Skip to comments.Why conservatives should condemn Ann Coulter (vanity)
Posted on 10/12/2007 3:26:26 PM PDT by ChicagoHebrew
I've seen a significant amount of support on this board for Ann Coulter's recent comments on CNBC. Let me explain why that support is misplaced:
First, as an initial matter, I don't think Coulter's comments about Jews needing to be "perfected" are offensive at all. As an observant Jew, I obviously don't agree with Coulter. But Coulter's remarks here clearly represent standard Christian belief, and it's wrong and intolerant to condemn someone for her basic religious beliefs (provided, of course, that those beliefs don't cause one to do things like blow up Israeli school children or crash airplanes into buildings).
That being said, Coulter said more than standard Christian dogma. In explaining why the 2004 GOP convention was "like heaven," Coulter said "People were happy. They're Christian. They're tolerant. They defend America." That's flatly wrong and blatantly offensive -- attendees at the GOP convention included Christians, Jews, Muslims, atheists, agnostics and adherents of several other faiths. In defining the Republican Convention (and, tacitly) the Republican Party as Christian-only, Coulter has done a tremendous disservice to Republicans and conservatives in general. The fact of the matter is that you don't have to be Christian to believe in things like small government, strong national security, legal fidelity to the constitution, and basic moral values. No one here should defend attempts to define conservatism or the Republican Party as limited to believing Christians. . .
As an aside, please don't let this thread be dominated with replies trying to "convince" me that Christianity is right. Suffice it to say that I have heard and rejected every single one of those arguments. But, as is the nature of being a 1% minority, I -- like most Jews -- get missionized quite frequently, which we find very irritating. Kind of like door-to-door salesmen who keep showing up a few times a week and don't always take a polite "no" for an answer.
If Ann Coulter was a muslim, she’d just say Jews need to be killed.
As an agnostic, I can tell you that I am not offended by Ann Coulter’s remark, nor am I offended to be associated with Christians (or Jews), as this is a Judeo-Christian country. I like her quick wit, and while the left looks for another conservative to scapegoat, ridicule and lecture, I won’t be a part of it. Plus, Ann Coulter is smokin’ hot!
What I’d like to know is why so many Jews are liberal/progressive/Democrat when in fact leftist dogma is anti-Jew and anti-Israel.
I wonder how her secular Jewish boyfriend (New York politico Andy Stein) feels about this?
I’m with you. I don’t pay much attention to her these days since it has become pretty obvious that she is more about getting publicity for herself than she is about effectively advancing conservative positions. Just as an aside, her attempts to explain Christian doctrine and the Gospel on D. Deutsch’s show were pretty incoherent and garbled.
He didn’t tell you what you may or may not post. He clearly made a polite request—which is his right, and which you have the right of agreeing to or disagreeing with (and thus try to ‘missionize him’).
I’m not trying to sell you anything. Are you?
.. and if you don't you'll be a bigot?
To wit, No one here should defend attempts to define conservatism or the Republican Party as limited to believing Christians. Who intimated that?
I know the name of that tune. Name-calling was was top-40 throughout the last four decades of the 1900s. I hope we've moved beyond that. I for one will not condemn Ms Coulter.
Call me a bigot.. please!
The issue is what she meant.. not her. I am tired of seeing the individual being named the "issue."
Mega Agnostic Dittos!
I just wish a few of the Republican Presidential candidates would have half of the guts that this wickedly smart and funny lady does.
This is the USA. We have freedom of speech here. I think that Anne has a right to talk. It is just her opinion. This is a free country.
I give your vanity a 4 ... the righteous indignation is there, but it isn’t much to dance to and you didn’t threaten to leave if we didn’t all agree with you. Try a bit harder next time.
I think David Horowitz has it right:
“I have received a surprising number of emails from friends basically asking “What are you going to do about Coulter?” This is a reference to her recent comment that she is hoping for the perfection of the Jews. My response is this: what else would a Christian hope for? That’s the message of the New Testament: Jesus came to fulfil, complete, perfect the Law. If you’re a Christian, that’s what you believe. If you don’t accompany this belief by burning Jews who refuse to become perfected at the stake why would any Jew have a problem? Why do some Jews think that Christians should not really believe what they believe while it’s okay for Jews to really believe they are God’s Chosen People? I don’t get it. Whatever happened to the pluralism of ideas? In any case, what I’m going to do about Coulter is finish her latest exhilarating book, If Democrats Had Any Brains They’d Be Republicans, which happens to be a hall of fame of her so-called “over the top” moments that drive leftists crazy. Right on Ann.”
You live in an overwhelmingly-Christian nation and subscribe to a political philosophy shared by the overwhelming majority of those same Christians.
Deal with it and get over yourself. I’m sick of whiners of all stripes.
...such as If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans with Coulter making a 'modelesque' pose on the cover...
Saaay...I happen to have that book on my book pile (queued up to be read at some distant date in the future)... Is it any good?
I enjoyed her other books -- dripping with pointed sarcasm (which was half the fun) -- and she also displayed excellent clarity in presenting her opinions.
Only to someone who is looking for reasons to be offended. The things some Democrats have said about our troops is what should offend you.