Unprecedented Muslim call for peace with Christians

Yahoo News ^ | October 11, 2007 | Peter Graff

[america4vr]

LONDON (Reuters) - More than 130 Muslim scholars from around the globe called on Thursday for peace and understanding between Islam and Christianity, saying "the very survival of the world itself is perhaps at stake."

In an unprecedented letter to Pope Benedict and other Christian leaders, 138 Muslim scholars said finding common ground between the world's biggest faiths was not simply a matter for polite dialogue between religious leaders.

"If Muslims and Christians are not at peace, the world cannot be at peace. With the terrible weaponry of the modern world; with Muslims and Christians intertwined everywhere as never before, no side can unilaterally win a conflict between more than half of the world's inhabitants," the scholars wrote.

"Our common future is at stake. The very survival of the world itself is perhaps at stake," they wrote, adding that Islam and Christianity already agreed that love of God and neighbor were the two most important commandments of their faiths.

Relations between Muslims and Christians have been strained as al Qaeda has struck around the world and as the United States and other Western countries intervened in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Such a joint letter is unprecedented in Islam, which has no central authority that speaks on behalf of all worshippers.

The list of signatories includes senior figures throughout the Middle East, Asia, Africa, Europe and North America. They represent Sunni, Shi'ite and Sufi schools of Islam.

Among them were the grand muftis of Egypt, Palestine, Oman, Jordan, Syria, Bosnia and Russia and many imams and scholars. War-torn Iraq was represented by both Shi'ites and Sunnis.

Mustafa Cagrici, the mufti who prayed with Benedict in Istanbul's Blue Mosque last year, was also on the list, as was the popular Egyptian television preacher Amr Khaled.

[america4vr]

It's never too late.What about Zionism/Judaism?

[roses of sharon]

Are they surrendering?

[Cementjungle]

...no side can unilaterally win a conflict between more than half of the world's inhabitants...

I'm willing to give it a try.

[america4vr]

Cute. Very, very cute. :-)

[tobyhill]

Reign in the terrorist they created and only then should this be taken seriously.

[Kevmo]

Here’s the best way for Muslims to make peace.

MASTERMIND OF FIRST TWIN TOWERS ATTACK CLAIMS HE HAS CONVERTED TO CHRISTIANITY

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Posted on 10/11/2007 10:42:34 AM PDT by Squidpup

[richardtavor]

The intended alliance would be made to jointly get rid of the Jews..ain’t going to work.

[xcamel]

Start publicly executing your flaming radicals instead of your women, then we’ll talk.

[KarinG1]

Have I got an idea for them! If they stopped killing us I’m almost certain that would pave the way to peace. Heck, even Israel would go for that.

[ECM]

Allow me to translate: submit or we’ll kill you.

[MrB]

We must remember their culture -

negotiate when you’re weak to allow time to build up your strength,

attack when you are strong - or when your enemy appears weak (such as asking for “diplomacy”).

[sourcery]

Peace requires full reciprocity. It also must include all religions and civilizations.

[backtothestreets]

Whatever their intent, I cannot take seriously any peace overture from a religion that teaches it acceptable to deceive people not belonging to their religion as a means for pursuing their ultimate objective to utterly defeat their religious opponents. If they truly seek peace they must abandon their religion that teaches to deceive first, then talk of peace.

[Earthdweller]

What do you want them to do, stand in front of a moving freight train of terrorists?

These people are brave for speaking out. They will probably have death threats against them before nightfall.

[monkeycard]

Central to the islamic cult is the destuction of anything non islamic. The word 'peace', for example, means one thing in the west and another to the cult of the moon god. This is, imho, a way for them to justify their continued aggression with the argument of "well, we tried to make friends."
Newsflash, The islamic cult started this with 9/11 they are losing their a$$ in the middle east so now they want to kiss and make up. I don't think this is going to happen.

[BOBTHENAILER]

"the very survival of the world itself is perhaps at stake."

No sh!t Sherlock.

This deserves a "Mr. Obvious Award".

[txzman]

Current teaching of the Quran expressly allows for subterfuge, lying, and deception against the enemies of Islam.

I do not believe a word of this. Let them speak to the murderous horde within their own religion first. Then come talk to me.

[txzman]

Current teaching of the Quran expressly allows for subterfuge, lying, and deception against the enemies of Islam.

I do not believe a word of this. Let them speak to and change the murderous horde within their own religion first. Then come talk to me.

[BOBTHENAILER]

138 Muslim scholars said finding common ground between the world's biggest faiths

138 Dead Men Walking

[Safetgiver]

According to the Koran, Peace = Moe-Ham-Headism, War = anything NOT Moe-Ham- Headism. I read this and say “Oh, Oh.” More dhimmie BS.

[thebaron512]

A few nukes would cripple their entire Islamic nations’ military....

[Cyber Liberty]

Surrender or die with us. Seems clear to me?

[oneamericanvoice]

There are always exceptions. They tagged the Jews as “it”.

Trust has to be earned.

[savedbygrace]

Unprecedented? Hardly. This is the way they operate. Their call for peace is actually a call for Christians to capitulate to Muslims.

Muslims are liars. It’s in their book.

[Unicorn]

BTTT

[tobyhill]

If we are to believe that the “moderate” Muslim outnumber the terrorist by the wide margin that’s been advertised then it shouldn’t be a problem for them but as of yet they have refused to do so. Everything to a Muslim is to lie and deceive to get their way and it’s long past time they prove they want peace through their physical actions and not empty words.

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

The Koran instructs Muslims to establish truces with infidels in order to strengthen their resources and prepare for a better fight.

There is no truce.

Not until the radical militants are eliminated and sent to their virgins.

[america4vr]

Well said. These people are unable to even reign in those within their own mosque. Lunatic fringe doesn't begin to describe those dead-set (pun intended) against peace.

[Earthdweller]

They who?..every culture and religion has it's nutcases.

They are not asking to come over to your house for tea..they are saying that they don't agree with the extremists.

[BOBTHENAILER]

Benedict further sayeth: Islam is a religion of Pieces

[-=SoylentSquirrel=-]

[america4vr]

lol

[Earthdweller]

Ask yourself why the moderate Islamic world did not stand up with AQ in large numbers while they had the chance to bring about a world caliphate....

They "voted" against the extremists with their absence. AQ is finished.

[-=SoylentSquirrel=-]

[Mr. Mojo]

In an unprecedented letter to Pope Benedict and other Christian leaders,

They should've instead sent that letter to the lunatic leaders of Islam.

[airborne]

Are they surrendering?

They're either telling us to surrender or they're lying again.

[PISANO]

Relations between Muslims and Christians have been strained as al Qaeda has struck around the world and as the United States and other Western countries intervened in Iraq and Afghanistan

Why is it only since we [the USA] FINALLY "intervened" in Afghanistan and Iraq do these 130 purveyors of doom, worry about the relations between Muslims and Christians??

[jonascord]

If they are slaughtered like goats by their own, we will know they were speaking the truth. If they don't have a fatwah laid on their fuzzy fannies, and they aren't dangling fron a wrecker boom by the end of the month, we will know they were lying, and can target them with a clear heart.

Sucks to be them...

[oneamericanvoice]

“They who?” The Muslims of course. Duh.

You should have read the post that I was responding to first.

“...every culture and reliegion has it’s nutcases.”
I don’t do moral and cultural relativity. I think the Muslims have the nutcase market cornered. We probably disagree.

“They are not asking to come over to your house for tea..they are saying that they don’t agree with the extremists.”

I know perfectly well what they are saying. But words are meaningless without actions. It is also very telling that they exclude the Jews.

Trust has to be earned.

[oneamericanvoice]

See post 28 from Ghost of Phillip Marlowe:
“The Koran instructs Muslims to establish truces with infidels in order to strengthen their resources and prepare for a better fight.”

Very well put.

[holden]

Taqqiyah translation: Please just hold off long enough for our freedom fighters to get enough nukes to blow Israel and the US off your maps (Israel isn't on ours already, anyway). Then the Mahdi and Caliphate will be assured for the ages!

HF

[DogBarkTree]

Was was it that Dick Cheny said to Pat Leahy? THe phrase seems even more appropriate here.

[Brakeman]

No, there is no “intended alliance.”

“Peace” to a Muslim means submission to the Will of Allah, ie, “Islam.”

Until that happens, you’ll get nothing but trouble from them.

[hadaclueonce]

It is a start, at least they started clean up their “klan” like we did in the 30’s.

Better a start than no start.

[Iron Munro]

“With the terrible weaponry of the modern world,"

It must be starting to dawn on them that muslims are holding the stinky end of the stick but they are preaching to the choir.

Their time would be better spent shutting down the hate talk, terrorist indoctrination, terrorism and killing spewing from their own side of the divide.

I can't get the link to work but found the same article here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/12/nmuslim112.xml

[Brakeman]

Jeez I can’t believe you guys are getting fooled by this.

This is a call to accept Islam, and a threat of war if we refuse.

[holden]

They will probably have death threats against them before nightfall.

You're proving the point of all these others who say this scholarly venture isn't going anywhere. Maybe those scholars already knew all that. They should, after all, if they're any kind of scholar, shouldn't they?

Let's keep score and see how many of them get dead or severely beaten within 60 days. If zero, I think we have the same answer as Brave Barry Hussein the Christian's conversion from Islam being a grave danger to him.

NOT!

HF

[GOP Poet]

I was taught to behave the way I wanted to be treated. That is all I have to say on this subject.

[MissAmericanPie]

They sound rather desperate at having wakened the sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve, a lesson they should have learned from Japan.