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Ron Paul: Fool or Scoundrel?

Posted on 10/14/2007 1:29:17 PM PDT by reasonisfaith

Something about Ron Paul doesn’t smell right. Despite the fact that he appears to advocate core conservative values such as upholding the constitution and limiting government power, instinct tells me not to touch Ron Paul with a ten foot pole. Conservatives understand this. He’s just too kooky. I think it comes down to two possibilities: either Ron Paul is very foolish or he is very evil.

It’s true that on a certain level, tending to our own political and economic affairs here in the U.S. is where we should focus most of our resources. But the cauldrons of tyranny and terror are ever-present in far reaches of the world. When these wicked brews begin to boil over and spill their hateful contents onto our land, that’s the point where we must take action to extinguish the fire at its source. We did so in Japan and Germany sixty-odd years ago, and we are now doing it in Iraq.

Ron Paul’s behavior is consistent with two possibilities. The first possibility allows for the notion that Paul is an honest man with true libertarian beliefs who just doesn’t understand the reality of geopolitics, thus he is basically a kook hopelessly unfit for the oval office. The second possibility is less likely but nonetheless fun for the imagination: Ron Paul is part of a conspiracy, planned for decades, that covertly seeks something sinister—either a Hillary presidency (by means of dividing the conservative vote) or the downfall of the United States.


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1 posted on 10/14/2007 1:29:41 PM PDT by reasonisfaith
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To: reasonisfaith
instinct tells me not to touch Ron Paul with a ten foot pole.

Not even with a borrowed 10 foot pole.

2 posted on 10/14/2007 1:32:35 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: reasonisfaith
Ron Paul: Fool or Scoundrel?

How 'bout both?

Wait, I have it--a phony Republican
3 posted on 10/14/2007 1:33:54 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Star Wars teaches us a foreboding lesson--evil emperors start out as Senators)
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To: reasonisfaith
I think he's a kook. He reminds me of the type who, when you ask them what we should do *now*... they get all wild-eyed and say, "Have you ever read The Creature From Jekyll Island?? It all started with the creation of the Federal Reserve!!"

Well, okay, sure. But that does us no good NOW, so what do we do NOW?

"We never should have gotten involved in WWI!"

Uh. Right. Okay. So what do we do NOW?

"Do you know about the Rothschild connection??"

I mean, it's like dealing with someone who wanders around museums with a dueling pistol and a copy of The DaVinci Code clutched in their hand.

4 posted on 10/14/2007 1:36:23 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: reasonisfaith

I’m more concerned about Rudy as the biggest threat to the GOP. Not Ron Paul. Not even Ann Coulter or Michael Savage.


5 posted on 10/14/2007 1:36:41 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: reasonisfaith

He’s a Libertarian, not a conservative. He recognizes that the Libertarian party is a lost cause, and so runs as a Republican.


6 posted on 10/14/2007 1:37:51 PM PDT by absalom01 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: reasonisfaith

Your post is about as Kooky as you claim Ron Paul to be. A Democratic conspiracy? He’s not even close to getting the Republican nomination so it doesn’t even matter. Excluding Iraq, his positions are still just too extreme for the majority of America (elimination of all entitlement programs, abolishment of the federal income tax, etc) to ever be anything more than help keep spending in line to some degree. Besides Iraq, every position of his is at DIRECT odds with the Democratic Party. He’s Pro States Rights, against affirmative action, against Roe Vs Wade, against entitlement programs, etc.


7 posted on 10/14/2007 1:38:26 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: reasonisfaith
The second possibility is less likely but nonetheless fun for the imagination: Ron Paul is part of a conspiracy, planned for decades, that covertly seeks something sinister—either a Hillary presidency (by means of dividing the conservative vote) or the downfall of the United States.

Rino globalists and overtly socialist Democrats are already about a stone's throw away from accomplishing that goal. We will be compromised from within by those groups if we do not wake up and stop them.

I hear a voice in Ron Paul standing against them with real ideas. For example, his intent to abolish the Federal Reserve and bring back a precious metal-based currency standard. When the private bankers got control over our currency in 1913, it was inevitable that liberals would take inexorable control over our entire society. And that is happening, without a doubt.

Considering the money we spend on global redistribution of American wealth for the purpose of 'diplomacy' (the transfer of wealth via declining dollar value nothwithstanding) we have not just domestic communism to fight, but now international socialism funded by our own politicians. It must stop. These are more important issues than anything else right now.

8 posted on 10/14/2007 1:39:14 PM PDT by Old 300
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To: reasonisfaith
I get the feeling he's just a moonbat, although he could be so good at deception that he does have evil intentions.

The way some of his followers obsessively worship him is also somewhat off-putting. You wonder if the're all waiting for the Mother Ship to come and get them.

9 posted on 10/14/2007 1:41:49 PM PDT by Allegra (Proud Member of the Westheimer Wonders)
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To: reasonisfaith
Ron Paul is part of a conspiracy, planned for decades, that covertly seeks something sinister

LOL! I thought it was Ron Paul and his supporters who were the 'kooks' and 'conspiracy theorists'?
10 posted on 10/14/2007 1:43:55 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Museums! I think you might be onto something. Hint to Paul campaign staff—now you know where to find him during those sporadic episodes when he strangely goes missing.


11 posted on 10/14/2007 1:47:14 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (A leftist will never stand up like a man and admit his true beliefs)
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To: A_perfect_lady
"Have you ever read The Creature From Jekyll Island?? It all started with the creation of the Federal Reserve!

It should be an excellent treatise on the sneaky, scurrilous manner in which the Federal Reserve act of 1913 was perpetrated on the American people on the pretext of wrestling control of the nation's monetary system away from the robber barons.

Instead, the Federal Reserve act handed them all the monetary power directly.

These are historical facts. Staunch John Birch conservatives adhere to the view that the Fed is a tool of tyranny. The von Mises institute, a notable conservative think tank agrees. Ron Paul is not some lone voice in the wilderness crying out about these issues: a wealth of economic theory supports his views.

If you wonder why other candidates aren't speaking out against our ludicrous and corrupt monetary system, remember that they have a vested interest in maintaining it.

The film Fiat Empire about the Fed's takeover of our system is basically the book you were mentioning in video form, as far as I know. I would encourage everyone to watch it through.

12 posted on 10/14/2007 1:47:23 PM PDT by Old 300
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To: reasonisfaith
If he still is a true libertarian than someone should ask him some questions at a ‘GOP’ debate that point out the difference between ‘conservative’ and ‘libertarian’ positions and also between ‘liberal’ and ‘libertarian’ positions. By appearing to be just an anti-war and anti-’generic big spending’ candidate he’s getting some passes he doesn’t deserve. If he has to publicly defend legalizing drugs, ending federal subsidies of student loans, supporting gun rights, ending welfare, medicare, medicaid, social security, farm subsidies and a lot of other specific government spending, etc. he’s going to lose support of those who are on the right or left, but like some part of the libertarian agenda in favor of candidates who more accurately reflect their beliefs. If he’s now a loon instead of an orthodox libertarian his answers will let us know and cost him that base. Still, I do wish there were some way to harness his fans' obvious spam skills. Just imagine a poll in Tehran, “Who is Allah’s Prophet?” where the winner come up “Ron Paul.”
13 posted on 10/14/2007 1:48:20 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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To: reasonisfaith

He won’t matter anyway.


14 posted on 10/14/2007 1:48:58 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: rb22982

The marjority of his positions are more at odds with sanity. In fact, he does a 360 all the way to the fringe elements of liberals like drugs and economics. From Volcker to the present, the Federal Reserve has helped to fuel the people and markets that have created our growth—from the corner store to the fixed business investment.


15 posted on 10/14/2007 1:51:23 PM PDT by ridge
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To: reasonisfaith

Annoying pain in the ass.

The titles of his threads are sometimes cause for a hearty chuckle or a choking back of vomit.

I never read the threads or articles about him, I read enough about him without even trying. This is my first.

Perhaps the people for Paul could start supporting Hillary as they have mastered the art of annoyance and subsequent backlash.


16 posted on 10/14/2007 1:53:33 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: JohnBovenmyer
If he has to publicly defend legalizing drugs, ending federal subsidies of student loans, supporting gun rights, ending welfare, medicare, medicaid, social security, farm subsidies and a lot of other specific government spending, etc. he’s going to lose support of those who are on the right or left, but like some part of the libertarian agenda in favor of candidates who more accurately reflect their beliefs.

Then we're foreever stuck with rinos because we can't even consider abolishing these massive federal programs? If that's the case, the country is doomed to global socialism, because that's what rinos and democrats are advocating. Redistribution of wealth is now no longer confined to our shores: it's a global challenge to the elite. Think $31b we've promised to Africa alone. Think welfare for illegal immigrants. Think about our defense budget for Saudi Arabia alone.

Conservatives need to reevaluate their willingness to kowtow to the left. We have a better way. We know that government is the problem, not the solution. We have a way forward. We shouldn't be apologizing and retreating from truth.

17 posted on 10/14/2007 1:55:43 PM PDT by Old 300
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To: rb22982

So why is it that his defining issue is losing the Iraq war? When people think of Ron Paul, they don’t think of solid conservatism. They think of this kooky squirrel-like oddball whose tantrums over cutting and running from Iraq have suspiciously become even more shrill now that we are having success there.


18 posted on 10/14/2007 1:56:10 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (A leftist will never stand up like a man and admit his true beliefs)
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To: reasonisfaith

He’s just taking a play from the Jesse Jackson/Pat Buchanan playbook. Find a fringe niche that 1% of the population supports and milk that 1% for money and publicity.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat.


19 posted on 10/14/2007 1:57:26 PM PDT by peyton randolph (tag line taking a siesta)
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To: ridge

What exactly is liberal about his economics? Because he opposes the Federal Reserve? Do you even know what you are talking about? The Federal Reserve & the Drug War were liberal inventions to control the masses. The FR was put together by the Rockfellars, etc and signed by W Wilson. The Drug War was started by WW and escalated dramatically by FDR after Prohibition repeal. Yeah—true beacons of conservatism—Woodrow Wilson, Rockefeller & FDR. Give me a break. The drug war is such a big issue on Ron Paul anyway—that it’s NOT even talked about as an issue on his page.


20 posted on 10/14/2007 1:59:25 PM PDT by rb22982
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