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John Kerry's time is coming — again (Projectile hurl alert)
The Politico ^ | October 16, 2007 | Elizabeth Wilner

Posted on 10/16/2007 5:54:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s a burning question no one is asking: Whither John F. Kerry?

He is his party’s most recent presidential nominee. He came tantalizingly close to winning. And yet no one is looking for him to put his stamp on the 2008 Democratic primary or wondering aloud who he’ll endorse — even though Al Gore campaign manager Donna Brazile says that in the early-state contests, “most of the voters would be thrilled to know who Kerry would back and why.”

But the lack of an audible clamor for an endorsement by Kerry is more than a bit deceiving, as is the perception that he’s still wandering around in that wilderness to which all losing Democratic nominees are cast. The two top candidates who aren’t married to Elizabeth Edwards are quietly seeking his advice and support. An associate suggests that Kerry may hold off on endorsing until closer to the primaries, but when he does make his choice, that candidate will get access to a 3-million-name e-mail list, possibly the largest in the party.

When a Defense Department official accused Hillary Rodham Clinton of “reinforcing enemy propaganda” after she asked the Pentagon to start preparing for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, the Kerry associate says it was the Clinton team’s idea to have Kerry out front denouncing that accusation.

Kerry’s road back from the ashes of 2004 has been studded with self-inflicted setbacks. Ultimately, it won’t be as triumphant as Gore’s.

But nor will it take as long — and there are growing signs that the events of the post-2004 period have granted Kerry at least the right to say, “I told you so.”

For four years after winning the race but losing the presidency, Gore could do nothing right. He ignored his loyalists, got bloated and sweaty, embraced the unruly anti-war left and threw his support behind their 2004 presidential candidate, who then imploded spectacularly.

Kerry’s vindication is coming quicker, if more quietly. His party already has embraced his position on Iraq. His argument that no military solution exists for the situation there is now the de facto Democratic stance. In June 2006, when Kerry helped force a vote on a phased U.S. troop withdrawal, his colleagues gave him a serious razzing and only 13 votes. Just over one year later, this past July, the same measure got 52.

Delaware Sen. Joe Biden recently sang Kerry’s praises during the Senate floor debate over Biden’s proposed “soft partition” of Iraq: “I wish to tell him how grateful I am for his joining in this amendment ... because an awful lot of people around the world look to my colleague for his insights into what we do about the most critical issue facing American foreign policy today.”

The Bush administration recently achieved a new nuclear pact with North Korea by using the approach Kerry advocated in 2004. The Washington Post noted on Oct. 4, “The agreement was reached after bilateral negotiations between the United States and North Korea, held in parallel with the six-nation talks, just as Kerry had suggested.”

And then there’s Kerry’s long record on the enviro— OK, never mind.

The trick for Kerry is to keep his head down. He is still too-easy fodder for late-night one-liners, the swift-boated flip-flopper with a knack for disconnecting from people.

He may never lose his uncanny ability to make things worse for himself. Not only did he commit the sin in Democrats’ eyes of leaving George W. Bush standing on the field, but he also left $12 million in the bank unspent, subjecting himself to allegations that he didn’t give it his all. (Bush had money left over, too, but as Kerry aide David Wade says, “The bad moments only get remembered if you lose.”)

Then, after a laudable effort to help elect Democratic candidates in 2006 — the kind of effort Gore didn’t undertake after his loss in 2000 — came one botched joke about U.S. troops serving in Iraq. Donations of $14 million and visits to 35 states were instantly obscured a week before Election Day. The blowback was so severe that a few months later, Kerry had to exit the 2008 field before he really entered it.

His recovery has since been gaffe-free. Not coincidentally, his Senate colleagues who hope to trace his steps to the Democratic nomination seem to be recognizing the assets he brings to the table.

Which is the flip side of the swift-boat coin: The tactic may have damaged Kerry’s own chances in 2004, but his support could help inoculate other Democratic candidates against similar efforts to impugn their patriotism in 2008.

He also brings brass to the table — not only his own Vietnam service but also a small army of veteran supporters built during his presidential campaign and his efforts to support veterans who ran for office in 2006.

And Kerry projects something else the Democratic nominee may need, whoever he or she may be: masculinity. Of course, it is an effete, wet-suited masculinity compared to Bush’s frat-boy, towel-snapping version. But it’s a trait that is absent from the top of the Democratic field where, despite Barack Obama’s fondness for pickup basketball, none of the candidates is really known for being a guy.

Kerry’s assets are not inconsiderable given that the current president plans to hand off the Iraq war to his successor and the top Republican candidates seem to be lifting the weak-on-terror charge from the Bush campaign playbook. It seems unlikely that between 2004 and 2008, the need for Democrats to show some trappings of strength will just disappear.

Maybe not worth a Nobel Prize, but certainly worth a little respect.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: algore; barackhusseinobama; barackobama; defeatocrats; democratparty; democrats; dhimmicrats; election2004; electionpresident; flipflop; frenchie; georgebush; gigilo; gop; hillary; hillaryclinton; iraq; janefonda; johnkerry; joncary; karlrove; loser; obama; oh2004; presidentbush; purpleheart; republicans; sbvft; senate; swiftboats; teresaheinzkerry; vietnam; vietnamveterans; vietnamwar; wintersoldier; wot
I needed a good laugh!
1 posted on 10/16/2007 5:54:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He came tantalizingly close to winning.

ROFLMAO
2 posted on 10/16/2007 5:55:27 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


"Bring it on!"

3 posted on 10/16/2007 5:58:03 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: BIGLOOK; Norman Bates; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA

If Niki Tsongas loses tonight, Kerry’s time may REALLY be coming.


4 posted on 10/16/2007 5:59:04 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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5 posted on 10/16/2007 5:59:25 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Clintonfatigued

If Kerry had a dollar for every time he said he was in Viet Nam...wait. He does.


6 posted on 10/16/2007 6:00:20 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Not to get off topic, but have any results come in yet?


7 posted on 10/16/2007 6:01:47 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“. . . His party already has embraced his (Kerry’s) position on Iraq.”

Which one of his positions on Iraq?


8 posted on 10/16/2007 6:01:52 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: digger48; Clintonfatigued; darkangel82

The Clod Squad

9 posted on 10/16/2007 6:02:10 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: ChocChipCookie
He cam tantalizingly close to winning. ROFLMAO

Later in the article she writes, that JF'ingKerry "imploded spectacularly." How can one be "tantalizingly close to winning" but "implode spectacularly"? I am not smart enough to figure that one out. Here is the qoute I am referring to: "Gore could do nothing right. He ignord his loyalists, got bloated and sweaty, embraced the unruly anti-war left and threw his support behind their 2004 presidential candidate, who then imploded spectacularly."
10 posted on 10/16/2007 6:03:04 PM PDT by bajabaja
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Then, after a laudable effort to help elect Democratic candidates in 2006 — the kind of effort Gore didn’t undertake after his loss in 2000 — came one botched joke about U.S. troops serving in Iraq.”

And the “botched joke” provided fodder for this FR parody thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1730960/posts


11 posted on 10/16/2007 6:04:43 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think not.

Lurch lost cause Lurch is creepy.


12 posted on 10/16/2007 6:05:03 PM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to the murdering of your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: bajabaja
Standard narrative in political journalism, I’m afraid.
13 posted on 10/16/2007 6:05:04 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh, for Pete’s sake - absurd.
Kerry??!? LOL


14 posted on 10/16/2007 6:06:27 PM PDT by 4Liberty (U.S. tax laws are enforced, Immigration laws aren’t = global tax)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I hope we really don't have to endure the kerry ordeal again...so I'll start by dredging up some memorables:


15 posted on 10/16/2007 6:07:24 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit ("A liberal feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

16 posted on 10/16/2007 6:07:36 PM PDT by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
John Kerry's time is coming — again

The pompous gaze into the mirror and see something wonderful;  the wise break the mirror.

17 posted on 10/16/2007 6:10:21 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
An endorsement by John Kerry? The kiss of death?

I hope he endorses Hillery , and whoever else might be ahead in the Demop polls.

Kiss of death.

18 posted on 10/16/2007 6:11:46 PM PDT by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Whither John F. Kerry?”

The left recognizes him as the wuss the rest of us recognized in 2004. And, a wuss is sure not going to endorse anyone but the Antichrist. If Hillary didn’t castrate him for that, Theresa would.

19 posted on 10/16/2007 6:11:54 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

20 posted on 10/16/2007 6:13:47 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("democrat" -- 'one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses " - Joseph J. Ellis)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

To me, Jon Carry rhymes with fairy.

What a lying sissy boy. Shot in the butt by a rice grain from his own grenade.

Please somebody, show me Jon Francois in the blue paper bunny suit again.

A great Dhim o rat administration, Jon Carry, Howard the Screamer Dean, Michael “Tank Helmet” Dukakis, Al, big fat loser Bore, Dennis “Shortstop” Kookyspinich, Mondale, and Paul Not So Wellstone.

What a bunch of weirdo losers. What a group of dangerous fruitcakes. Can you make these people up?


21 posted on 10/16/2007 6:15:51 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“His party already has embraced his position on Iraq.”

The democrats actually did vote for the war before they voted against it.


22 posted on 10/16/2007 6:16:50 PM PDT by faq
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Maybe not worth a Nobel Prize, but certainly worth a little respect.

Ha. Ha. Ha.

23 posted on 10/16/2007 6:19:48 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

24 posted on 10/16/2007 6:23:14 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts...)
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To: garyhope

Its like they’re cartoons. Anyone see Mundale in those Junior Soprano glasses he’s sportling lately ?


25 posted on 10/16/2007 6:23:15 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: ChocChipCookie
He came tantalizingly close to winning.

ROFLMAO

Had it not been for gay marriage on the Ohio ballot, and all the Amish coming out to vote against it (they'd really rather not usually participate in partisan politics) we might be dealing with the re-election campaign of President Kerry right now.

26 posted on 10/16/2007 6:26:28 PM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And Kerry projects something else the Democratic nominee may need, whoever he or she GACK! may be: masculinity. GUFFAW! Of course, it is an effete giggle!, wet-suited chortle masculinity snort! compared to Bush’s frat-boy, towel-snapping version.

Note to Kerry:

Bush will not win the next election. Count on it.

27 posted on 10/16/2007 6:27:40 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hmmmm...someone just might have a swiftboatin’ comin’ to him again.


28 posted on 10/16/2007 6:31:34 PM PDT by Baladas
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
... that candidate will get access to a 3-million-name e-mail list ...

Spam spam spam spam...

29 posted on 10/16/2007 6:33:06 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (What did Rather know and when did he know it?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Al Gore campaign manager Donna Brazile says that in the early-state contests, “most of the voters would be thrilled to know who Kerry would back and why.”

LOL... Which candidate is in the poorest health with the richest wife?

That's John F'n Kerry's hunting territory.

30 posted on 10/16/2007 6:34:53 PM PDT by RJL
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To: Norman Bates

Just checked AP Breaking news, Boston Globe and Boston Herald, AP Washington...No results yet re Tsongas vs Ogonowski


31 posted on 10/16/2007 6:37:51 PM PDT by billmor (All the news that's fit to Type)
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To: Recovering Hermit

Thanks, such a difference.

I remember watching Bush land on that aircraft carrier and the response he got from the real guys fighting the real war. They loved him. They respected him. And he them.

I was so proud. I confess, I got a little misty eyed.

It was a real guy meeting with real men doing a real job, not just talking or having a committee meeting, “demonstrating”, “protesting” or having a “dialog”, etc. and all the other leftist, defeatist bravo sierra that accomplishes exactly zero. (Except to help the enemy that wants us all dead)


32 posted on 10/16/2007 6:42:26 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: Recovering Hermit




I was always fond of these.



33 posted on 10/16/2007 6:47:26 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Delaware Sen. Joe Biden recently sang Kerry’s praises during the Senate floor debate over Biden’s proposed “soft partition” of Iraq: “I wish to tell him how grateful I am for his joining in this amendment ... because an awful lot of people around the world look to my colleague for his insights into what we do about the most critical issue facing American foreign policy today.”

Oh yeah Joe? WHO?

..... And Kerry projects something else the Democratic nominee may need, whoever he or she may be: masculinity. Of course, it is an effete, wet-suited masculinity compared to Bush’s frat-boy, towel-snapping version. But it’s a trait that is absent from the top of the Democratic field where, despite Barack Obama’s fondness for pickup basketball, none of the candidates is really known for being a guy.

This is some of the funniest stuff I've read in years!

34 posted on 10/16/2007 6:50:37 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I LOVE this picture of John standing in the back looking like a lost little boy...


35 posted on 10/16/2007 7:15:36 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

36 posted on 10/16/2007 7:16:13 PM PDT by traditional1 (GO TRIBE !)
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To: BIGLOOK

John throws like a girlie...


37 posted on 10/16/2007 7:18:24 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Marysecretary

True.....but his batting average in the Senate is .040.


38 posted on 10/16/2007 7:25:59 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Niki Tsongas.....is she challanging kerry for his Senate seat?


39 posted on 10/16/2007 7:33:01 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One thing you can always depend on with hard core leftists - they never let go of a good lie . . . . . . . . and John has told a boatload of them. Actually, a SWIFTboatload of them.

Still waiting for him to sign his SF 180. Not holding my breath that he ever will.


40 posted on 10/16/2007 7:54:51 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: All; BIGLOOK

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No Joke.

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JOHN KERRY =

Pictures of a re-education (SLAVE LABOR) Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts

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..”JOURNEY from the FALL”.. MoviePremieres = Fall of Saigon CLARITY..

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1806248/posts

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41 posted on 10/16/2007 10:08:47 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; All




"I'm on your side!"



Caption at will!

42 posted on 10/16/2007 10:24:06 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: ChocChipCookie

“He came tantalizingly close to winning.”

He was closer to losing in a landslide then he was to winning.


43 posted on 10/16/2007 11:48:28 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz
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To: BIGLOOK

No. But if Niki Tsongas had lost, it would have proven that Republicans can win in MA. Also, Kerry has high negative ratings.


44 posted on 10/17/2007 6:16:40 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

betcha he don’t salute this time


45 posted on 10/17/2007 6:46:44 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: garyhope

What a bunch of weirdo losers. What a group of dangerous fruitcakes. Can you make these people up?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I will tell you what you can’t make up, you could never make up a character like BJ Clinton and imagine his being elected as President TWICE! After that I figure most anything can happen.I estimate that less than ten percent of the voting population can give you anything approaching a rough sketch of how this nation came into being, what kind of government we are supposed to have, what the constitution authorizes the government to do, I could go on and on but what is the use.


46 posted on 10/17/2007 1:16:27 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anybody still believe this is a free country?)
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To: Recovering Hermit

Good times. Good times. :)


47 posted on 10/17/2007 1:18:48 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"He is his party’s most recent presidential nominee. He came tantalizingly close to winning...'

He got a butt whooping by almost 4 million more votes! That ain't close! That's hog tied and beaten like a red headed stepchild.

48 posted on 10/17/2007 1:23:24 PM PDT by avacado (Republicans Destroyed Democrats' Most Cherished Institution: SLAVERY!)
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To: RipSawyer

Unfortunately you’re right.


49 posted on 10/17/2007 1:42:53 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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