Posted on 10/11/2007 6:54:07 PM PDT by kathsua
What is "illegal"? As of July l, not wearing a seat belt in Kansas makes you illegal. If you hold your crying child in your arms in a moving car, you're illegal. You are illegal if you smoke a cigarette in some cities, or if you burn your field, wash your car, or water your lawn during a ban. You can even become "illegal" without any effort on your own part.
Millions of people in this country arrived with their families as young children years ago. They grew up, went through school, married Americans, and had children, who, by birth, are Americans. If you think that being married to an American or being a parent of American children gives a person legal status under current law, you are wrong. Marriage or familial ties does not change your immigrant status.
Then people should "get legal," shouldn't they? Well, they very much want to, but today's immigration law makes it virtually impossible. See, you cannot apply for legal status while in the U.S. You must apply from your home country, even if you haven't lived there since you were a baby, and you have no home there to go back to. But suppose you do go back to your native country to apply. Part of the application process to come to the U.S. from another country includes an interview and affidavit both, which ask the specific question if you have lived in the U.S. without documentation. If your answer is "yes," then you must wait 10 years before applying again. If you lie and say "no," that's perjury (remember your name is on those children's birth certificates), and you are indefinitely barred from re-entering the United States. Millions of U.S. undocumented residents are in this very situation today. No intentional "crime" was committed, no harm or damage to anyone, yet in this era of terrorist paranoia, there is no avenue for millions of hardworking, otherwise law-abiding, people to become "legal."
Is it a realistic expectation for mothers or fathers in this situation to leave their families with no legal hope to rejoin them? Most Americans do not understand that strict enforcement of current law amounts to government-forced abandonment of families. U.S. society already feels the negative effects of broken homes and poverty from loss of breadwinners. Our country is not made better or safer by creating more.
People who are already here working, who have family ties, education, English, live upright lives, and have positively contributed to our society, should have some reasonable way to apply for and get legal work/resident status. It's time to change the law.
Government should concentrate on getting rid of citizens and aliens who steal and assault and let hard working people alone regardless of their immigration status.
IBTZ!
BTW, you are a moron.
Where’s the BARF ALERT?
Now where did I put my tiny wee violin ...
Where’s the BARF ALERT?
Now where did I put my tiny wee violin ...
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
This is really BARFY
LOL
The way things are structured now, everyone is a criminal before they learn to crawl.
Those of us who have been walking around for decades, working, paying our taxes and generally trying to do the right thing are career criminals.
Can we buy beach property in Mexico? No. Can an illegal buy beach property in the U.S., Yes. Are illegals innocent until proven guilty in the U.S.? Yes. Are Americans guilty until proven otherwise in Mexico? Yes. Do Americans need a passport to pass the border areas of Mexico? Yes. Is Mexico a totaly corrupt country? Yes. Are Mexicans bringing teir corruption to the U.S.? Yes.
Millions of people in this country arrived with their families as young children years ago. They grew up, went through school, married Americans, and had children, who, by birth, are Americans.
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If you had done all of those things and been here that long you would probably be legal due to the amnesty of ‘85.
theres alot of weird laws still on the books. you’d be suprised what is illegal
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Really??
So we just let anyone who wants to move here and have 5 Chevy's on blocks in their yard, 35 to a house, and speak no English.
You think that’s OK?
The concept of an informed, educated citizenry is not really important to you?
Is there a point to this, or is it just the usual liberal whining for those “poor unfortunate victims” they always want to accommodate with other people’s money?
>> Most Americans do not understand that strict enforcement of current law amounts to government-forced abandonment of families.
Wrong.
Most Americans don’t understand why illegal mama and illegal papa can’t take the kids back to Mexico with them when they leave.
What’s stopping them from choosing to keep their family together?
I make it a point to do something “illegal” everyday. I find it to be personally liberating. Dammed man made laws....
Ah, bill1952 has got it right, you are a moron !!!
“Is it a realistic expectation for mothers or fathers in this situation to leave their families with no legal hope to rejoin them?”
Take them to hell with you, and don’t let the door hit you in the butt on your way out...
The USA needs to overhaul it's "legal alien" process.
The illegal aliens that are already here, that are hard working, good people, need a path to legality, not a path to citizenship.
They should pay taxes, including back taxes as much as possible, BUT
We should also secure our border first.
We cannot accept the fact that our borders are as insecure as they are.
Anyone could bring weapons of mass destruction across our borders, and I'm not so sure that they already haven't.
We cannot continue to let people cross our border without our knowing who they are.
There must be a way for people to come to our country to work without breaking our laws.
The border comes first.
THEN we work on a path to legality for the hard working good people that are already here.
If they have a violent misdameanor, any type of a felony, or are a known gang member, out they go.
If they DO want to become a citizen they go to the back of the line at that point and wait their turn.
I don't have the plan to accomplish this but I truly believe that this is what needs to be accomplished.
“Are You Breaking the Law?”
And if not, why not!
Pssssst....
Undocumented workers are breaking the law and stealing services from local citizens.
Illegal immigrants are lawbreakers and those who condone such should be charged as criminals as well.
Well stated. I'm glad that it was the first reply on this crapola thread.
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