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Posted on 10/16/2007 4:18:29 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Pelosi: Radio attacks on boy unfair

By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent 53 minutes ago

Seeking support for a vetoed children's health insurance bill, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi charged Tuesday that "hate radio has made a vicious attack" on a 12-year-old Baltimore boy who receives coverage through the program.

Pelosi said the allegations were "beneath the dignity of the debate" that surrounds the legislation.

Democrats hope to enact the measure over Bush's opposition, and a House vote scheduled for Thursday. A two-thirds vote in both houses of Congress is required to override a veto, and supporters of the measure appear well short of their goal in the House.

Speaking at a news conference attended by singer Paul Simon, Pelosi, D-Calif., did not identify the targets of her criticism by name. Numerous conservative commentators in recent days have questioned whether the 12-year-old boy, Graeme Frost should qualify for the program for lower-income children.

Democrats enlisted Frost to speak on a recent weekly radio program, where he said the children's insurance program allowed him to get medical help after suffering brain injuries in an automobile accident.

"I just hope the president will listen to my story and help other kids be as lucky as me," he said at the time.

One blog, Free Republic.com, posted a report that said Frost attended a private school where tuition was $20,000 a year, that the family lives in an area where one home recently sold for nearly $500,000, and that a photo and "shows what appears to be a recent remodeling job with granite counter tops and glass-front cabinets."

Radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh also commented. "This family owns a house in a neighborhood of homes valued in the 400,000 to 500,000 range," he said on Oct. 8.

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such nonsense...........
1 posted on 10/16/2007 4:18:31 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

“beneath the dignity of the debate”

heheheheeee...


2 posted on 10/16/2007 4:22:44 PM PDT by battlecry
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To: Sub-Driver

It used to be that real reporters, when confronted with conflicting stories, would go out and find the truth and report it, along with who lied. No more, I guess.


3 posted on 10/16/2007 4:23:54 PM PDT by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: Sub-Driver
The boy is not under attack. His parents’ sense of responsibility is under attack as are the motives of the RATs who put forth that family from obscurity into the spotlight for their own partisan ends. I don’t recall anyone saying the boy should not receive medical care or a decent education - simply questioning why the taxpayers should foot the bill when the parents have the means to pay for it themselves.
4 posted on 10/16/2007 4:24:05 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: Sub-Driver

Dems & their media lapdogs never address the facts...absolutely pathetic.


5 posted on 10/16/2007 4:25:35 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Tagline Removed By Moderator)
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To: Sub-Driver
Who exactly does this b!tch think still believes anything that she says?

LLS

6 posted on 10/16/2007 4:26:08 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: icwhatudo

ping


7 posted on 10/16/2007 4:26:32 PM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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To: Sub-Driver

I have yet to read anything by anyone attacking this boy.


8 posted on 10/16/2007 4:27:12 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: dynachrome

What millennia was that? So-called “journalists” have always had a bias and an axe to grind. It’s just easier to see now that we have alternative sources of information (i.e., blogs, FR, talk radio, etc..)


9 posted on 10/16/2007 4:27:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Security * Unity * Prosperity | Fred08.com)
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To: Sub-Driver
The boy’s family created this mess. Is it not strange that telling the truth is considered an attack? What does this say about Pelosi and her ilk?
10 posted on 10/16/2007 4:28:24 PM PDT by Ferox
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ha. I tried to think of some names so I could defend my post. I couldn’t!


11 posted on 10/16/2007 4:29:03 PM PDT by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: Sub-Driver

SCHIP recipients have not been harmed by this.

Nancee Pelosee


12 posted on 10/16/2007 4:29:20 PM PDT by sappy
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To: Sub-Driver

Maybe Nancy should ask why these residents of Baltimore feel compelled to send their kids to private schools? If they sent them to public schools, they could afford health insurance. Maybe there are problems in the public schools that need to be addressed.


13 posted on 10/16/2007 4:29:28 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Pelosi’s talking Turkey, Oh WAit.........


14 posted on 10/16/2007 4:30:15 PM PDT by cmsgop (Hillary's Milkshake is better than Your's, She could teach you, but you would rather go blind.......)
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To: Sub-Driver
Paul Simon is a Liberal?
15 posted on 10/16/2007 4:30:16 PM PDT by wastedyears (I don't wanna grow up, help : /)
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To: wastedyears

Yes coke head Paul Simon is a Liberal.


16 posted on 10/16/2007 4:31:33 PM PDT by bmwcyle (BOMB, BOMB, BOMB,.......BOMB, BOMB IRAN)
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To: Sub-Driver

They are collectively setting their sights on any forum that would DARE question their policies. And will they ever get it right? FR is not a blog. sheesh.

Anything to distract, discredit and denigrate those opposed to their tack, that is the weasel war cry. They are pitiful.

I expect a lot of ‘administrative’ work will have to be done here over the next year or so to deal with increased riffraff traffic. Expect a lot of malevolent visitors, who will be laying for the offhand comment or anything they can run with.


17 posted on 10/16/2007 4:33:45 PM PDT by SueRae
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To: Sub-Driver

Democrata fight like mooslim men, they hide behind women and children and cry don’t attack me.


18 posted on 10/16/2007 4:33:46 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Sub-Driver
Pelosi said the allegations were "beneath the dignity of the debate

Of course they are b/c she doesn't want for everyone to know the dirty little secret: that there are a lot of families in the Frost's position who qualify for SCHIPs precisely b/c of a child's diagnosis (and for many I'm talking "minor" ailments such as 'speech delayed')....the Frost family is NOT the only family getting government paid for health care while living in a half a million dollar house. You would think a real journalist would be looking into that little aspect of this story but they won't...they have an agenda and its name is socialized medicine.
19 posted on 10/16/2007 4:35:47 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: wastedyears

I’d guess that about 95% of the popular musicians are Liberals, along with about 95% of the entertainers. You have to really search to find a conservative in these waters.


20 posted on 10/16/2007 4:35:55 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (I want a hero....I'm holding out for a hero (politically))
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To: NonValueAdded
I don’t recall anyone saying the boy should not receive medical care or a decent education - simply questioning why the taxpayers should foot the bill when the parents have the means to pay for it themselves.

I believe the issue is not that the parents should pay for the care themselves, but that they could have afforded health insurance premiums BEFORE the accident. If they had accepted that responsibility and thought of the consequences of a severe accident on the family, they maybe would have deferred some lifestyle purchases.

When I began doing independent consulting and my health insurance carry-over period had expired, I had a decision to make. Because I had a minor occurrence of skin cancer, I couldn't get reasonably priced coverage from BC-BS. NM has a state program which is very costly and has a high deductible. I made a choice to sign up for that because as a middle-aged man with a history of heart disease in the family, I felt I could not take the chance of being hospitalized without coverage, especially for something major. I went that way for two years until I joined another company that provided me with insurance coverage. I never needed to use the state program, but it was reassuring to have it. It's about taking responsibility for yourself and your family.

21 posted on 10/16/2007 4:36:14 PM PDT by CedarDave (The only access Hillary-care will bring is access to a waiting list.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Anyone see a pattern? Clinton, Gore and Kerry all used phony human props to cite their position on health care insurance.


During John Kerry's nomination acceptance speech during the 2004 DNC, he trotted out his health insurance "poster child", Mary Ann Knowles. Kerry stated that she had to "keep working day after day right through her chemotherapy, no matter how sick she felt, because she was terrified of losing her family's health insurance". In reality, she had excellent coverage with 26 weeks of paid disability leave, but she chose to work through most of her treatment because her husband was unemployed.

Video of Kerry's Speech

Links to story on FR


Al Gore tried this same tactic in 2000 with Winifred Skinner.

Al Gore said, "It brings tears to your eyes. Here's this adorable, elderly woman out in Iowa who's so sick and so poor, that in order to pay for medicines she needs to stay alive, she has to scavenge in a local dump yard for cast-off tin cans."

"She gets a small pension," he said. "But in order to pay for her prescription drug benefits she has to go out seven days a week, several hours a day, picking up cans."

It turns out, as the statement was rectified, Mrs. Skinner goes out zero days a week, for zero hours a day, and that she was only speaking "in the name of" people she assumes must do this.


In 1994, Hillary Clinton used Kathy Bush when citing her case as an example of the high cost of medical care.



Later, investigators found the mother guilty of intentionally making her daughter sick and forcing her to undergo more than 40 needless surgeries, in what prosecutors called a case of Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy.

“Forty-two-year old Kathy Bush had been charged with aggravated child abuse and fraud for bilking thousands of dollars from the State of Florida for medical expenses incurred by her daughter, Jennifer. The mother faces up to 45 years in prison.”

Link

22 posted on 10/16/2007 4:36:53 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: Ferox

Throwing out victims again, to pull at the heart strings.


23 posted on 10/16/2007 4:37:19 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Jim Robinson

another example of the MSM monitoring the web site.......


24 posted on 10/16/2007 4:39:55 PM PDT by Sub-Driver (Proud member of the Republican wing of the Republican Party)
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To: upchuck; long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; Lynne; hocndoc
Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this ping list.
25 posted on 10/16/2007 4:41:09 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: RobbyS
Throwing out victims again, to pull at the heart strings.

And nevermind that the victims aren't really victims of anything other than the unfairness of life and some poor decisions. We should still foot their bills and feel bad about our own successes, whether because of our hard work, the hand of providence and our good choices.

26 posted on 10/16/2007 4:42:07 PM PDT by the808bass
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To: DocRock

Your post rocks, Doc. Thanks for the documentation.


27 posted on 10/16/2007 4:45:04 PM PDT by Quilla
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To: Sub-Driver
No Nancy, the attack was on you lying Marxists who USED a 12 year old child, with the consent of his liberal lying parents, to LIE about the reasons they do not have health insurance. FAIR??? Don’t let the door hit you in your lying ass on the way out of the door bitch. You and your lying Marxists party of anti-war socialist crybaby liberals global warming hoax whining liars can go rot in hell.
28 posted on 10/16/2007 4:46:19 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (The Marxists Dimocrats & Bush are destroying America. America is dying slowly, but surely.)
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To: TheDon
One blog, Free Republic.com, posted a report that said Frost attended a private school where tuition was $20,000 a year,

Which is true.

that the family lives in an area where one home recently sold for nearly $500,000,

Which is true

and that a photo and "shows what appears to be a recent remodeling job

Which is true

with granite counter tops

FALSE-They were concrete which is the same or MORE expensive than granite.

and glass-front cabinets."

Which is true.

29 posted on 10/16/2007 4:46:31 PM PDT by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: battlecry

Liberals have no dignity and know no shame. Liberals only get upset when they get caught lying and/or distorting the truth. All Liberals fear is exposure, exposure, exposure. Lying, distorting, and dirty politics is the center piece of the Liberal creed. Pelosi’s approval numbers are in the toilet bowl and yet she pretends that what she says is relevant. IMO, she’s delusional.


30 posted on 10/16/2007 4:47:44 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: icwhatudo
Look Again At The Frost Facts...And Don't Back Down
31 posted on 10/16/2007 4:48:14 PM PDT by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: Sub-Driver

I think the issue here was that these people qualified for the program as it is ... so why does it need expanding?


32 posted on 10/16/2007 4:48:16 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: DocRock

Excellent post - bookmarked - thank you!


33 posted on 10/16/2007 4:48:44 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Sub-Driver
They could have afforded health insurance for at least their kids and probably should have had enough car insurance for accidents so a lack of planning on their part doesn’t constitute an emergency on the taxpayers part.
34 posted on 10/16/2007 4:49:03 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Sub-Driver

Except that they weren’t attacking the boy. They were attacking the Democrats.


35 posted on 10/16/2007 4:50:32 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Sub-Driver

Paul Simon should sit down and STFU.


36 posted on 10/16/2007 4:51:14 PM PDT by csvset
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Pelosi calls conservative radio talk “Hate Radio.” I wonder what she calls Air America??
37 posted on 10/16/2007 4:51:28 PM PDT by mfish13
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To: wastedyears

Happy late birthday.


38 posted on 10/16/2007 4:54:12 PM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: Sub-Driver
A 50K house bought in 1990 is now worth 400 - 500k? Ok, I could believe that ... but before I buy into the lie ... I would like to see a picture of the house.

Any body got access to pics?

39 posted on 10/16/2007 4:56:00 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: the808bass
If the GOP had any brains, it would do some commercials that make clear that the RATS are trying to victimize the taxpayers.

For ex, how about a spot starring a nonworking 25-year old who lives with his parents--who have an income of $80,000/year. He could say how great the bill is because if it goes into effect he won't have to get a job in order to have health insurance. That's why he loves the RAT party. It lets him sponge off the taxpayer even though his family has plenty of money.

40 posted on 10/16/2007 4:56:38 PM PDT by freespirited (I'm voting for the GOP nominee.)
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To: wastedyears
Paul Simon is a Liberal?

Yeah, pretty disappointing, isn't it? I always thought he was really smart. Oh well.

41 posted on 10/16/2007 4:56:45 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: mfish13

I dont know what Pelosi calls it but I call it Airhead America.


42 posted on 10/16/2007 4:57:31 PM PDT by freespirited (I'm voting for the GOP nominee.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I believe our vicious attack (and yes it is indeed a vicious attack) is on the hateful liars in the democrat party that are using innocent children as puppets for political deception.


43 posted on 10/16/2007 4:59:43 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: popdonnelly

Its called a “strawman” in debate terms.


44 posted on 10/16/2007 5:03:35 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Sub-Driver; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; Grampa Dave
Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton invite unscrupulous chiselers to splurge on kitchen remodels in their tony townhouses while taxpayer-patsies pick up the tab for their tots' owies.

Graeme Frost and the perils of Democrat poster child abuse Updated

45 posted on 10/16/2007 5:05:36 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


46 posted on 10/16/2007 5:05:38 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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To: socialismisinsidious

looks like it’s too late for that. Fox News had a poll this afternoon and 52% agreed with Bush’s stance on the matter.


47 posted on 10/16/2007 5:06:33 PM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: Sub-Driver

It IS nonsense. Rush clarified it today on the radio about them NOT needing it. pellohsseeeee what a dip.


48 posted on 10/16/2007 5:07:05 PM PDT by cubreporter (Rush has done more for this country than any of us will ever know and is STILL wowing us!!!)
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To: Lancey Howard
"Paul Simon is a Liberal?" Yeah, pretty disappointing, isn't it? I always thought he was really smart. Oh well.

It's possible to be a musical and lyrical genius, a fabulous artist, and then to remain a complete political and economic moron. I try to overlook that with some of my favorites, but it is so hard. Simon I've followed for four decades. I'll give him some slack. But Pelosi I'll not tolerate.

49 posted on 10/16/2007 5:07:26 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: Tarpon
"I think the issue here was that these people qualified for the program as it is ... so why does it need expanding?"

Because the "lovable goofball" dad Halsey Frost can't hold down a steady job. But the "lovable goofball" has time to father 4 kids. And the "lovable goofball" has time to fly to washington for a week to let his kid tape commercials for the DNC and pose for pictures with liberal congresspeople. But don't ask the "lovable goofball" to put in 40 hours of work per week. And don't dare ask the "lovable goofball" to pay a thin dime for his kids insurance. No sir, that's someone ELSE'S job.

50 posted on 10/16/2007 5:07:45 PM PDT by boop (Who doesn't love poison pot pies?)
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