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The Veterans Disarmament Act -HR 2640, section 102 (1)(iv)HAS "PASSED" IN THE HOUSE
Congress ^ | Sept. 2007 | Bill in Congress HR 2640, section 102, (1)(iv)

Posted on 10/11/2007 5:20:46 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife

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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife

BTTT


101 posted on 10/12/2007 12:05:57 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Is this true? I will have my membership cancelled within the hour if it is.


102 posted on 10/12/2007 12:08:38 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: BykrBayb

Put this in an email and send it to EVERYONE you know. We have to call our Senators and do it quickly. This Bill “has to DIE OUT! We need to KILL THIS BILL!

It’s for our Troops, it’s for our Vets!

And it’s for our Constitution which is under attack!


103 posted on 10/12/2007 12:08:58 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (We stand firm with the President and the troops, never wavering. We do NOT support terrorists.)
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To: AuntB
Hi AuntB;

No, it's not passed the Senate YET!

Just the House!

But the fact it passed the Democratically controlled house is frightening enough!

When I called Boxer and Feinsteins office they admit it IS coming up for a vote, in my distraught stage, I didn't ask WHEN!

But I can tell you it is being "snuck in" without much fan fare. (Why haven't we heard opponents of it either?)

They are taking away our troops Constitutional rights to bear arms!

They can carry arms, kill people to protect this country, but by gosh, when they get home, they will loose all their rights to bear arms upon re-entering their homeland if they seek any kind of help We are all in danger of losing our right to bear arms if this passes. Because these troops have committed no Felonies, yet they will be treated like FELONS!

Thanks for the links too.

We really need to get on the band wagon on this one, fast!

That it passed through the House is a huge slap in the faces of thousands and thousands of Vets already. Enough is enough.

104 posted on 10/12/2007 12:24:27 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (We stand firm with the President and the troops, never wavering. We do NOT support terrorists.)
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To: pray4liberty

Our President didn’t have anything to do with this, but he COULD Veto it if it passes both bodies!


105 posted on 10/12/2007 12:25:34 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (We stand firm with the President and the troops, never wavering. We do NOT support terrorists.)
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife

“who has ever been diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)”

These guys were all by and large treated at VA facilities.

These libtards really have a lot of faith in the government health systems that they worship now don’t they?


106 posted on 10/12/2007 12:26:33 PM PDT by Grunthor (Thank you Mack Strong, and may God Bless you and your entire family.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Thanks! And thank you for your service! I’m sure you’re as upset about this as all of us are... it’s a sad day in America when we spit in the faces of our Vets!


107 posted on 10/12/2007 12:26:48 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (We stand firm with the President and the troops, never wavering. We do NOT support terrorists.)
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife

Violates the Americans with Disabilities Act. Gun ownership is a basic right guaranteed by the Constitution and cannot be infringed for reason of disability.


108 posted on 10/12/2007 12:26:55 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Brucifer
Gee, and how many cases of Vietnam Vets going berserk and using an Assault rifle have we heard about?

I can't think of one.

Kind of reminds me of all the polling calls I get!

109 posted on 10/12/2007 12:31:58 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (We stand firm with the President and the troops, never wavering. We do NOT support terrorists.)
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To: ANGGAPO
How about calling the NRA and advising them of this bill?

They already know. They supported this atrocity. In fact they sent me a loooonnnnng e-mail "debunking" all the so called myths surrounding this bill. The idea, or so I gather, was to take the wind out of the liberals after Virginia Tech. Know what sickens me the most? I'm one of the folks it might affect. I'm not a combat vet, but I suffered for years with depression. When life was no longer any fun, I sought help at the VA. I made sure that they wouldn't submit my info to the Feds and the VA folks were very supportive. I got help and now I'm fine. Also notes were made in my file stating specifically that at no time was I ever a threat to myself or to others. Now this. It's the first time I've ever regretted my military service.

110 posted on 10/12/2007 12:32:18 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: freema

Thanks freema!!!!


111 posted on 10/12/2007 12:32:47 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (We stand firm with the President and the troops, never wavering. We do NOT support terrorists.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Whoa... good point!

Are they going to give a gun BACK to a troop who suffered PTSD while on active duty? But was better after R&R?

Great point! Sometimes our troops are changed, sometimes forever. Like my brother. But it doesn’t mean they’d ever harm someone else.

30 some years later, I still don’t have my brother back, not like he was before he served, but he shouldn’t be punished for having served his country, nor should he be striped of his 2nd amendment rights either.

NOR should our brave men and women who are so honorably serving us today!


112 posted on 10/12/2007 12:36:48 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (We stand firm with the President and the troops, We never waver. We don't support terrorists!)
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To: Fred Hayek

I hate to say it, but if we lose this war against an enemy whose total desire has been world dominance since the 1300’s happens, I hope people who hate the military are the first to suffer.

God forgive me.


113 posted on 10/12/2007 12:42:51 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (We stand firm with the President and the troops, We never waver. We don't support terrorists!)
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To: Liz

Yep......this fictional rabid ass crazy veteran has all the guns he needs so their unconstitutional BS laws are moot for me and millions of other make believe boogie men that haunts their socialist sedition sects ideology.....

I am on Texas Senators today as well......snail mail, hand written, postage stamp and registered etc telling em what I think and my voting plan for folks that support this cow crap.


114 posted on 10/12/2007 12:45:09 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
How do we find out if the NRA had anything to do with this?

Yes, the NRA supports this bill. Not only have they said it many times (for instance, here at their factsheet on HR 2640 and in this article), but the Congressional discussion includes praise of how the Congress is working with the NRA on this bill.

I am a member of the NRA, and I don't support this bill. I called the NRA to talk about it, and the first person that I spoke with was the least knowledgeable individual on firearms issues that I have ever spoke with at any firearms organization (and she had a very odd accent which I would be unsurprised to find was Indian or Pakistani).

A bit frustrated, I called another number and found someone who at least had good knowledge of firearms issues. He said that if the NRA thought that any bad items might be attached to the bill that they would then withdraw their support. (A risible statement in my opinion since by that point I think that the bill would be unstoppable.)

The community is definitely split. Clayton Cramer supports HR 2640.

115 posted on 10/12/2007 12:50:37 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
PTSD was mostly shoved on the Nam vets by the lousy left and the MSM by their name calling. It aroused a guilt among us that was totally uncalled for.

Every man that has been in combat has had bad dreams but, eventually they go away. This is a sham and a direct slap in the face to the Vets that fought for this nation. To tell me I can't have the basic right that I fought for is....illegal. If GWB doesn't veto this POS then haul it in front of the SCOTUS. There's no way that this is constitutional.

116 posted on 10/12/2007 12:54:25 PM PDT by timydnuc (I'll die on my feet before I'll live on my knees.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Thanks, BG, will do.


117 posted on 10/12/2007 1:03:04 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: B4Ranch

“We certainly are not the group they want on the rooftops, aiming at them.”

If it comes down to it, the *them* will likely side with *us*. Can’t see current Feds or military shooting our Vets. That’s of course if the UN or some other foreign entity doesn’t show up to do the dirty work.


118 posted on 10/12/2007 1:07:29 PM PDT by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Here is the NRA's Official Position on HR 2640
119 posted on 10/12/2007 1:08:27 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife; jedward
FWIW, from links on NRA-ILA:

The NICS Improvement Bill: Myth and Reality

Clearing the Air on the Instant Check Bill (H.R. 2640)

HR 2640: Sensible Solution or Trojan Horse?

Gun Bill Not Anti-Veteran

120 posted on 10/12/2007 1:19:31 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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