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Live Thread: Halsey and Bonnie Frost on Countdown with Keith Olbermann 8 p.m. EDT 10/15/07
Monday, October 15, 2007 | Kristinn

Posted on 10/15/2007 4:51:49 PM PDT by kristinn

Initial reports over the weekend were that 12 year old boy Graeme Frost was going to walk point yet again for the Democrats on Countdown tonight. However, MSNBC informs us that his parents, Halsey and Bonnie Frost, are stepping up to the plate, sort of. They're going on with Softball with Keith Olbermann.

From the Countdown blog at MSNBC:

Tonight we'll have the parents of the child who started a thousand smears. You remember Graeme Frost, the 12-year-old boy who was held up as an example of someone whom S-CHIP would be a great help to and who the radical right wing decided to smear. Tonight Keith will sit down with his parents and get their real story.

Also we'll have much more on the Thomas Ricks article that led the Washington Post this morning...if we've beaten Al Qaeda in Iraq, why don't we get out? Did we beat Al Qaeda in Iraq? Lots of questions...we'll have answers tonight.

Plus...we'll have an in depth discussion regarding Rudy Giuliani's comments that he would keep America safe from an Extra Terrestrial attack. All that and a preview of Matt Lauer's exclusive interview with Senator Larry Craig (yeah, we got him!). It's must see TV, kids!

It may be too late for the Frosts, however. The Democrats are rolling out a new S-CHIP family. And this time they swear they're truly needy. From the Politico:

Democrats profile another SCHIP family

Michelle Malkin, meet Bethany Wilkerson.

Bethany is the latest child being profiled by Democrats arguing for an override of President Bush's veto of the State Children's Health Insurance Program bill.

Malkin, the conservative blogger, made waves last week when she investigated the finances of Graeme Frost's family after 12-year-old Graeme, an SCHIP recipient, gave the Democratic radio address. While conservative bloggers mounted a campaign to dig around in the Frost family's life and question the policies that led the family to subsidized health care, liberals pushed back.

This week, Democrats have brought forth the Wilkerson family, whose two-year old daughter Bethany is covered by SCHIP and had life-saving heart surgery when she was an infant. On Monday the Wilkerson family held a conference call, sponsored by USAction, a liberal grassroots advocacy group lobbying in favor of the $35 billion SCHIP expansion.

For the record, the Bo and Dara Wilkerson say they make $34,000 in combined income from restaurant jobs in St. Petersburg, Fla. They rent their house and the couple owns one car, which Bo calls "a junker." Malkin and other bloggers have revealed over the past week that the Frost family owned two properties, as well as a couple cars, and had a $45,000 income. The accusation against Democrats, and by extension the Frost family, is that they are too middle class to be granted any subsidized health insurance for their children.

The Wilkersons said they are fully aware of the possibility that their finances and personal lives may be investigated by opponents of the SCHIP bill.

"We rent a house, we have one car that is a junker. Let them dig away," Bo Wilkerson said. "I have $67 in my checking account. Does that answer your question?"

The Wilkersons will participate in an SCHIP rally in Washington on Tuesday, plan to lobby several House offices on Wednesday, and will be in the House chamber for the override vote on Thursday. They also plan to appear with Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) at a press conference.?i>

All of this effort, including using children on SCHIP to promote the expansion of the program, seems unlikely to change any votes in the House, where Democrats are still well short of an override. Stay tuned to see if bloggers pick up on the Wilkerson family story.

Those of us at FR are still looking for that penumbra emanating from the Constitution that says federally funded health care is authorized. In the meantime, watch the Democrats' human shields for nationalized health care in action tonight on MSNBC at 8 p.m. EDT.

P.S. Check out these two threads about national health in Britain:

Dental Patients Pull Out Own Teeth

and

Nurses Did Not Wash Hands, Blamed for Deaths of 90 British Patients

The Freeper report that started it all:

The Not So Poor 12 Year Old Who Rebutted Bush on SCHIP Veto


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: 110th; graemefrost; icwhatudo; schip
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1 posted on 10/15/2007 4:51:52 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: icwhatudo

Troublemaker.


2 posted on 10/15/2007 4:52:17 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

“Troublemaker.”

HA!!!!!!!!!


3 posted on 10/15/2007 4:53:26 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Tracking The Flyin' Imams Since 11/20/06)
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To: kristinn

Wrong there, Keith bin Olberman - it was Harry Reid that launched a thousand smears - one of which is currently going for $47,000+ on eBay.


4 posted on 10/15/2007 4:54:20 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: kristinn
So what does this mean? The Democrats are taking a Mulligan and now trotting out the Wilkerson family instead?

-PJ

5 posted on 10/15/2007 4:55:58 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: kristinn

So Mr. Frost is still trying to find excuses as to why I need to be taxed to pay for his kids. Sad.


6 posted on 10/15/2007 4:56:02 PM PDT by linn37 (code word laconic)
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To: kristinn

Ain’t it funny - they’re parading around these $43,000/year people - why aren’t they parading around the 26-year-old who makes $80,000 a year that they wanted to infuse with free healthcare under SCHIP???


7 posted on 10/15/2007 4:56:05 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: linn37

What I don’t understand is why my elderly parents have to be taxed to pay for this guy’s kids?


8 posted on 10/15/2007 4:57:17 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: kristinn

Looks like the Frost’s quarter-hour of fame is over...

Moonbats kicked to the curb.


9 posted on 10/15/2007 4:57:45 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: muawiyah

So they can feel better about themselves. ;^)


10 posted on 10/15/2007 4:59:36 PM PDT by linn37 (code word laconic)
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To: linn37
Doesn't make my folks feel better to pay taxes ~ if I asked my mom I know she'd say that grown man ought to get a job and take care of his family.

Her voice would quiver and quake a little bit, send me out to cut a switch to cut the back of his legs Fur Shur.

Anyway, I'm not going to bother her with this puke.

11 posted on 10/15/2007 5:04:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: kristinn

Democrats use the plight of the unfortunate to justify Unconstitional Federal spending paid for by theft from taxpayers for the sole purpose of gaining/keeping political power. If that’s not pure, shameless evil, then what is?


12 posted on 10/15/2007 5:07:18 PM PDT by sourcery (Referring a "social conservative" to the Ninth Amendment is like showing the Cross to Dracula.)
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To: muawiyah

Tuned in, now it’s that girly soldier John Soltz


13 posted on 10/15/2007 5:09:02 PM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: txflake

Jon Soltz is politically invested in America’s defeat.


14 posted on 10/15/2007 5:11:50 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: Old Sarge
Looks like the Frost’s quarter-hour of fame is over... Moonbats kicked to the curb.

I think alot of moonbats will be kicked to the curb by November "08".

But we're gonna be here to remind everyone of the dem moonbat relationship;)

15 posted on 10/15/2007 5:12:45 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: muawiyah

Not so your parents can feel better about themselves, so the people promoting the bill can feel better about themselves. They could care less about your parents.


16 posted on 10/15/2007 5:15:17 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: kristinn

He looked like RuPaul dressed him.


17 posted on 10/15/2007 5:16:24 PM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: mdittmar

Would that I shared in your optimism, because there is one thing standing in the way: the stupidity of the American people.


18 posted on 10/15/2007 5:17:09 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


19 posted on 10/15/2007 5:20:10 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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To: Old Sarge

I can’t watch this crap. Somebody ping me when the Frosts show up.


20 posted on 10/15/2007 5:20:34 PM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: kristinn
The Wilkersons will participate in an SCHIP rally in Washington on Tuesday, plan to lobby several House offices on Wednesday

Mr. Wilkerson to Representatives: "Please send in federal agents to take the money I need for my family!"

21 posted on 10/15/2007 5:25:10 PM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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To: txflake

Ping!


22 posted on 10/15/2007 5:32:28 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

So now I’ve called for the boy to die-unbelievable...


23 posted on 10/15/2007 5:34:11 PM PDT by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: icwhatudo

Easily disproved???? LOL


24 posted on 10/15/2007 5:34:36 PM PDT by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: kristinn
The wifey almost has her ugly breast tattoo covered.
25 posted on 10/15/2007 5:35:32 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: kristinn
The Wilkersons will participate in an SCHIP rally in Washington on Tuesday, plan to lobby several House offices on Wednesday, and will be in the House chamber for the override vote on Thursday. They also plan to appear with Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) at a press conference.

So who is paying for the trip from Florida and the hotel in DC? USAction? (Run by union, NOW, MoveOn.org alumni.) Why don't they pay for the family's health insurance (and the Frosts') instead?

26 posted on 10/15/2007 5:36:29 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: icwhatudo

That was not you saying that. That was from the supposedly higher-class Red State website.


27 posted on 10/15/2007 5:37:10 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: icwhatudo
People like you exist in America?

lol

28 posted on 10/15/2007 5:37:23 PM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: icwhatudo
Now Mr. Frost is dissin' you, "faceless people, hiding their real names" ...
29 posted on 10/15/2007 5:39:39 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: kristinn

30 posted on 10/15/2007 5:40:35 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: icwhatudo

Frostworks 1990-1998/1999 Folded up

Yet he claimed to be president until 2000 on his resume. Not to be picky but since every word of mine is picked apart... Baltimore Sun confirms he is CURRENTLY self employed.


“Scholarships mostly”

Another confirmation they are paying for private school. Yep, not the 20,000, but they are paying.


Ummmmm, so do you own a commercial property with at least 2 tennants Mr. Frost?

Did a home that was a few doors down sell for 485k that was also an end unit like yours (and was 1000sf smaller)?


31 posted on 10/15/2007 5:40:46 PM PDT by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: tgslTakoma

American LOSERS! Selfish and crooked...nice tat!

32 posted on 10/15/2007 5:41:01 PM PDT by GRRRRR (The Libtards are spoiling for a big fight!)
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To: icwhatudo

So do you own 3 SUV’s?


33 posted on 10/15/2007 5:41:27 PM PDT by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: icwhatudo
Sad what the kids went through, no doubt about it. But mom and dad should have made responsible decisions on where they "invested" their money.

And tattoos should have been last on the "important, must haves" until the kids had medical coverage.

34 posted on 10/15/2007 5:41:57 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: kristinn
Olbermann refers to FR as the "lunatic, fringe website" and its members a "group of sociopaths"
35 posted on 10/15/2007 5:42:50 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: icwhatudo
They own 100K worth of vehicles.

There are two drivers, one car can be sold, buy insurance for 10 or more years.

36 posted on 10/15/2007 5:45:34 PM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: icwhatudo

So what is their problem with purchasing health insurance?

Haven’t they had it since their kids were born?


37 posted on 10/15/2007 5:49:15 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: roses of sharon

Exactly. If they paid cash for four deliveries - not c-sections - that alone is 20K. C-sections, make that 40K.


38 posted on 10/15/2007 5:51:53 PM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: tgslTakoma
Once again I ask anyone to cut and paste any attack I made on this child. Cherry picking redstate quotes does nothing to the facts I found.

Look Again At The Frost Facts...And Don't Back Down

Funny how they claim people are diverting attention away from the issue... when thats exactly whats being done with the "stop attacking the child" stuff. The issue is what types of families CURRENTLY qualify for SCHIP, and do we need to expand to to people with higher incomes and assets.

39 posted on 10/15/2007 5:52:02 PM PDT by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: kristinn

I’m sorry the Wilkerson’s life is tough. But what right do they have to demand others pay for their medical needs?
And, if he has $67 in the bank how can he afford to travel to Washington, attend hearings, march in protests, pose for photo ops etc.? I guess they don’t have to be at work.
So who is footing the bill? Who pays for the hotel rooms, the cars, the meals, etc?
Just read the tag line. The communists never left, they just took over the legislature.


40 posted on 10/15/2007 5:55:18 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: icwhatudo

A way to do a credible interview would have been to ask the Frosts if they think S-CHIP should be means tested. Another question would be do they think its fair to ask taxpayers to subsidize a family with over $400,000 in property, three SUVs and which has chosen to send their children to private schools on partial scholarships. One more would be to ask Halsey Frost why a man with his skills and experience doesn’t get a job with a remodeling company. The Baltimore-Washington area is filled with houses that folks pay top dollar to renovate or upgrade. Instead of being a stay-at-home handyman he could be pulling in good money and getting company paid health insurance for his family. A meanie question would be why he and his wife believe the taxpayers should subsidize their lifestyle choices.


41 posted on 10/15/2007 5:56:16 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: TheDon

I have not seen the Dems parade out a family/child that they think should be covered by SCHIP but can not get covered. So far, all they are showing us is how well the program is taking care of the constituency that it was designed to take care of.


42 posted on 10/15/2007 5:57:50 PM PDT by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: icwhatudo

The entire Left machine is selling the “attack on a 12 year old” which will (or has already) become accepted fact.

Yesterday Howie Kurtz’s show which exists to discuss the MEDIA used this reference. So he was lying in his premise, while he was pretending to be discussing other reportage.


43 posted on 10/15/2007 6:01:44 PM PDT by maica (Where will Americans go for treatment, when we get a Canadian-style “free” healthcare system?)
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To: icwhatudo
Understood.

The issue, as you (and most all of the rest of us on FR and elsewhere) have been writing, is that people of means - and owning $100,000 worth of vehicles, a half-million dollars worth of real estate, and a gourmet kitchen for daddy and body art for mommy, qualifies this couple as people of means - should be responsible for securing health insurance for their families.

Any government-subsidized child health care program should only be made available to truly poor families, and not folks who have chosen to blow their money on creature comforts. The Frost parents chose to have four children. Their first responsibility as parents is to provide for their needs first, and not tattoos and SUVs to feed the adults' egos.

44 posted on 10/15/2007 6:02:07 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: GRRRRR

Is that a stylized marijuana leaf?


45 posted on 10/15/2007 6:02:31 PM PDT by maica (Where will Americans go for treatment, when we get a Canadian-style “free” healthcare system?)
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To: IrishCatholic

Apparently about 240 families will be in DC this week, visiting congressmen on the day the override vote is set. They ALL have been financed to participate in this “activism.” The Activists of the Left are getting REALLY aggressive, and it is happening without publicity because the Left also control mass media.


46 posted on 10/15/2007 6:05:47 PM PDT by maica (Where will Americans go for treatment, when we get a Canadian-style “free” healthcare system?)
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To: hole_n_one
Almost heaven

West Virginia......

47 posted on 10/15/2007 6:06:42 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: kristinn

Not much of an interview but still some interesting tidbits about the private school, that they are being helped but no mention of full scholarships or only paying $500. The MSM throwing up scholarships raised more questions: Why is this posh private school raiding the Baltimore public schools for middle class white kids by giving them scholarships? The obvious likely answer is that these “scholarships” are earmarked for those particular children and why and by whom?

Halsey’s saying that they shouldn’t be punished for remodeling the house because he has these special skills to do that himself -— He could use those skills to work for money, too.

The piece brought up that if they’d had to pay for their children’s medical care, they’d have lost their house (and the 3 automobiles, too, maybe). Possibly but that is surely the purpose of insurance. People go on Medicaid every day because their money runs out and the government would like everyone to have long term care insurance because nursing homes are so expensive to the government. Kind of a contradiction in message here.

Also on the assault on “bloggers” and “posters” -— the folks at dailykos should take note. First they come for Michelle Malkin and then they come for you. (Actually, theres been MSM attacks on dailykos already and they were rightly outraged about it.)


48 posted on 10/15/2007 6:11:47 PM PDT by OneCitizen
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To: jennyjenny

The Dems thought they had a needy West Virginia family. They didn’t know they had folks of apparently independent means, and pedigrees, because Dems always think in terms of group identity instead of individual people.


49 posted on 10/15/2007 6:12:17 PM PDT by maica (Where will Americans go for treatment, when we get a Canadian-style “free” healthcare system?)
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To: jennyjenny

If somebody would mix John Denver and Gilligan you’d have Mr. Frost.


50 posted on 10/15/2007 6:16:27 PM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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