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The New Girl Order
City Journal ^ | Autumn 2007 | Kay S. Hymowitz

Posted on 10/15/2007 2:04:43 AM PDT by neverdem

The Carrie Bradshaw lifestyle is showing up in unexpected places, with unintended consequences.

After my Lot Airlines flight from New York touched down at Warsaw’s Frédéric Chopin Airport a few months back, I watched a middle-aged passenger rush to embrace a waiting younger woman—clearly her daughter. Like many people on the plane, the older woman wore drab clothing and had the short, square physique of someone familiar with too many potatoes and too much manual labor. Her Poland-based daughter, by contrast, was tall and smartly outfitted in pointy-toed pumps, slim-cut jeans, a cropped jacket revealing a toned midriff (Yoga? Pilates? Or just a low-carb diet?), and a large, brass-studded leather bag, into which she dropped a silver cell phone.

Yes: Carrie Bradshaw is alive and well and living in Warsaw. Well, not just Warsaw. Conceived and raised in the United States, Carrie may still see New York as a spiritual home. But today you can find her in cities across Europe, Asia, and North America. Seek out the trendy shoe stores in Shanghai, Berlin, Singapore, Seoul, and Dublin, and you’ll see crowds of single young females (SYFs) in their twenties and thirties, who spend their hours working their abs and their careers, sipping cocktails, dancing at clubs, and (yawn) talking about relationships. Sex and the City has gone global; the SYF world is now flat.

Is this just the latest example of American cultural imperialism? Or is it the triumph of planetary feminism? Neither. The globalization of the SYF reflects a series of stunning demographic and economic shifts that are pointing much of the world—with important exceptions, including Africa and most of the Middle East—toward a New Girl Order. It’s a man’s world, James Brown always reminded us. But if these trends continue, not so much.

Three demographic facts are at the core of the New Girl Order. First, women—especially, but not only, in the developed world—are getting married and having kids considerably later than ever before. According to the UN’s World Fertility Report, the worldwide median age of marriage for women is up two years, from 21.2 in the 1970s to 23.2 today. In the developed countries, the rise has been considerably steeper—from 22.0 to 26.1.

Demographers get really excited about shifts like these, but in case you don’t get what the big deal is, consider: in 1960, 70 percent of American 25-year-old women were married with children; in 2000, only 25 percent of them were. In 1970, just 7.4 percent of all American 30- to 34-year-olds were unmarried; today, the number is 22 percent. That change took about a generation to unfold, but in Asia and Eastern Europe the transformation has been much more abrupt. In today’s Hungary, for instance, 30 percent of women in their early thirties are single, compared with 6 percent of their mothers’ generation at the same age. In South Korea, 40 percent of 30-year-olds are single, compared with 14 percent only 20 years ago.

Nothing-new-under-the-sun skeptics point out, correctly, that marrying at 27 or 28 was once commonplace for women, at least in the United States and parts of northern Europe. The cultural anomaly was the 1950s and 60s, when the average age of marriage for women dipped to 20—probably because of post-Depression and postwar cocooning. But today’s single 27-year-old has gone global—and even in the West, she differs from her late-marrying great-grandma in fundamental ways that bring us to the second piece of the demographic story. Today’s aspiring middle-class women are gearing up to be part of the paid labor market for most of their adult lives; unlike their ancestral singles, they’re looking for careers, not jobs. And that means they need lots of schooling.

In the newly global economy, good jobs go to those with degrees, and all over the world, young people, particularly women, are enrolling in colleges and universities at unprecedented rates. Between 1960 and 2000, the percentages of 20-, 25-, and 30-year-olds enrolled in school more than doubled in the U.S., and enrollment in higher education doubled throughout Europe. And the fairer sex makes up an increasing part of the total. The majority of college students are female in the U.S., the U.K., France, Germany, Norway, and Australia, to name only a few of many places, and the gender gap is quickly narrowing in more traditional countries like China, Japan, and South Korea. In a number of European countries, including Denmark, Finland, and France, over half of all women between 20 and 24 are in school. The number of countries where women constitute the majority of graduate students is also growing rapidly.

That educated women are staying single is unsurprising; degreed women have always been more likely to marry late, if they marry at all. But what has demographers taking notice is the sheer transnational numbers of women postponing marriage while they get diplomas and start careers. In the U.K., close to a third of 30-year-old college-educated women are unmarried; some demographers predict that 30 percent of women with university degrees there will remain forever childless. In Spain—not so long ago a culturally Catholic country where a girl’s family would jealously chaperone her until handing her over to a husband at 21 or so—women now constitute 54 percent of college students, up from 26 percent in 1970, and the average age of first birth has risen to nearly 30, which appears to be a world record.

Adding to the contemporary SYF’s novelty is the third demographic shift: urbanization. American and northern European women in the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries might have married at 26, but after a long day in the dairy barn or cotton mill, they didn’t hang out at Studio 54 while looking for Mr. Right (or, as the joke has it, Mr. Right for Now). In the past, women who delayed marriage generally lived with their parents; they also remained part of the family economy, laboring in their parents’ shops or farms, or at the very least, contributing to the family kitty. A lot of today’s bachelorettes, on the other hand, move from their native village or town to Boston or Berlin or Seoul because that’s where the jobs, boys, and bars are—and they spend their earnings on themselves.

By the mid-1990s, in countries as diverse as Canada, France, Hungary, Ireland, Portugal, and Russia, women were out-urbanizing men, who still tended to hang around the home village. When they can afford to, these women live alone or with roommates. The Netherlands, for instance, is flush with public housing, some of it reserved for young students and workers, including lots of women. In the United States, the proportion of unmarried twentysomethings living with their parents has declined steadily over the last 100 years, despite sky-high rents and apartment prices. Even in countries where SYFs can’t afford to move out of their parents’ homes, the anonymity and diversity of city life tend to heighten their autonomy. Belgians, notes University of Maryland professor Jeffrey Jensen Arnett, have coined a term—“hotel families”—to describe the arrangement.

Combine these trends—delayed marriage, expanded higher education and labor-force participation, urbanization—add a global media and some disposable income, and voilà: an international lifestyle is born. One of its defining characteristics is long hours of office work, often in quasi-creative fields like media, fashion, communications, and design—areas in which the number of careers has exploded in the global economy over the past few decades. The lifestyle also means whole new realms of leisure and consumption, often enjoyed with a group of close girlfriends: trendy cafés and bars serving sweetish coffee concoctions and cocktails; fancy boutiques, malls, and emporiums hawking cosmetics, handbags, shoes, and $100-plus buttock-hugging jeans; gyms for toning and male-watching; ski resorts and beach hotels; and, everywhere, the frustrating hunt for a boyfriend and, though it’s an ever more vexing subject, a husband.

The SYF lifestyle first appeared in primitive form in the U.S. during the seventies, after young women started moving into higher education, looking for meaningful work, and delaying marriage. Think of ur-SYF Mary Richards, the pre-Jordache career girl played by Mary Tyler Moore, whose dates dropped her off—that same evening, of course—at her apartment door. By the mid-nineties, such propriety was completely passé. Mary had become the vocationally and sexually assertive Carrie Bradshaw, and cities like New York had magically transformed into the young person’s pleasure palace evoked by the hugely popular TV show Sex and the City. At around the same time, women in Asia and in post-Communist Europe began to join the SYF demographic, too. Not surprisingly, they also loved watching themselves, or at least Hollywood versions of themselves, on television. Friends, Ally McBeal, and Sex and the City became global favorites. In repressive places like Singapore and China, which banned SATC, women passed around pirated DVDs.

By the late 1990s, the SYF lifestyle was fully globalized. Indeed, you might think of SYFs as a sociological Starbucks: no matter how exotic the location, there they are, looking and behaving just like the American prototype. They shop for shoes in Kyoto, purses in Shanghai, jeans in Prague, and lip gloss in Singapore; they sip lattes in Dublin, drink cocktails in Chicago, and read lifestyle magazines in Kraków; they go to wine tastings in Boston, speed-dating events in Amsterdam, yoga classes in Paris, and ski resorts outside Tokyo. “At the fashionable Da Capo Café on bustling Kolonaki Square in downtown Athens, Greek professionals in their 30s and early 40s luxuriate over their iced cappuccinos,” a Newsweek International article began last year. “Their favorite topic of conversation is, of course, relationships: men’s reluctance to commit, women’s independence, and when to have children.” Thirty-seven-year-old Eirini Perpovlov, an administrative assistant at Associated Press, “loves her work and gets her social sustenance from her parea, or close-knit group of like-minded friends.”

Sure sounds similar to this July’s Time story about Vicky, “a purposeful, 29-year-old actuary who . . . loves nothing better than a party. She and her friends meet so regularly for dinner and at bars that she says she never eats at home anymore. As the pictures on her blog attest, they also throw regular theme parties to mark holidays like Halloween and Christmas, and last year took a holiday to Egypt.” At the restaurant where the reporter interviews them, Vicky’s friends gab about snowboarding, iPods, credit-card rates, and a popular resort off the coast of Thailand. Vicky, whose motto is “work hard, play harder,” is not from New York, London, or even Athens; she’s from the SYF delegation in Beijing, China, a country that appears to be racing from rice paddies to sushi bars in less than a generation—at least for a privileged minority.

With no children or parents to support, and with serious financial hardship a bedtime story told by aging grandparents, SYFs have ignited what The Economist calls the “Bridget Jones economy”—named, of course, after the book and movie heroine who is perhaps the most famous SYF of all. Bridget Jonesers, the magazine says, spend their disposable income “on whatever is fashionable, frivolous, and fun,” manufactured by a bevy of new companies that cater to young women. In 2000, Marian Salzman—then the president of the London-based Intelligence Factory, an arm of Young & Rubicam—said that by the 1990s, “women living alone had come to comprise the strongest consumer bloc in much the same way that yuppies did in the 1980s.”

SYFs drive the growth of apparel stores devoted to stylish career wear like Ann Taylor, which now has more than 800 shops in the United States, and the international Zara, with more than 1,000 in 54 countries. They also spend paychecks at the Paris-based Sephora, Europe’s largest retailer of perfumes and cosmetics, which targets younger women in 14 countries, including such formerly sober redoubts as Poland and the Czech Republic. The chain plans to expand to China soon. According to Forbes, the Chinese cosmetics market, largely an urban phenomenon, was up 17 percent in 2006, and experts predict a growth rate of between 15 and 20 percent in upcoming years. Zara already has three stores there.

The power of the SYF’s designer purse is also at work in the entertainment industry. By the mid-1990s, “chick lit,” a contemporary urban version of the Harlequin romance with the SYF as heroine, was topping bestseller lists in England and the United States. Now chick lit has spread all over the world. The books of the Irish writer Marian Keyes, one of the first and most successful chick-litterateurs, appear in 29 languages. The Devil Wears Prada was an international hit as both a book (by Lauren Weisberger) and a movie (starring Meryl Streep). Meantime, the television industry is seeking to satisfy the SYF’s appetite for single heroines with Sex and the City clones like The Marrying Type in South Korea and The Balzac Age in Russia.

Bridget Jonesers are also remaking the travel industry, especially in Asia. A 2005 report from MasterCard finds that women take four out of every ten trips in the Asia-Pacific region—up from one in ten back in the mid-1970s. While American women think about nature, adventure, or culture when choosing their travel destinations, says MasterCard, Asian women look for shopping, resorts, and, most of all, spas. Female travelers have led to what the report calls the “spa-ification of the Asian hotel industry.” That industry is growing at a spectacular rate—200 percent annually.

And now the maturing Bridget Jones economy has begun to feature big-ticket items. In 2003, the Diamond Trading Company introduced the “right-hand ring,” a diamond for women with no marital prospects but longing for a rock. (“Your left hand is your heart; your right hand is your voice,” one ad explains.) In some SYF capitals, women are moving into the real-estate market. Canadian single women are buying homes at twice the rate of single men. The National Association of Realtors reports that in the U.S. last year, single women made up 22 percent of the real-estate market, compared with a paltry 9 percent for single men. The median age for first-time female buyers: 32. The real-estate firm Coldwell Banker is making eyes at these young buyers with a new motto, “Your perfect partner since 1906,” while Lowe’s, the home-renovation giant, is offering classes especially for them. SYFs are also looking for wheels, and manufacturers are designing autos and accessories with them in mind. In Japan, Nissan has introduced the Pino, which has seat covers festooned with stars and a red CD player shaped like a pair of lips. It comes in one of two colors: “milk tea beige” and pink.

Japan presents a striking example of the sudden rise of the New Girl Order outside the U.S. and Western Europe. As recently as the nation’s boom years in the 1980s, the dominant image of the Japanese woman was of the housewife, or sengyoshufu, who doted on her young children, intently prepared older ones for the world economy, and waited on the man of the house after his 16-hour day at the office. She still exists, of course, but about a decade ago she met her nemesis: the Japanese SYF. Between 1994 and 2004, the number of Japanese women between 25 and 29 who were unmarried soared from 40 to 54 percent; even more remarkable was the number of 30- to 34-year-old females who were unmarried, which rocketed from 14 to 27 percent. Because of Tokyo’s expensive real-estate market, a good many of these young single women have shacked up with their parents, leading a prominent sociologist to brand them “parasite singles.” The derogatory term took off, but the girls weren’t disturbed; according to USA Today, many proudly printed up business cards bearing their new title.

The New Girl Order may represent a disruptive transformation for a deeply traditional society, but Japanese women sure seem to be enjoying the single life. Older singles who can afford it have even been buying their own apartments. One of them, 37-year-old Junko Sakai, wrote a best-selling plaint called The Howl of the Loser Dogs, a title that co-opts the term makeinu—“loser”—once commonly used to describe husbandless 30-year-olds. “Society may call us dogs,” she writes, “but we are happy and independent.” Today’s Japanese SYFs are world-class shoppers, and though they must still fight workplace discrimination and have limited career tracks—particularly if they aren’t working for Westernized companies—they’re somehow managing to earn enough yen to keep the country’s many Vuitton, Burberry, and Issey Miyake boutiques buzzing. Not so long ago, Japanese hotels wouldn’t serve women traveling alone, in part because they suspected that the guests might be spinsters intent on hurling themselves off balconies to end their desperate solitude. Today, the losers are happily checking in at Japanese mountain lodges, not to mention Australian spas, Vietnamese hotels, and Hawaiian beach resorts.

And unlike their foreign counterparts in the New Girl Order, Japanese singles don’t seem to be worrying much about finding Mr. Right. A majority of Japanese single women between 25 and 54 say that they’d be just as happy never to marry. Peggy Orenstein, writing in the New York Times Magazine in 2001, noted that Japanese women find American-style sentimentality about marriage puzzling. Yoko Harruka, a television personality and author of a book called I Won’t Get Married—written after she realized that her then-fiancé expected her to quit her career and serve him tea—says that her countrymen propose with lines like, “I want you to cook miso soup for me for the rest of my life.” Japanese SYFs complain that men don’t show affection and expect women to cook dinner obediently while they sit on their duffs reading the paper. Is it any wonder that the women prefer Burberry?

Post-Communist Europe is also going through the shock of the New Girl Order. Under Communist rule, women tended to marry and have kids early. In the late eighties, the mean age of first birth in East Germany, for instance, was 24.7, far lower than the West German average of 28.3. According to Tomáš Sobotka of the Vienna Institute of Demography, young people had plenty of reasons to schedule an early wedding day. Tying the knot was the only way to gain independence from parents, since married couples could get an apartment, while singles could not. Furthermore, access to modern contraception, which the state proved either unable or unwilling to produce at affordable prices, was limited. Marriages frequently began as the result of unplanned pregnancies.

And then the Wall came down. The free market launched shiny new job opportunities, making higher education more valuable than under Communist regimes, which had apportioned jobs and degrees. Suddenly, a young Polish or Hungarian woman might imagine having a career, and some fun at the same time. In cities like Warsaw and Budapest, young adults can find pleasures completely unknown to previous generations of singles. In one respect, Eastern European and Russian SYFs were better equipped than Japanese ones for the new order. The strong single woman, an invisible figure in Japan, has long been a prominent character in the social landscape of Eastern Europe and Russia, a legacy, doubtless, of the Communist-era emphasis on egalitarianism (however inconsistently applied) and the massive male casualties of World War II.

Not that the post-Communist SYF is any happier with the husband material than her Japanese counterpart is. Eastern European gals complain about men overindulged by widowed mothers and unable to adapt to the new economy. According to The Economist, many towns in what used to be East Germany now face Frauenmangel—a lack of women—as SYFs who excelled in school have moved west for jobs, leaving the poorly performing men behind. In some towns, the ratio is just 40 women to 100 men. Women constitute the majority of both high school and college graduates in Poland. Though Russian women haven’t joined the new order to the same extent, they’re also grumbling about the men. In Russian TV’s The Balzac Age, which chronicles the adventures of four single thirtysomething women, Alla, a high-achieving yuppie attorney, calls a handyman for help in her apartment. The two—to their mutual horror—recognize each other as former high school sweethearts, now moving in utterly different social universes.

There’s much to admire in the New Girl Order—and not just the previously hidden cleavage. Consider the lives most likely led by the mothers, grandmothers, great-grandmothers, and so on of the fashionista at the Warsaw airport or of the hard-partying Beijing actuary. Those women reached adulthood, which usually meant 18 or even younger; married guys from their village, or, if they were particularly daring, from the village across the river; and then had kids—end of story, except for maybe some goat milking, rice planting, or, in urban areas, shop tending. The New Girl Order means good-bye to such limitations. It means the possibility of more varied lives, of more expansively nourished aspirations. It also means a richer world. SYFs bring ambition, energy, and innovation to the economy, both local and global; they simultaneously promote and enjoy what author Brink Lindsey calls “the age of abundance.” The SYF, in sum, represents a dramatic advance in personal freedom and wealth.

But as with any momentous social change, the New Girl Order comes with costs—in this case, profound ones. The globalized SYF upends centuries of cultural traditions. However limiting, those traditions shaped how families formed and the next generation grew up. So it makes sense that the SYF is partly to blame for a worldwide drop in fertility rates. To keep a population stable, or at its “replacement level,” women must have an average of at least 2.1 children. Under the New Girl Order, though, women delay marriage and childbearing, which itself tends to reduce the number of kids, and sometimes—because the opportunity costs of children are much higher for educated women—they forgo them altogether. Save Albania, no European country stood at or above replacement levels in 2000. Three-quarters of Europeans now live in countries with fertility rates below 1.5, and even that number is inflated by a disproportionately high fertility rate among Muslim immigrants. Oddly, the most Catholic European countries—Italy, Spain, and Poland—have the lowest fertility rates, under 1.3. Much of Asia looks similar. In Japan, fertility rates are about 1.3. Hong Kong, according to the CIA’s World Factbook, at 0.98 has broken the barrier of one child per woman.

For many, fertility decline seems to be one more reason to celebrate the New Girl Order. Fewer people means fewer carbon footprints, after all, and thus potential environmental relief. But while we’re waiting for the temperature to drop a bit, economies will plunge in ways that will be extremely difficult to manage—and that, ironically, will likely spell the SYF lifestyle’s demise. As Philip Longman explains in his important book The Empty Cradle, dramatic declines in fertility rates equal aging and eventually shriveling populations. Japan now has one of the oldest populations in the world—one-third of its population, demographers predict, will be over 60 within a decade. True, fertility decline often spurs a temporary economic boost, as more women enter the workforce and increase income and spending, as was the case in 1980s Japan. In time, though, those women—and their male peers—will get old and need pensions and more health care.

And who will pay for that? With fewer children, the labor force shrinks, and so do tax receipts. Europe today has 35 pensioners for every 100 workers, Longman points out. By 2050, those 100 will be responsible for 75 pensioners; in Spain and Italy, the ratio of workers to pensioners will be a disastrous one-to-one. Adding to the economic threat, seniors with few or no children are more likely to look to the state for support than are elderly people with more children. The final irony is that the ambitious, hardworking SYF will have created a world where her children, should she have them, will need to work even harder in order to support her in her golden years.

Aging populations present other problems. For one thing, innovation and technological breakthroughs tend to be a young person’s game—think of the young Turks of the information technology revolution. Fewer young workers and higher tax burdens don’t make a good recipe for innovation and growth. Also, having fewer people leads to declining markets, and thus less business investment and formation. Where would you want to expand your cosmetics business: Ireland, where the population continues to renew itself, or Japan, where it is imploding?

And finally, the New Girl Order has given birth to a worrying ambivalence toward domestic life and the men who would help create it. Many analysts argue that today’s women of childbearing age would have more kids if only their countries provided generous benefits for working mothers, as they do in Sweden and France. And it’s true that those two countries have seen fertility rates inch up toward replacement levels in recent years. But in countries newly entering the New Girl Order, what SYFs complain about isn’t so much a gap between work and family life as a chasm between their own aspirations and those of the men who’d be their husbands (remember those Japanese women skeptical of a future cooking miso soup). Adding to the SYF’s alienation from domesticity is another glaring fact usually ignored by demographers: the New Girl Order is fun. Why get married when you can party on?

That raises an interesting question: Why are SYFs in the United States—the Rome of the New Girl Order—still so interested in marriage? By large margins, surveys suggest, American women want to marry and have kids. Indeed, our fertility rates, though lower than replacement level among college-educated women, are still healthier than those in most SYF countries (including Sweden and France). The answer may be that the family has always been essential ballast to the individualism, diversity, mobility, and sheer giddiness of American life. It helps that the U.S., like northwestern Europe, has a long tradition of “companionate marriage”—that is, marriage based not on strict roles but on common interests and mutual affection. Companionate marriage always rested on the assumption of female equality. Yet countries like Japan are joining the new order with no history of companionate relations, and when it comes to adapting to the new order, the cultural cupboard is bare. A number of analysts, including demographer Nicholas Eberstadt, have also argued that it is America’s religiousness that explains our relatively robust fertility, though the Polish fertility decline raises questions about that explanation.

It’s by no means certain that Americans will remain exceptional in this regard. The most recent census data show a “sharp increase,” over just the past six years, in the percentage of Americans in their twenties who have never married. Every year sees more books celebrating the SYF life, boasting titles like Singular Existence and Living Alone and Loving It. And SYFs will increasingly find themselves in a disappointing marriage pool. The New York Times excited considerable discussion this summer with a front-page article announcing that young women working full-time in several cities were now outearning their male counterparts. A historically unprecedented trend like this is bound to have a further impact on relations between the sexes and on marriage and childbearing rates.

Still, for now, women don’t seem too worried about the New Girl Order’s downside. On the contrary. The order marches on, as one domino after another falls to its pleasures and aspirations. Now, the Singapore Times tells us, young women in Vietnam are suddenly putting off marriage because they “want to have some fun”—and fertility rates have plummeted from 3.8 children in 1998 to 2.1 in 2006.

And then there’s India. “The Gen Now bachelorette brigade is in no hurry to tie the knot,” reports the India Tribune. “They’re single, independent, and happy.” Young urbanites are pushing up sales of branded apparel; Indian chick lit, along with Cosmopolitan and Vogue, flies out of shops in Delhi and Mumbai. Amazingly enough, fertility rates have dropped below replacement level in several of India’s major cities, thanks in part to aspirant fashionistas. If in India—India!—the New Girl Order can reduce population growth, then perhaps nothing is beyond its powers. At the very least, the Indian experiment gives new meaning to the phrase “shop till you drop.”

Kay S. Hymowitz is a contributing editor of City Journal and the William E. Simon Fellow at the Manhattan Institute. Her latest book, Marriage and Caste in America, is a collection of her City Journal essays.



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Hugh & series demographic bomb on favorite Ponzi schemes!
1 posted on 10/15/2007 2:04:47 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
The Carrie Bradshaw lifestyle is showing up in unexpected places, with unintended consequences. ...

Yes: Carrie Bradshaw is alive and well and living in Warsaw.

Who is Carrie Bradshaw?

2 posted on 10/15/2007 2:09:14 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: neverdem

That’s a long article. Will you take my order?


3 posted on 10/15/2007 2:21:15 AM PDT by Paul Heinzman (Fishin' for a good time starts with throwin' in your line.)
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To: neverdem

BUMP for later read!


4 posted on 10/15/2007 2:23:53 AM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (Avoid boring people!)
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To: wideminded
Who is Carrie Bradshaw?

My question too.

I assume she is a model or an actress that young single females look up to for some reason, but I've nver heard of her.

Or maybe she's a literary character, but I doubt these young things read much.

Now Terry Bradshaw, I know.

5 posted on 10/15/2007 2:50:19 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: wideminded

Sarah Jessica Parker (Carrie Bradshaw Sex in the City)


6 posted on 10/15/2007 2:53:02 AM PDT by rvoitier (What fools play for the AP National Title?)
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To: Paul Heinzman

LOL!


7 posted on 10/15/2007 3:13:32 AM PDT by freema (Still stoked about Hamdania. It ain't over.)
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To: neverdem
Instead of children leaving home and caring for the parents in their golden years, it will be parents boarding the children into golden years....
8 posted on 10/15/2007 3:18:56 AM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: neverdem

I’m currently working in Moscow and the “Sex in the City” magazines, billboards, and banners are plastered everywhere.


9 posted on 10/15/2007 3:21:31 AM PDT by jer33 3
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To: wideminded

Carrie Bradshaw is one of four vulgar and promiscuous women portrayed in the TV series “Sex in the City”.


10 posted on 10/15/2007 3:23:44 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Truthism Watch)
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To: neverdem
Hugh & series demographic bomb on favorite Ponzi schemes!

It's not just Social Security

It is a fact of life that ALL retirement plans, whether 401K or Social Security, rely on the assumption that there will be a large next generation who will run the economy which will generate the profits and tax revenues that will keep SS and mutual funds afloat

If things collapse, these Single Young Females will find themselves Single Old Females without husbands or sons to protect them against the barbarians

11 posted on 10/15/2007 3:24:45 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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> I’m currently working in Moscow and the “Sex in the City” magazines, billboards, and banners are plastered everywhere.

I missed out on “Sex in the City”. And on “The Sopranos”. Never saw any episodes or either, and I don’t feel deprived for some strange reason. Haven’t seen any of the “Survivor” thingamees nor “Lost” nor “CSI”.

I got a TV, and I think the last thing I regularly watched was “X-Files” a couple seasons before it canceled. Or it could have been “Home Improvement” — that was Hell Funny in its day!

I guess I found Real Life is much more exciting than anything TV could possibly dream up. You just need to find out where to look...


12 posted on 10/15/2007 3:28:21 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghill mi do dhuine. Fg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

I’ve never seen an episode of either of the shows you mentioned except Home Improvement. Even as a child I didn’t care much for watching television. On rare occasion I do watch Russian news and dubbed movies (all made in America) with Russian subtitles to help build my vocabulary.

By the way, a great majority of the DVDs in the stores are American. You can even find DVDs of all the sitcoms. LOST and 24 are quite popular with the young adults in Moscow.


13 posted on 10/15/2007 4:07:34 AM PDT by jer33 3
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To: neverdem

I like the author’s writing style. Interesting reading. She remains admirably removed from judgement of the SYF’s. Her description of their lifestyle is right on. Worldliness is definitely on the rise. But, who can blame them? The article finally got around to addressing the cultural impact of the “new order” - in one short paragraph toward the end. The sad thing is, there seems to be a serious lack of interest in Culture and Heritage. “Party On” is the new heritage.


14 posted on 10/15/2007 4:19:28 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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She remains admirably removed from judgement of the SYF’s.

Why is that admirable?

NO cheers, unfortunately.

15 posted on 10/15/2007 4:40:58 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: dangus
*PING* for a L-O-N-G article touching on the excellent Could UNDERpopulation Threaten Global Financial Systems? article on your homepage.

Read it to the end...

Cheers!

16 posted on 10/15/2007 4:44:17 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: PapaBear3625
It's not just Social Security

It is a fact of life that ALL retirement plans, whether 401K or Social Security, rely on the assumption that there will be a large next generation who will run the economy which will generate the profits and tax revenues that will keep SS and mutual funds afloat

If things collapse, these Single Young Females will find themselves Single Old Females without husbands or sons to protect them against the barbarians

I'm a firm believer in KISS, Keep It Simple Stupid, nothing personal.

17 posted on 10/15/2007 4:48:00 AM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: wideminded
Who is Carrie Bradshaw?

The airheaded tramp on Sex in the City who is supposed to be a role model for young females. She and three other bimbos sleep around, spend money on material things, and party a lot while pontificating on how awesome their lives are in comparison to all the drab and uninteresting women who existed in previous generations.

18 posted on 10/15/2007 4:51:07 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: neverdem

Lots of comparisons fly about these days between the Roman empire and the US. I wonder if a more accurate comparison is between the US and the Greek empire, which ruled the world culturally long after its political and military influence waned.


19 posted on 10/15/2007 4:51:33 AM PDT by Terabitten (Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets - E-Frat '94. Unity and Pride!)
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To: puroresu
Correction: The show is called Sex and the City.
20 posted on 10/15/2007 4:51:57 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: PapaBear3625

It is a fact of life that ALL retirement plans, whether 401K or Social Security, rely on the assumption that there will be a large next generation who will run the economy which will generate the profits and tax revenues that will keep SS and mutual funds afloat

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Thank you, you provide an illustration of a fact conveniently forgotten by too many. In the absence of an increasing population of workers our only real hope for retirement is robotics and that would depend on robots building other robots. Otherwise the future looks very bleak for today’s young folks when they reach retirement age.


21 posted on 10/15/2007 4:53:10 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anybody still believe this is a free country?)
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To: School of Rational Thought

THAT’S who “Carrie Bradshaw” is??? So then why use a washed up 40-something acting like a hot-babe wannabe to describe an actual hot 25 year old?


22 posted on 10/15/2007 4:54:29 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: neverdem

Delayed marriage and delayed childbearing mean a declining birth rate.

To pretend that there are not nations with increasing birthrates is silly. Therefore, the workers for the “new girl” lifestyles of the non-producing females will be the children of cultures not their own.

And, in that regard, those children will inherit that land.


23 posted on 10/15/2007 4:57:41 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: neverdem

Well, isn’t that special.


24 posted on 10/15/2007 5:00:58 AM PDT by nygoose
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To: xzins

No problem. The Muslims and other Third Worlders will help us out. </s>


25 posted on 10/15/2007 5:05:38 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: neverdem

“...And when your looks are gone and you’re alone
How many nights you sit beside the phone
What were the things you wanted for yourself
Teenage ambitions you remember well...”

~Asia


26 posted on 10/15/2007 5:08:44 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (You can't seriously tell me you think we need more laws, or that we don't already have too many.)
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To: puroresu

precisely


27 posted on 10/15/2007 5:12:06 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: neverdem
Why get married when you can party on? It looks as though more young women are adopting the attitude that so many young men have about marriage. Indeed, the rise of the SYF is a direct result of the widespread acceptance of artificial birth control and of the sexual revolution. If it's okay to have sex outside of marriage and if it's possible to prevent pregnancy, then why bother to get married? Why should men be the only ones to benefit from all of this glorious sexual freedom? Why should men have all the fun? The rise of SYFs is a bad thing but we shouldn't be surprised that it is happening.
28 posted on 10/15/2007 5:26:11 AM PDT by steadfastconservative
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To: Paul Heinzman

I’m bumping to read this later, also. Maybe as I’m having the car detailed.


29 posted on 10/15/2007 5:27:47 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: neverdem

translation for men:

FREE SEX.

translation for women:

sucker.


30 posted on 10/15/2007 5:54:55 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: neverdem

Sideways to the topic, but... am I the only one who’s never seen anything at all attractive in Sarah Jessica Parker? If they ever remake the Wizard of Oz, she’s a shoo-in for the Wicked Witch of the West.


31 posted on 10/15/2007 6:33:25 AM PDT by Goodness
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To: neverdem
My wife works as an RN in an infertility clinic. She sees these women all the time: 35, no kids, with poor choices for husbands, and desperate to have a baby.

Our family has accelerated the education of our daughters to the point that they are doing college and even some post-graduate level work at the ages of 13 and barely 15. That means that by the time they actually complete college, they'll have time for a family.

The current system is a recipe for a tragic life, not to mention demographic suicide.

32 posted on 10/15/2007 6:34:27 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: neverdem

More power to ‘em is what I say!


33 posted on 10/15/2007 6:38:23 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Goodness
am I the only one who’s never seen anything at all attractive in Sarah Jessica Parker?

That's her on the left. I think....

34 posted on 10/15/2007 6:38:37 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: PapaBear3625

There is an unfortunate and a fortunate side to this.

These people vote Democrat - and single females especially vote to have the government protect and provide security.

Short term - more government “protecting and security”.
Long term - less liberals due to the fertility gap.

Careers are baby deniers. These women are going to be VERY bitter when they have put off having children to go clubbing, work on their careers and abs, and stay out of committed relationships, only to be told by the doctor “I’m sorry, you probably can’t conceive at your age”.


35 posted on 10/15/2007 6:40:23 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: r9etb

LOL! And at least Mr. Ed could act. ;)


36 posted on 10/15/2007 6:43:16 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Goodness
am I the only one who’s never seen anything at all attractive in Sarah Jessica Parker?

No, you are not the only one.

There's no there there.

37 posted on 10/15/2007 6:53:42 AM PDT by Lizavetta ( Politicians: When they're speaking, they're lying - when they're not speaking, they're stealing.)
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To: r9etb

Is she related to John Kerry?


38 posted on 10/15/2007 7:01:40 AM PDT by Humvee (Beliefs are more powerful than facts - Paulus Atreides)
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To: MrB
These people vote Democrat - and single females especially vote to have the government protect and provide security

And there is a limit to the security the government can provide. The government only have the resources that the productive middle class creates for it

In the case of physical security, an instructive illustration is the LA riots: when the excrement hit the fan, you saw on TV the cops running away to save themselves, and to look after their own families and homes.

There is no "government", there are only men and women who work for the government, and who may have their own personal priorities then things go way south

39 posted on 10/15/2007 7:48:04 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: neverdem
I just returned from a women's retreat in which I spent considerable time talking to a mother of an 11 year old daughter. She is beside herself worrying about the corrupting influences on her young daughter and struggling to protect her innocence. As a mother of young sons, I often shake my head when I see how young girls are encouraged to be trashy and "hot". Many of these girls will end up used, discarded and bitter. I don't want my sons mixed up with girls like these, and I surely don't want girls of this sort to be mothers to my grandchildren.

I know each generation has typically thought that the next generation has loose morals, but I really don't think I'm over-reacting. Lives are being ruined by this celebration of sex as entertainment and sheer materialism. We certainly encourage our sons to treat women with respect, and to recognize and avoid trashy or high-maintenance women. I struggle with what else we can be doing to help swing the pendulum back to a more wholesome way of life.

40 posted on 10/15/2007 8:10:48 AM PDT by Think free or die
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To: PapaBear3625

Should I have been more specific and stated that single women, especially older single women, vote for the ILLUSION of government provided security and protection?


41 posted on 10/15/2007 8:25:40 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: neverdem

Sad.

This is how Western Civilization Ends.

Not with a terrorist war, but with cultural suicide by over indulgence.

In just one more generation, all these single 30 something’s will be alone, unmarried, childless, broke, and on the government mandated health care they voted for, which will then bankrupt the nation or worse... the immigrants who are now the only ones working, will refuse to pay for and then euthanize the old childless population that is trying to live off of the labor of the new population.


42 posted on 10/15/2007 8:28:12 AM PDT by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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To: RachelFaith
"It is almost a law of history that the same wealth that generates a civilization announces its decay. For wealth produce ease as well as art; it softens a people to the ways of luxury and peace and invites invasion from stronger arms and hungrier mouths."

-- Will Durant
43 posted on 10/15/2007 8:30:21 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: John Valentine

Its the main character in the show “sex and the city”.. played by Sarah Jessica Parker.. she’s basically your typical self absorbed urban 30 something woman. Career, independent, educated, and frankly one of the last personalities on earth I’d want to have any sort of relationship with.

Not evil, just more than well used, and world view that’s just too warped for me to view as being my wife or mother of my children.


44 posted on 10/15/2007 8:30:45 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Goodness

My biggest problem with her is her makeup is almost horribly done and the outfits they put her in on that show were horrendous. I don’t think she’s ugly, just someone needs to fire her makeup artist... she always has way way way too much eyeshadow and rouge on.


45 posted on 10/15/2007 8:31:56 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Humvee
Is she related to John Kerry?

No! She has better hair.

46 posted on 10/15/2007 8:38:26 AM PDT by reg45
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To: BraveMan; FBD; bert
"Is this just the latest example of American cultural imperialism? Or is it the triumph of planetary feminism? The globalization of the SYF reflects a series of stunning demographic and economic shifts that are pointing much of the world—with important exceptions, including Africa and most of the Middle East—toward a New Girl Order."

Was watching a football game Sunday when an ad ran for a movie.
Had the volume turned off, but, here's what I saw.
A tall, svelt, dark haired & quite gorgeous female dressed in a one piece black leather (Naugahyde?) jumpsuit outfit who'd apparently lost a leg to bad *guys*, sometime, somewhere. Here's the pay-line about this *Super Woman*: her stump was fitted with a machine gun in lieu of a *peg*!!!

I could only imagine what the superwoman was going to do with her peg-leg-machine gun, or, who she was going to slaughter while evening-up the score.
Unbelievable.

"It’s a man’s world, James Brown always reminded us."

Well thank God.
At least the brainstem/scribe writing this pablum found the consummate authority to quote. :o)

"But if these trends continue, not so much."

Wait'll these females made neurotic by this bilge begin showing up in public, pick on the wrong man and in-turn find themselves picking their teeth up off the ground.

Then again.

...there's that peg-leg-machine gun. ;^)

47 posted on 10/15/2007 8:42:38 AM PDT by Landru (finally made it to the dark side of the moon.)
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To: r9etb

I don’t find her attractive. I’m surprized so many do...


48 posted on 10/15/2007 8:47:02 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: RachelFaith
This is how Western Civilization Ends.

Modernity is a self-limiting affliction. Affluence and technology are a great thing for a few generations, then the bill must be paid. The Japanese think that robots are the answer to a declining population / work force. Maybe. Maybe not. The problem is that modernity's principal concomitant is spiritual dessication. That underlies the implicit vote of no confidence in the future. The United States is better positioned because, with all the blandishments of modernity, there is still a strong and powerful religiously-inspired population.

49 posted on 10/15/2007 8:48:10 AM PDT by ZeitgeistSurfer (Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese.)
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To: puroresu

Pretty little peahens, spending their days preening and decorating their pens.


50 posted on 10/15/2007 8:57:22 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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