonstration given by Fu Tung Cheng at a Builder’s Trade Show in Worcester a few years ago. It’s not rocket science, and with some time and effort, a nice product can result, at MUCH less than $100/sq. ft.

150 posted on 10/14/2007 8:23:19 PM PDT by SuziQ
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151 posted on 10/14/2007 8:31:58 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Son House
Need to see an accident report to verify if the ‘black ice’ is even true.

An announcement from the Baltimore Law Firm of Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe reports that they are amending the Frost's accident report and intend to file a pro bono claim accusing the tree of reckless endangerment by growing too close to the road.

152 posted on 10/15/2007 6:59:08 PM PDT by RoadKingSE
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To: 70th Division

The Frost children attend the school on scholarships. The parents pay $500 per year for their education.

153 posted on 10/17/2007 8:36:37 AM PDT by Waitin4Godot2
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To: Phantom Lord

I know next to nothing about the Frosts, but if they had a business and minimally insured cars, they were playing with fire. An auto accident with another party can mean a lawyer plundering all your business goods, unless you have the business structured properly. They owed it to themselves to overinsure the cars, but it sounds like their other decisions weren’t so great either. OK, but don’t make me or other taxpayers pay for your poor decisions.

154 posted on 10/17/2007 2:23:56 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

I wonder if there is any connection to the Frost family in Miami (quite liberal, I believe) that has donated lots of money to the University of Miami?

155 posted on 10/17/2007 3:24:22 PM PDT by Sigurdrifta
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To: icwhatudo; KarlInOhio; jimrob; Buckhead
Does Free Republic have an annual Buckhead trophy? If it does, then you are in the lead for the 2007 one.

If not...... there *should* be!

156 posted on 10/17/2007 3:30:39 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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157 posted on 10/18/2007 1:21:21 AM PDT by zip (((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))))
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To: SterlingSilver
Late to this thread. I am a CPA, no longer in public practice, and never a tax accountant. So take this a whatever value you want.

But as I understand it, the scholarships are not income, as long as the dollars are never received directly by the taxpayer. The private school tuition is not deductible (at least for Federal taxes, don’t know about MD). And if the school charges you a rate different than what others pay, that is not income to you.

Even if the grandparents are paying the full tuition, I don’t believe that you have a taxable event for the parents, as long as the payment was made to the school and not to the parents.

158 posted on 10/25/2007 12:59:35 PM PDT by MTinMN
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