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Unprecedented Muslim call for peace with Christians
Yahoo News ^ | October 11, 2007 | Peter Graff

Posted on 10/11/2007 2:10:34 PM PDT by america4vr

LONDON (Reuters) - More than 130 Muslim scholars from around the globe called on Thursday for peace and understanding between Islam and Christianity, saying "the very survival of the world itself is perhaps at stake."

In an unprecedented letter to Pope Benedict and other Christian leaders, 138 Muslim scholars said finding common ground between the world's biggest faiths was not simply a matter for polite dialogue between religious leaders.

"If Muslims and Christians are not at peace, the world cannot be at peace. With the terrible weaponry of the modern world; with Muslims and Christians intertwined everywhere as never before, no side can unilaterally win a conflict between more than half of the world's inhabitants," the scholars wrote.

"Our common future is at stake. The very survival of the world itself is perhaps at stake," they wrote, adding that Islam and Christianity already agreed that love of God and neighbor were the two most important commandments of their faiths.

Relations between Muslims and Christians have been strained as al Qaeda has struck around the world and as the United States and other Western countries intervened in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Such a joint letter is unprecedented in Islam, which has no central authority that speaks on behalf of all worshippers.

The list of signatories includes senior figures throughout the Middle East, Asia, Africa, Europe and North America. They represent Sunni, Shi'ite and Sufi schools of Islam.

Among them were the grand muftis of Egypt, Palestine, Oman, Jordan, Syria, Bosnia and Russia and many imams and scholars. War-torn Iraq was represented by both Shi'ites and Sunnis.

Mustafa Cagrici, the mufti who prayed with Benedict in Istanbul's Blue Mosque last year, was also on the list, as was the popular Egyptian television preacher Amr Khaled.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: christianity; hudna; islam; peace; taquiyya
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It's never too late.What about Zionism/Judaism?
1 posted on 10/11/2007 2:10:52 PM PDT by america4vr
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To: america4vr

Are they surrendering?


2 posted on 10/11/2007 2:13:04 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: america4vr
...no side can unilaterally win a conflict between more than half of the world's inhabitants...

I'm willing to give it a try.

3 posted on 10/11/2007 2:15:01 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: roses of sharon

Cute. Very, very cute. :-)


4 posted on 10/11/2007 2:15:03 PM PDT by america4vr
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To: america4vr

Reign in the terrorist they created and only then should this be taken seriously.


5 posted on 10/11/2007 2:15:13 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: america4vr

Here’s the best way for Muslims to make peace.

MASTERMIND OF FIRST TWIN TOWERS ATTACK CLAIMS HE HAS CONVERTED TO CHRISTIANITY

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1909824/posts
Drudge Report ^ | October 11, 2007 | Drudge Flash

Posted on 10/11/2007 10:42:34 AM PDT by Squidpup


6 posted on 10/11/2007 2:17:26 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq ó via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: america4vr

The intended alliance would be made to jointly get rid of the Jews..ain’t going to work.


7 posted on 10/11/2007 2:18:17 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: america4vr
Start publicly executing your flaming radicals instead of your women, then we’ll talk.
8 posted on 10/11/2007 2:18:19 PM PDT by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: All

Have I got an idea for them! If they stopped killing us I’m almost certain that would pave the way to peace. Heck, even Israel would go for that.


9 posted on 10/11/2007 2:19:35 PM PDT by KarinG1 (Opinions expressed in this post are my own and do not necessarily represent those of sane people.)
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To: america4vr

Allow me to translate: submit or we’ll kill you.


10 posted on 10/11/2007 2:20:14 PM PDT by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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To: roses of sharon

We must remember their culture -

negotiate when you’re weak to allow time to build up your strength,

attack when you are strong - or when your enemy appears weak (such as asking for “diplomacy”).


11 posted on 10/11/2007 2:20:17 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: america4vr

Peace requires full reciprocity. It also must include all religions and civilizations.


12 posted on 10/11/2007 2:23:28 PM PDT by sourcery (Referring a "social conservative" to the Ninth Amendment is like showing the Cross to Dracula.)
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To: All
Whatever their intent, I cannot take seriously any peace overture from a religion that teaches it acceptable to deceive people not belonging to their religion as a means for pursuing their ultimate objective to utterly defeat their religious opponents. If they truly seek peace they must abandon their religion that teaches to deceive first, then talk of peace.
13 posted on 10/11/2007 2:23:51 PM PDT by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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To: tobyhill
What do you want them to do, stand in front of a moving freight train of terrorists?

These people are brave for speaking out. They will probably have death threats against them before nightfall.

14 posted on 10/11/2007 2:24:05 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: america4vr
Central to the islamic cult is the destuction of anything non islamic. The word 'peace', for example, means one thing in the west and another to the cult of the moon god. This is, imho, a way for them to justify their continued aggression with the argument of "well, we tried to make friends."
Newsflash, The islamic cult started this with 9/11 they are losing their a$$ in the middle east so now they want to kiss and make up. I don't think this is going to happen.
15 posted on 10/11/2007 2:24:56 PM PDT by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: america4vr
"the very survival of the world itself is perhaps at stake."

No sh!t Sherlock.

This deserves a "Mr. Obvious Award".

16 posted on 10/11/2007 2:25:55 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: america4vr

Current teaching of the Quran expressly allows for subterfuge, lying, and deception against the enemies of Islam.

I do not believe a word of this. Let them speak to the murderous horde within their own religion first. Then come talk to me.


17 posted on 10/11/2007 2:27:37 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: america4vr

Current teaching of the Quran expressly allows for subterfuge, lying, and deception against the enemies of Islam.

I do not believe a word of this. Let them speak to and change the murderous horde within their own religion first. Then come talk to me.


18 posted on 10/11/2007 2:28:04 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: america4vr
138 Muslim scholars said finding common ground between the world's biggest faiths

138 Dead Men Walking

19 posted on 10/11/2007 2:28:49 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: america4vr

According to the Koran, Peace = Moe-Ham-Headism, War = anything NOT Moe-Ham- Headism. I read this and say “Oh, Oh.” More dhimmie BS.


20 posted on 10/11/2007 2:29:46 PM PDT by Safetgiver (So simple, even a Muslim can do it.)
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To: Cementjungle

A few nukes would cripple their entire Islamic nations’ military....


21 posted on 10/11/2007 2:30:19 PM PDT by thebaron512
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To: america4vr

Surrender or die with us. Seems clear to me?


22 posted on 10/11/2007 2:30:35 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Donít trust anyone who canít take a joke. [Congressman BillyBob])
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To: america4vr

There are always exceptions. They tagged the Jews as “it”.

Trust has to be earned.


23 posted on 10/11/2007 2:30:35 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: america4vr

Unprecedented? Hardly. This is the way they operate. Their call for peace is actually a call for Christians to capitulate to Muslims.

Muslims are liars. It’s in their book.


24 posted on 10/11/2007 2:31:30 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: txzman

BTTT


25 posted on 10/11/2007 2:32:04 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: Earthdweller
If we are to believe that the “moderate” Muslim outnumber the terrorist by the wide margin that’s been advertised then it shouldn’t be a problem for them but as of yet they have refused to do so. Everything to a Muslim is to lie and deceive to get their way and it’s long past time they prove they want peace through their physical actions and not empty words.
27 posted on 10/11/2007 2:33:23 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: america4vr

The Koran instructs Muslims to establish truces with infidels in order to strengthen their resources and prepare for a better fight.

There is no truce.

Not until the radical militants are eliminated and sent to their virgins.


28 posted on 10/11/2007 2:34:03 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Earthdweller
Well said. These people are unable to even reign in those within their own mosque. Lunatic fringe doesn't begin to describe those dead-set (pun intended) against peace.
29 posted on 10/11/2007 2:34:28 PM PDT by america4vr
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To: oneamericanvoice
They who?..every culture and religion has it's nutcases.

They are not asking to come over to your house for tea..they are saying that they don't agree with the extremists.

30 posted on 10/11/2007 2:34:41 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-
Benedict further sayeth: Islam is a religion of Pieces
31 posted on 10/11/2007 2:36:07 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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32 posted on 10/11/2007 2:36:52 PM PDT by -=SoylentSquirrel=-
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-

lol


33 posted on 10/11/2007 2:37:49 PM PDT by america4vr
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To: tobyhill
Ask yourself why the moderate Islamic world did not stand up with AQ in large numbers while they had the chance to bring about a world caliphate....

They "voted" against the extremists with their absence. AQ is finished.

34 posted on 10/11/2007 2:38:12 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: america4vr
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35 posted on 10/11/2007 2:39:33 PM PDT by -=SoylentSquirrel=-
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To: america4vr
In an unprecedented letter to Pope Benedict and other Christian leaders,

They should've instead sent that letter to the lunatic leaders of Islam.

36 posted on 10/11/2007 2:41:46 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo ("Hidin' in a corner ...of New York City, lookin' down a .44 in West Virginy")
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To: roses of sharon
Are they surrendering?

They're either telling us to surrender or they're lying again.

37 posted on 10/11/2007 2:43:58 PM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: america4vr
Relations between Muslims and Christians have been strained as al Qaeda has struck around the world and as the United States and other Western countries intervened in Iraq and Afghanistan

Why is it only since we [the USA] FINALLY "intervened" in Afghanistan and Iraq do these 130 purveyors of doom, worry about the relations between Muslims and Christians??

38 posted on 10/11/2007 2:45:03 PM PDT by PISANO
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To: Earthdweller
If they are slaughtered like goats by their own, we will know they were speaking the truth. If they don't have a fatwah laid on their fuzzy fannies, and they aren't dangling fron a wrecker boom by the end of the month, we will know they were lying, and can target them with a clear heart.

Sucks to be them...

39 posted on 10/11/2007 2:45:17 PM PDT by jonascord (Hurray! for the Bonny Blue Flag that bears the Single Star!)
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To: Earthdweller

“They who?” The Muslims of course. Duh.

You should have read the post that I was responding to first.

“...every culture and reliegion has it’s nutcases.”
I don’t do moral and cultural relativity. I think the Muslims have the nutcase market cornered. We probably disagree.

“They are not asking to come over to your house for tea..they are saying that they don’t agree with the extremists.”

I know perfectly well what they are saying. But words are meaningless without actions. It is also very telling that they exclude the Jews.

Trust has to be earned.


40 posted on 10/11/2007 2:51:31 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Earthdweller

See post 28 from Ghost of Phillip Marlowe:
“The Koran instructs Muslims to establish truces with infidels in order to strengthen their resources and prepare for a better fight.”

Very well put.


41 posted on 10/11/2007 2:56:22 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: america4vr
Taqqiyah translation: Please just hold off long enough for our freedom fighters to get enough nukes to blow Israel and the US off your maps (Israel isn't on ours already, anyway). Then the Mahdi and Caliphate will be assured for the ages!

HF

42 posted on 10/11/2007 2:56:29 PM PDT by holden
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To: america4vr

Was was it that Dick Cheny said to Pat Leahy? THe phrase seems even more appropriate here.


43 posted on 10/11/2007 2:58:33 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: richardtavor

No, there is no “intended alliance.”

“Peace” to a Muslim means submission to the Will of Allah, ie, “Islam.”

Until that happens, you’ll get nothing but trouble from them.


44 posted on 10/11/2007 2:59:24 PM PDT by Brakeman (Subsidies, while expensive for the donor, are ruinous for the recipient.)
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To: america4vr

It is a start, at least they started clean up their “klan” like we did in the 30’s.

Better a start than no start.


45 posted on 10/11/2007 3:01:13 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands..)
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To: america4vr
“With the terrible weaponry of the modern world,"

It must be starting to dawn on them that muslims are holding the stinky end of the stick but they are preaching to the choir.

Their time would be better spent shutting down the hate talk, terrorist indoctrination, terrorism and killing spewing from their own side of the divide.

I can't get the link to work but found the same article here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/12/nmuslim112.xml

46 posted on 10/11/2007 3:01:21 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: BOBTHENAILER; Earthdweller

Jeez I can’t believe you guys are getting fooled by this.

This is a call to accept Islam, and a threat of war if we refuse.


47 posted on 10/11/2007 3:01:54 PM PDT by Brakeman (Subsidies, while expensive for the donor, are ruinous for the recipient.)
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To: Earthdweller
They will probably have death threats against them before nightfall.

You're proving the point of all these others who say this scholarly venture isn't going anywhere. Maybe those scholars already knew all that. They should, after all, if they're any kind of scholar, shouldn't they?

Let's keep score and see how many of them get dead or severely beaten within 60 days. If zero, I think we have the same answer as Brave Barry Hussein the Christian's conversion from Islam being a grave danger to him.

NOT!

HF

48 posted on 10/11/2007 3:02:01 PM PDT by holden
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To: america4vr

I was taught to behave the way I wanted to be treated. That is all I have to say on this subject.


49 posted on 10/11/2007 3:02:41 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Cementjungle

They sound rather desperate at having wakened the sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve, a lesson they should have learned from Japan.


50 posted on 10/11/2007 3:02:46 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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