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Policeman threatens to arrest boy for toy gun - UK
The Daily Telegraph ^ | 10/09/2007

Posted on 10/11/2007 3:22:09 PM PDT by Daniel Bliss

A policeman was criticised yesterday after he ordered an eight-year-old boy to smash up his toy gun – because it was an "imitation firearm".

The officer confronted Samuel England, of Pinehurst, Swindon, Wilts, as he played with the black and orange plastic toy outside his home. He told the boy to destroy the "weapon" or he would be arrested.

Samuel's stepfather, John Standen, 34, came to his aid but was warned it was an offence to have an imitation firearm in public.

The officer only left when Mr Standen had snapped the toy in half – leaving Samuel in tears. But he returned five minutes later to warn his stepsister Sophie, six, about riding her battery-powered Barbie car on the pavement.

Samuel's mother, Sarah, 30, said: "Samuel was so scared that he would be taken away. I had to explain to him that they can't do that."

Wiltshire Constabulary confirmed the incident took place, but refused to name the officer involved.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: banglist; toyguns
Since when was a plastic kid's toy an "imitation firearm" or a "weapon"?

It seems that the copper gets a rush when he enforces Britain's increasingly authoritarian gun laws on little kids. No surprises there then...

1 posted on 10/11/2007 3:22:16 PM PDT by Daniel Bliss
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To: Daniel Bliss

Stuff out of Britain lately is beyond parody.


2 posted on 10/11/2007 3:25:48 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Daniel Bliss

Wow, Gestapo Cops in Britain too.....big surprise.


3 posted on 10/11/2007 3:25:54 PM PDT by Alright_on_the_LeftCoast
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To: Daniel Bliss
Samuel's mother, Sarah, 30, said: "Samuel was so scared that he would be taken away. I had to explain to him that they can't do that."

What makes you think they can't, Sarah?

4 posted on 10/11/2007 3:27:46 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("There is no such thing as death for a Christian who believes in the Resurrection." ~ Fr. Ho Lung)
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To: Daniel Bliss

Will the UK be renamed soon? It’s getting more and more like Oceania.


5 posted on 10/11/2007 3:28:29 PM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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To: Daniel Bliss

Scraping the bottom of the barrel for police officers in the UK. Pathetic.


6 posted on 10/11/2007 3:29:35 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Daniel Bliss

It’s now also illegal to display an imitation firearm in public in Minneapolis.


7 posted on 10/11/2007 3:29:38 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Tracking The Flyin' Imams Since 11/20/06)
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To: Daniel Bliss

Barney Fife in Britain?................


8 posted on 10/11/2007 3:33:53 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: Argus
Stuff out of Britain lately is beyond parody.

And if you read the UK boards they say typically British understated stuff about these absurd episodes, like "One has to contemplate whether this is the proper course of action".

9 posted on 10/11/2007 3:35:38 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Red Badger

See my post #7


10 posted on 10/11/2007 3:35:47 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Tracking The Flyin' Imams Since 11/20/06)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

GO AHEAD, KID, MAKE MY DAY............

11 posted on 10/11/2007 3:40:56 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: Alright_on_the_LeftCoast

Wait until we get President Hillary with 65 Orwellian Senators.


12 posted on 10/11/2007 3:42:19 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Daniel Bliss
You have to expect this sort of thing to happen when you fail to properly "de-Nazify" after WWII.

The Brits actually let these people vote ~ and Lord forbid that you raise a hand in objection to a sadomasochistic sexual deviant over there.

13 posted on 10/11/2007 3:42:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Daniel Bliss

“Samuel’s mother, Sarah, 30, said: “Samuel was so scared that he would be taken away. I had to explain to him that they can’t do that.”

What allows her to think that?


14 posted on 10/11/2007 3:45:34 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Daniel Bliss

Has anyone tried to look for a toy gun for their kids lately at your local stores? I don’t mean the nerf kind that shoots color foam bullets or the water gun or the sci-fi one with all the flashing light and noise. I mean the M16, M4 machine gun look a like with the required orange painted tip. Our church sponsors a Halloween costume contest on a yearly basis, and last year, my 6 yrs. old son wanted to dress up as a soldier. I went to the local army surplus store and got him a nice camouflaged uniform. Painted his face and all. He was really stoked when I said, “Special Force.” Problem was, we went all over town and couldn’t find him a toy gun that looked like the real deal. He still won first place. We live in a community where there’s an Air Force Base as well as a Navy Base and a Coast Guard station with in a few miles of each other, and the majority of parishioners are military families. My son wasn’t the only dressed up soldier that night without a gun. This year, we’re ready as I bought one from the internet.


15 posted on 10/11/2007 3:49:53 PM PDT by dit_xi
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To: muawiyah

“when you fail to properly “de-Nazify” after WWII”

They should have started with many of the Royalty.


16 posted on 10/11/2007 3:53:39 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We have become an oligarchy not a Republic.)
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To: dit_xi
The workshop in my basement does wonder for my two boys. Maybe I should consider selling them on the internet.

I've made M16s, M79s, 50cal Brownings, bazookas, LAWs, and even a mortar.

17 posted on 10/11/2007 3:54:36 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Daniel Bliss
Water pistol causes airport scare

A child's pink plastic water pistol caused an airport security scare.

The toy had to be registered as a firearm before the Devon girl and her family could board their holiday flight home from South Africa.

18 posted on 10/11/2007 3:55:34 PM PDT by Sender (Can I just post until I need glasses?)
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To: Northern Yankee

War on boys ping


19 posted on 10/11/2007 3:57:29 PM PDT by Shimmer (Celebrate Southerness Y'all)
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To: Old Professer
What allows her to think that?

Surprised the cop didn't threaten to arrest her for that while he was busy enforcing the rest of the rules.

20 posted on 10/11/2007 4:01:07 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: A Strict Constructionist

Think the IRA did that ~ caught up with some of ‘em anyway.


21 posted on 10/11/2007 4:02:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Daniel Bliss

I consider the incident to be good training for the miserable future he faces under the thumb of EU bureaucrats.


22 posted on 10/11/2007 4:06:51 PM PDT by AIM-54
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To: Daniel Bliss
...this so-called "policeman/boobie", should be charged w/ harassment....a complete moron/twit
23 posted on 10/11/2007 4:37:22 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, Fred, Run. :^)
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To: Daniel Bliss
I had to explain to him that they can't do that.

Really? What does she think "arrested" means?

24 posted on 10/11/2007 5:03:04 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Daniel Bliss
This banning toy gun thing is coming liberal AMERICAN enclaves soon.

In fact, ABC news ran a story tonight about a supposed Columbine-like school shooting being thwarted by authorities in philly ("The City of Brothers...").

They showed the ambulance-chasing/political media whores standing behind the youth suspect's "arsenal". Mentioned briefly, was the FACT that "most" of the guns were bb guns, and ONE (count them, ONE) gun was a 9mm "assault weapon" (a POS Highpoint like the one used at Columbine, and the REASON that so many unfired 9mm rounds were found at Columbine - due to obvious malfunctions/failures-to-fire. The perps there discovered that a shotgun is most effective and destructive.). Since the breathless reporter in the philly case only named ONE ACTUAL firearm (the 9mm carbine), it leads me to believe that ALL of the other firearms were BB GUNS/TOY GUNS. What these lying, obfuscating, gun-grabbing liberals won't try and do to push unconstitutional and nonsensical gun control!

25 posted on 10/11/2007 5:03:25 PM PDT by DocH (RINO-rudy for BRONX Dog Catcher 2008!!!)
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To: Daniel Bliss
Since when was a plastic kid's toy an "imitation firearm" or a "weapon"?

About a week ago in Minnesota....

26 posted on 10/11/2007 5:10:04 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (I get enough exercise just pushing my luck)
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To: Daniel Bliss
Samuel's stepfather, John Standen, 34, came to his aid but was warned it was an offence to have an imitation firearm in public.

It SHOULD be against the law to have IMITATION POLICE OFFICERS in public.

After all, even REAL ones with guns, like we have in the US, are essentially WORTHLESS when it comes to protecting individuals in a timely manner when the sh*t hits the fan.

Not their fault, just the nature of the beast.

For instance, I read that Cho murdered the large number of students AND himself at VA Tech in SECONDS.

Some cops showed up in MINUTES.

TOO DAMN LATE to save anyone.

27 posted on 10/11/2007 5:12:09 PM PDT by DocH (RINO-rudy for BRONX Dog Catcher 2008!!!)
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To: Daniel Bliss

Sad how far “Great” (sic) Britain has sunk.

“Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waves. Britons never ever shall be slaves.”

Well, they can retire that tune.


28 posted on 10/11/2007 5:33:25 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: stinkerpot65

Now would be a really good time for everyone to buy firearms. Do it now while you can, and don’t forget the ammo.


29 posted on 10/11/2007 5:42:07 PM PDT by alarm rider (Why should I not vote my conscience?)
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To: DocH

Don’t worry they are developing a time machine that will allow them to fix any problem post haste./s


30 posted on 10/11/2007 7:58:31 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We have become an oligarchy not a Republic.)
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To: Daniel Bliss

From British Lion to British kitty?

W


31 posted on 10/11/2007 9:04:32 PM PDT by WLR (Armed Staff on School Campus. Build the Fence, Iran delenda est)
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To: dit_xi

yeah, can’t find an M16, M1, M4, or other recent US weapons, but you can find AK47s, MP5s, UZIs, etc.
i do like our selection around here tho. local walmart is stocked to the gills with 1894 lever actions, colt peacemakers and even some coach guns.


32 posted on 10/12/2007 7:37:02 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders- don't re-elect them!)
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To: GingisK

Do they make noise or shoot some cork/plastic bullets?


33 posted on 10/12/2007 8:58:46 AM PDT by dit_xi
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To: Old Professer

*****“Samuel’s mother, Sarah, 30, said: “Samuel was so scared that he would be taken away. I had to explain to him that they can’t do that.”

What allows her to think that?*****

Well, unless our protofascist government has recently changed the law, then the kid was still below the age of criminal responsibility. So he can’t be arrested or charged with a crime.


34 posted on 10/12/2007 2:53:11 PM PDT by Daniel Bliss
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To: Daniel Bliss
"Policeman threatens to arrest boy for toy gun - UK"

Jealousy can bring out the worst in a bloke...

35 posted on 10/12/2007 2:55:45 PM PDT by tracer
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To: wastedyears
*****Will the UK be renamed soon? It’s getting more and more like Oceania.*****

It certainly is.

Any Brits reading this should check out my homepage for useful information about surviving in a Police State.

36 posted on 10/12/2007 2:58:45 PM PDT by Daniel Bliss
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To: steve86
*****Stuff out of Britain lately is beyond parody.

And if you read the UK boards they say typically British understated stuff about these absurd episodes, like "One has to contemplate whether this is the proper course of action".*****

Oh, I don't know, the chaps at Free Britannia seem to have had the right reaction to this incident.

See for yourself: Policeman threatens to arrest 8 y/o boy for toy gun

37 posted on 10/12/2007 3:08:22 PM PDT by Daniel Bliss
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To: AIM-54
The EU will never force its Constitution on the British people, sir.

There are too many British patriots, like myself, who will resist...

38 posted on 10/12/2007 3:13:30 PM PDT by Daniel Bliss
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To: Sender
“The toy had to be registered as a firearm before the Devon girl and her family could board their holiday flight home from South Africa.”

Years ago ( pre TSA) my wife,young son(5yrs old) and I were leaving the airport at Lihue, Kauai. Our carry on was being run thru the xray scanner. The operator called out “I have a pistol.” I thought this should be interesting as I watched the security woke up and pull their fingers out of their noses. I then realized they were after our bags. They pulled the Flipper the Dolphin water pistol from our bags. It had a pistol grip that the operator picked up. We were advised it can’t go into the cabin but they could ship it to us. I guess they were afraid we could try and use Flipper to squirt them to Havana. Oh well it was tossed and my son got a better replacement when we got home.

39 posted on 10/12/2007 3:15:33 PM PDT by Polynikes (Hey. I got a question. How are you planning to get back down that hill?)
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To: skinkinthegrass
*****...this so-called "policeman/boobie", should be charged w/ harassment....a complete moron/twit*****

Quite right, sir.

If I'd been the child's parent I would have made the copper take the matter to Court, so that it would have been thrown out and he would have had his career ruined.

40 posted on 10/12/2007 3:16:55 PM PDT by Daniel Bliss
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To: Travis McGee
*****Sad how far “Great” (sic) Britain has sunk.

“Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waves. Britons never ever shall be slaves.”

Well, they can retire that tune.*****

Yes, regrettably, the British government is being run by leftist pantywastes at the moment.

But never fear, there are still plenty of true-blue Brits out there waiting for their chance.

41 posted on 10/12/2007 3:25:27 PM PDT by Daniel Bliss
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To: Daniel Bliss

Ever hear of DCS?


42 posted on 10/12/2007 3:49:47 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Daniel Bliss
The EU will never force its Constitution on the British people, sir. There are too many British patriots, like myself, who will resist...

I do hope you are correct. Your government, on the other hand, does not appear to want you to have much say in the matter.

It will be a black day should Britain forfeit her sovereignty to Brussels.

43 posted on 10/12/2007 3:59:02 PM PDT by AIM-54
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To: skinkinthegrass
policeman/boobie

No, in Britain they're BOBBIES.

44 posted on 10/12/2007 4:17:39 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Fido969
No, in Britain they're BOBBIES

Psssttttt......a play on words
BOOB: 1 : a stupid awkward person : simpleton

45 posted on 10/13/2007 1:28:27 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, Fred, Run. :^)
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To: skinkinthegrass
Boobs:


46 posted on 10/13/2007 1:43:42 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Fido969
LOL!...HA! HA!
I like those, too. :D
47 posted on 10/13/2007 1:54:15 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, Fred, Run. :^)
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To: dit_xi
Do they make noise or shoot some cork/plastic bullets?

No, the user must use some imagination. I have given some serious thought of embedding a realistic noise maker in them.

48 posted on 10/15/2007 7:17:02 AM PDT by GingisK
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